THE BEE: OMAHA, THURSDAY, JUNE 21, 1917.
Men Higher Up Are Called To Stand In Maloney Investigation
Lawyers Hint at
Perjury in Police.
Probe by Council
CflBUnod From Pf On?.)
tionable character of the Melson
place on South Nineteenth street, as
testified to by Ungcr Tuesday after
noon. He also denied giving any irregu
lar orders to Sutton and Linger at
the Owl club, but admitted that on
one occasion he did meet these de
tectives at the club and told them that
a saloon man had con, plained of per
secution by the morals squad and
suggested that they should not dis
turb women if they were merely eat
ing in a restaurant annex of the sa
loon if they wore habilaments ap
proved by polite society.
The inside workings of Kugel's spe
cial investigators were brought out
in detail by Attorney Baker, who
questioned one item of $237 which
Kugel explained was for cigars, beer
and other expenses. The superintend
ent of police explained that his spe
cial men took companions with them
to visit places as regular patrons and
thus obtain evidence upon which the
morals squad later worked,
Sutton Traveled "Fast."
Kugel could not tell Attorney Ba
ker whether 514-16 South Nineteenth
street had been raided. Officer lin
ger testified Sutton took him there
ostensibly lor investigation, put
left Sutton when he observed certain
local amenities being indulged in by
button, us detective leader.
Mrs. Fred Allen of 2510 Hickory
street testified she frequented the
Melson place and knew of its char
acter and inadvertently, through
process of fine-tooth combing by At
tornev Baker, admitted that her vis
its to this house were not anoroved
by her husband when he learned of
them.
Mrs. Allen testified that during tel
ephone conversations with Mrs. Mar
caret Rohr of Florence the latter re
lated that Mrs. Melson said she was
being urged to "stick to her Sutton
story-' by "Spike," adding that she
was to receive 5200 for her testimony.
and in one instance specified that
the amount was to be $100. The ap
pearance of Mrs. Allen was to dis-
crenit tne testimony or jvirs. unr,
who testified she had no recollection
of having mentioned to anybody any
reference to a money consideration
for Mrs. Melson a testimony.
Mrs. Bird Leaves Town.
Charles Bird, negro, husband of Jo
sephine Bird, was the first witness
called at this morning's session of
the Malonev hearing.
Attorney Elmer Thomas questioned
the witness regarding the departure
of Mrs. Bird to Kansas City last Sun
day.
It is very evident that Mrs. Bird
left Omaha to avoid being called as
a witness in this case, stated Mr.
Thomas.
Bird said: "My wife and I had a
quarrel last Sunday and she went to
Kansas City, she may stay there for
ever or she may atay a day."
Thomas offered in evidence
charges hied last December by Jo
sephuie Bird against the city detec
tive department, charging payment
of money. The mayor explained that
when the charges were hied by the
Bird woman the council offered to
have a hearing, but the complainants
failed to appear. Attorney Thomas
added that be had Mrs. Bird sum
moned as a witness, but she disap
peared.
i Kugel Contradict XJnger,
Commissioner Kugel recalled by
Attorney Thomas: "You recall that
Officer Unger said he met vou in
Fete Loch's saloon in June, 1916, and
had lunch there with you. Is that
a fact?"
"Never met Unger at Loch's place."
' ua unger ever complain to you
regarding Mrs. Melson s placer
"He did not"
"Did he ever speak to you of Sut
ton and Mrs. Phelps having been at
tne Meison placer '
"He never spoke of that to me."
The superintendent of notice en
tered a direct denial of Unger's testi
mony regarding having met his boss
at Fete Loch's place. Kugel denied
any knowledge of the Melson place
having been brought to his notice as
a disorderly house. Attorney Thomas
did not question Kugel regarding Un
ger's testimony on the Owl club or
Kugel's reference of Unger to Johnny
i-yncn.
Money for Testimony,
Mrs. Fred Allen. 2510 Hickorv
street, related a telephone conversa
tion with Mrs, Margaret Kohr over
telephone.
"Mrs. Rohr told me she heard Mrs.
Margaret Melson was urged to tes
tify by "Spike" and that she would
receive $200 for her testimony and
she said Spike told her to stick to
her button story. Once she said it
wat flUu."
Different on Tuesday.
On Tuesday Mrs. Rohr testified sh
had no recollectiot. of having sooken
to anybody regarding Mrs. Melson's
expectations ot receiving money for
her testimony in this 1 aring. Mrs.
Rohr said Mrs. Melson spoke of a new
dress, but not ot any money, and she
could not even connect the dress with
the testimony. "Stike," referred to
by Mrs. Allen, has been referred to
at the hearing as the husband of Mrs.
Melson, the woman wh- testified re
garding the alleged ii.discretions at
the Melson home, 516 South Nine
teenth street. i
Attorney Baker asked Mrs. Allen:
"Were you ever at Mrs. Melson's
place at 516 bouth Nineteenth street?"
"Yes."
"Day or night?" -
"Both."
"Who were you with?"
Will Not Reveal Companions.
"I refuse to say. I will not incrimi
nate myself or anybody else."
"Lady or gentleman?"
"I haven't said. 1 am not saying."
''Were you there with Maloney;"
fNo."
"Drink any beer there?"
"I did."
"Who paid for it?"
"Persons who were there."
"Men or women?"
"I will not tell."
"See Paul Sutton there?"
"No. sir."
."Did yon know the place was an ass
ignation house?"
"1 did."
"Why did you go there?"
"I am not stating."
"Who is your husband?" "
"A plumber,"
"Lives with you?"
"He dois."
"Did he know you were at the Mel
son placer"
"I don't care to answer that ques
tion." "Did you tell your husband?"
"I did not."
"Did he find out?"
"He did."
"You refuse to state why you went
to the Melson house?"
"I refuse."
Sorry She Was in It.
"Just what did Mrs. Kohr say to
you over the telephone?"
"She said Mrs. Melson was crying
and that hpike told tier to stick to it
and she would get $200 and again she
said it was $100, and she was sorry
she was in it."
"From whom did you understand
the money was to he paid, when you
spoke to Mrs. Rohr?"
she said the money was to come
from Steve Maloney."
"You did not remember Malonev's
name when Attorney Thomas ques
tioned you. Why didn't you?"
"Didn't remember it."
"Arc you interested in this case?"
"I am not."
Just Hung Around.
"And yet you have hung around
here four days."
"Others are doing the same thing."
"Who was the man or men you
went with to 516 South Nineteenth
street?"
"I refuse to answer."
"Mr. Mayor," said Baker, "f want
to discredit this witness and show
that she wants to injure Steve Ma
loney by giving hear-say evidence
through four persons."
Attorney Thomas: "Why insist upon
anything that would not nave a bear
ing on tins case and injure persons
not parties to this case,
No Confidence in Witness.
Attorney er: "1 refuse o have
Maloney assassinated in this manner.
This woman should not be allowed to
come behind Maloney with a dagger
unless we know from whence this
dagger comes. We should know the
Llsity of this woman's position. I
have no confidence in this witness
for a minute. She admits having been
at the Melson place, but will not say
with whom she went."
Mayor Dahlman "I am satisfied
this woman went to this assignation
house with men. but I don't believe
it would be fair to drag in these out
side parties."
Baker resumed : W ere narties with
whom you went to 516 South Nine
teenth street ma ':d or single?"
I did not see the marriaee certi
ficates."
Went In Taxi.
"Did you go to the Melson Dlace
alone or with companions? On foot
or in a hack?"
"Not in a hack; it was a taxi." -"Where
did you take the taxi?"
"Don't remember."
"How long have you known the
person you went with?"
I knew huh eight or nine years.
"Then it was a him, was it?"
"Yes."
"Was he a friend f he family?"
"No."
"Just a friend of one member of
your family?
Yes, sir.
"You are sure that Mrs. Rohr men
tioned Maloney a name when she
spoke of the money to be paid Mrs.
Melson, are you?"
i am sure.
"How much do vou exnect to att
for testifying here?'
Am not looking for anything.
"Do you expect any protection?"
"I do not."
Knew Mrs. McCunt.
Attorney Thomas:
"Do you know Mrs. McCune. or
Mamie Jones, who has been men
tioned in this case?"
"I do."
"Do you know if Mrs. McCune was
staying at Melsons' house?"
Yes; when she was getting a di
vorce.
You said Mrs. Rohr snerificd Hif.
fercnt sums of money in different con
versation, did she?"
"Yes, sir, she did."
Sutton Objects to Kimonss.
Paul Sutton, recalled hv Attnrnrv
Thomas:
"State details of Kueel meeting? vou'
and Unger at Owl club."
The caotain told us Kueel would
be at the Owl club. Unger and I
went. Kugel asked us if we were
persecuting the Scsto place and if
we were raiding every night. I told
Kugel we found women there in ki-
monaa and some were prostitutes. I
told Sesto to have the women in his
resturant dress decently.
Sutton Not at Melson Place.
That was the onlv time von smv
Kugel at the Owl club?"
'Not sure. I may have seen him
at a dance."
"Anything said here vou would like
to explain now?"
"Could have explained at the time."
"State whether you and L'nger were
ever at Melson place together."
"I was never at 514 or 516 South
Nineteenth street with Unger or any
body else."
Could Not Smoke Cigars.
"Did you ever see the Davis woman
who testified?"
"Arrested her once."
"Did she ever give you any money
at any time?"
"She, nor any oilier woman, or
man, Rave me money.
"Did Honeywell give or offer you
any money at any time?
"He did not, but he left twenty-five
cheap cigars for Cunningham and my
self. I smoked one cigar and Cunning
ham smoked one and gave the rest
away."
"Did you ::now Honeywell?"
"Yes. I and Officer Anderson were
after him for impersonating an offi
cer." Attorney Baker:. "What did the
Davis woman say to you?"
"Called me a degenerate."
"And you denied it?"
"I certainly did."
Attorney Rine: "Did you ever re
ceive any money while officer of police
force from any man or woman, for
orotection?" ,
"I have not
"Do you know of any police officer
naving received money.'
"No."
Kugel Refutes Unger'a Story.
Attorney Rine recalled Mr. Kugel.
"Did you ever direct Officer
Unger to Johnny Lynch?"
"I did not."
"Did you ever give orders regard
ing prostitutes being in any certain
places, such as restaurants?"
"I asked you for an opinion and
you said they had a right to live and
eat.
Attorney Baker:
"Did you ever say these women
could collect at any place with
mothcrhubbards on?"
"Let me tell you about the Scsto
place. Scsto came to me and com
plained that the morJs squad was
bothering women when they were
only eating in hist place, and I said
if they wore proper clothes they need j
not uisturo tnem wnen only eating.
He Knows Lynch.
"Do you know Johnny Lynch?"
"Oh, yes, I know him."
"Did you ever give any directions
from the Owl club?"
"One day I reported to the station.
I wanted to see Sutton and Unger,
and in the evening I telephoned the
station I was at the Owl club and met
them on the dance floor and told
them. Sesto complained against the
morals squad."
"But you had been told by Sutton
that these women had been improp
erly clad, weren't you?"
"I don't know how they were clad."
What is Disorderly House.
"Did you know what constituted a
disorderly house?"
1 have my own opinion, but I did
not know legally until I got an opin
ion from Assistant City Attorney Te
I'oel. A placj could be a disorderly
house without having lewd women
there."
"You askeu' Te Toel as a matter of
protection to yourself?"
"For myself and the officers. Some
times they were not sure if a place
was disorderly."
"Did you tell the chief what Te
Poel said about a disorderly house?"
"1 did not. I supposed he knew."
"You did not know of disorderly
houses that were. not pulled. Did you
know anything about 514 or 516
south Nineteenth?"
"No. I only know what the rec
ords show."
"Will you bring in the records?"
Brings in Records.
Mr. Kugel went to his office and
obtained the reports, which he handed
to Attorney Baker, with the remark
that he might find 514 or 516 South
Nineteenth street in the reports.
Baker resumed examination of
Kugel:
"You have a woman in your secret
service employ, have you?
"Yes, a Mrs. Cox."
"How many men?"
"Two."
"Who are they?"
"I ain't going to tell you who these
men are, because that has nothing to
do with charges against Maloney. I
have one man working right now and
the chief may have some."
Says Ask the Chief.
"If I would ask you to put on a
man to do detective work, would vou
do it?"
"1 might put hiin on myself."
"Give me the names of the special
investigators whose services have
terminated."
"I refuse to. You can ask the chief.
I will not."
"I insist that you tell me."
"It has nothing to do with this
case.
"I think the public is entitled to
this information. Let us not ide too
much. Let us uncover a little."
Kugel's Expense Account.
"Do you know how much money
you have drawn from the treasury for
these special services?
"1 could not without looking up ihc
checks."
"You drew $2.17 in May. 1917. Who
and what was that for?"
"I have told you that sometimes
my investigator would take a friend
or two with him."
"What salary did you pay these spe
cial investigators?"
"They sent bills for what they
thought their services were worth."
"Have you the details of their
bills?"
"I usually destroyed those papers
so nobody would know who those
men were."
Money for Beer.
"What was $237 in May for?"
"Cigars and beer and expenses."
"And you spent the taxpayers'
money and now you cannot explain
how the money was spent."
Attorney Thomas contended that
Mr. Baker was going beyond the
range of this investigation of Steve
Maloney.
Baker resumed:
"And these persons who spent the
money were the judges of how much
should be spent and how were they?"
Objection by Thomas sustained.
"I find amiroximatelv $2,000 spent
in the manner you have stated. Can
you state to whom and for what man
ner money was spent?"
"I can by the checks."
"What work was done for this
money?"
"I think the records will show."
Sutton's Reports.
"Are these reports signed by any
body?
"No. I knew who was doing the
work when they came in.
"Who's reports are these?"
"Those are Paul Sutton's."
"This report refers to house at 420
south thirteenth street. What was
done with this report?
"These reports were given to the
chief and the morals squad ordered
to investigate. sometimes it might
take six months to get a place."
"Here is a report of all assignation
houses. Did it include South Nine
teenth street?"
"I do not know."
"Were your morals squad men
ever pulled?"
"Yes. One night Paul Sutton and
two companions were taken."
"Was- Mr. Marshall one of your
secret service men?"
Objection sustained.
Mrs. Melson Still 111.
Attorney Thomas announced Mrs.
Margaret Melson still is ill. "It is . it
our desire not to place Elsie Phelps
on the stand until Mrs. Melson has
concluded her testimony, because wc
contend Mrs. Melson does not know
Mrs, Phelps," said Mr. Thomas.
"We have the rieht ,o show that
Mrs. Melson never saw Mrs. Phelps,"
added Thomas.
Attorney Baker pledged that Mrs.
Melson will not appear until alter
Mrs. Phelps has testified, if that is
agreeable.
Mr. Thomas insisted that Mrs. Mel
son must return and he further in
sisted that she shall return before
he calls Elsie Phelps.
Use Chadron Testimony.
Commissioner Butler: "We are try
ing Captain Maloney, and why not
take the transcript of the Chadron
case for any further evidence. We
cannot stay here alt ' ear. .
Butler added: "It is evident the
police department is disorganized. If
the absent witnesses can not be
brought in, I think we should con
clude this hearing and proceed with
the general police investigation after
we have considered the testimony
that has Leen offered in the Maloney
case. I am goinf, to recommend to
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Wants Women's Testimony.
Attorney Baker: "I would prefer that
tisie neips should go on stan here,
or am willing to accept the Chadron
transcript, but it must be one or
the other."
"It is a matter of identification that
I am afte I want Mrs. Melson to
point Mrs. Phelps out in .:.is room if
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Attorney Rine: "I think we should
take a recess until we can get Mrs.
Melson here."
Butler: "And suppose she should
leave the city?"
Rine: "And then the council could
determine just how much her evi
dence is worth."
Baker: "Let Mrs. Phelps take the
stand and dispose of that phase of the
case. Ninty-nine per cent of the testi
mony of this case has nothing to do
with charges against Captain Maloney.
We are chasing rainbows."
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raiser on the river bottoms, was first
witness called at afternoon session of
the Maloney hearing before the city
council.
Questioned by Attorney Thomas,
through a boy interpreter, he said in
substance:
"I am associated with Henrv Pol
lock and others in a garbage hauling
company, we have a district between
Farnam and Harney streets, from
Ninth to Twenty-sixth streets. George
Brown told me if I did not join the
company I could not have any gar
bage. I was told 1 could put some
money into the company and share
in tne profits ot the sales of hogs.
They told me Steve Maloney. Henry
KPollock and ethers were in the com
pany.
Maloney Gets Pei Cent
"Do you know whether. Steve Ma
loney is interested in the company?"
"They told me that Steve Maloney
l.aned Henry Pollock $1,500 and that
Maloney would get $8 out of every
$1110 when hogs were sold."
"What do you know of what Ma
loney did in connection with this
company?"
"I don't know."
Henry Pollock called. Attorney
Baker questioned the witness:
"Are you interested in a hog
ranch?"
"I am."
"Who with?"
"George Barna, Frank Veraby and
Joe Suhuya."
"Steve Maloney interested in your
hog ranch?"
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