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TIIE (ttLUIA SUNDAY BEE: MAY 7, 1911. NO MAN SHOULD WORK OYER 65 So Sayi John C. Stubbs, Vice Presi dent of the Harriman Lines. WOELD BELONGS TO YOUNO MEN o Prartlrr What He PrMekn r Retlrlaa- Vnlsntartlr -Ra-flecttewa on t.lfe'a Artlrltlra. TRAFFIC MANAGER OF HAHRLMAN RAILROAD SYSTEM. 5fc "What In the proper tlma for a man to retire from bunlnean?" Thia waa tho queatlon propounded by the New York Tlmea to John C. Stubba. vlca president and director of traffic of the l,OW mile which comprlnes the Harriman ay it em. Mr. Btubba hag created widespread dlscuaalon all over the United Sttatea by the announcement made a day or two ago, that when he attalna the ane of 65 years. In May of next year, he propones to lay aid the carea of business life and devote his remaining' years to peaceful recreation on hi country estate and to foreign travel. Moreover, Mr. Btubba punctuates this declaration by atatlnf aa his fixed belief that every man who attains the age of 66 should be retired, whether he ao desire or not. In order to make room for younger men. Mr. Stubba, however, quail fled this declaration in his conversation with the Times representative today, by stating that In fixing this age limit he had done ao on the theory that every man hon orably retired at 66 should receive a pension from his former employers. "Of course," said Stubba, "when I ex pressed the opinion that no man should work after he Is 66 years old, I had not the slightest Intentions of advocating any system which would deprive men who had attained that are of their livelihood and leaving them dependent upon others for atupport. "On many of the big railroads a pension system haa been introduced which makes retirement compulsory at the age of 70. I believe an employe should have the op tion of retiring honorably at 66 and I have advocated making that the age limit In the army they fix the age of retirement at 63, and I do not know but that 60 would be even better than that Stirred lp Treabln. "It seems to me," continued Mr. Btubbs, "that when I made this casual observa tion as to the age at which a man should cease to engage In business I unwittingly stirred up a lot of trouble for myself. I am deluged with letters, offers to write magazine articles and not a few protests. "One of my correspondents writes that if employers were to discharge their men upon attaining the age of CO years It would work a very grievous Injury and In many cases untold hardship. Quite true, although I fixed the age aa 65 and not 60. "Apparently there has been some mis understanding as to what I actually meant. Inasmuch as I have no time to write maga alne articles, perhaps It would be Just as well to make myself clear on the subject through the-columns of the New 1 York Times." Mr. Btubba settled himself back In his chair. This man, the associate and fellow worker of such railroads giants as Collls P. Huntington and Edward II. Harriman, has spent almost fifty of his sixty-four years of life In the -dally grind of the rail road business. But he does not look It. He Is a rather alight ' man of medium height, with JOHN C. STUBBS. smooth-shaved face, gray hair and clear, penetrating gray-blue eyes. lie Is a man of charming personality and of artistlo temperament. His office, overlooking one of the busiest comers of Chicago, Is a veritable picture gallery In Its way. On its walls hsng the portraits of every railroad man of prominence In the United Btates during the last half century, those of Messrs. Huntington and Harriman having the place of honor. "While I have expressed the opinion, and still hold to the belief that no man should be allowed to work after he la 66 years old," said Mr. Btubbs, "my expressions and utterances on the subject must be regarded as applying more particularly to my chosen profession. The range of my experience must be considered. "In my observations on this subject, which seem to have attracted undue at tention, I had more especially In mind railroad workers and the employes of such Industrial concerns as have adopted a pen sion system for the benefit of the men who have worked loyally and faithfully. There waa also present In my mind the fact, that In practically all cases In which a pension system has been evolved, the retiring age Is fixed at 70 years, at which age retirement becofes peremptory. Proper Ace for Retirement, "After studying the question In all Its phases, I have come to the conclusion that at 65 years the officer or employe should be permitted to retire and receive his pen sion, or on the other hand that the com pany or Its employers should retire him without discrediting him, at that age. In order .to make room for younger men. "It was not In my mind, however, to suggest, or even hint, that all employers should dispense with employes when the latter reach the age of sixty-five without any provision for the future. If ruch a policy were pursued great hardships would be worked. They should be honorably re tired with a pension sufficient to provide for all reasonable needs. Of course it Is perfectly true that all men may not cease their activities at the age of sixty-five. Nevertheless, It Is my judgment that they ought to and should be able to do it, and If so the world would move much faster toward the millennium. ' . ,v"Tak Mt,. Hanmfcn,j4fo. Instance. I do not think he would have retired at sixty-five by any possible chance. "He was one of those peculiar men who never could retire, who have got to work. and who If they could not work would die anyway. Nevertheless, Mr. Harriman did not die from worrying over his vast busi ness interests. "Mr. Ilsrriman never worried. He be lieved In himself aa much as did Napo leon, lie had a right to believe In him self. In my judgment, for he did things and big things at that. Harriman lived as long as could reasonably be expected. considering the manner In which he worked. 'I owe a great deal to my association with Collls P. Huntington and E. H. Har riman," said Mr. Stubbs, remlnlscently. "What wonderful workers were they! Huntington always was In his office be fore any of his employes simply a tire less worker. Harriman too. ThlnUlna- in Red. Harriman used to work all day and think all night. That was what killed him. He used to think In bed. One of his most daring schemes he told me was thought out after he went home one night. "The Erie railroad was In dlstresa. If It went Into the hands of a receiver It meant that the stock market would be affected disastrously and that the Harri man securities would necessarily suffer. "All that night he thought It over, until 6 o'clock in the morning, when he had his plan matured. He rose at 7 o'clock and gave Instructions over the telephone. "When the bank was open -t 10 o'clock Harriman waa there with the necessary securities and paid $5,000,000 for the notes and securities. It was a. daring thing to do, but he had planned In the night how he would bring that great property through the crisis, and he knew that he could not fall. It can readily be understood that It would be useless to talk to such a man about retiring at sixty-five. "Again some of the most able men this country has produced have died long be fore attaining the age of 65. Jay Gould died at 66, If I remember correctly. Thomas A. Bcott died at 66 and Devereaux of the Lake Shore system, a very promising man. died at 66 or along about those years. "Retiring at 65 from the particular pur suit which has engaged his aotlvltlea of a man all through his working career, does not. In my judgment,, mean Idleness for the remainder of his days. It suggests leisure, opportunity to pursue an avoca tion, to round out one who has been warped somewhat by following one Idea to the exclusion of all other considerations of Inestimable value to the man himself. aa well as to his fellows. , "I am not going to stagnate simply be cause I am going to relinquish the relna of office in the Harriman system.All my life I have been working for the road that was the deaieat ambition of my life. ' I told Mr. Harriman once that I be lieved I thought a good deal more of It than he did, and I meant it I am not going to stagnate. World Wsiti Yoingrr Men. "The world Is full of thing I. want to know. I am simply going to step aside because the world wants younger men. and the world belongs to young men. "The tendency of the times Is to crowd out the older men and give the young man a chance. Take our universities, for In stance. We find that when a great genius like Charles W. EJiot tesigns, his place Is filled by a very much younger man; the trustees do not seek a man of approxi mately the same age as the retiring prest dent This is true of all educational In Letters from, a Hood River -Apple Grower HOOD RIVER, Ore., April 23. Dear Jim: Bo you 'want to know how It happened that I heeded the now common cry, "Back to . the farm," and left the desk where I had been tied for the last ten years. You are especially Interested in knowing If all the stories about apple growing In Oregon are true, and whether or not the literature sent out by the various commercial clubs, real estate firms and railroads Is too highly ' colored. You fear that "far oft fields are green" and want actual facts concerning the apple business from one who has noth ing to gain by exaggeration. Well, here Is my story, and you can rest assured every statement I make Is true. Too close confinement In the office was telling on me, and the doctor advised me to get Into the open. Farm life doea not appeal to many women, as the work Is hard and long and the pleasures and comforts of the city are lacking, but Gertrude read ily agreed to make the sacrifice for my sake, providing we bought- an apple orchard. That much decided upon, we began look ing for a suitable location. Everywhere .this state, and In Washington, we were confronted with advertisements telling of apple lands. "Just aa good as Hood River" or "only blank miles from Hood River" or "In Hood River's sister valley," and - we asked: Where Is this Hood River val ley, which Is the standard of excellence in apple growing and by which all other ap ple districts are measured, and what Is giving this valley the high distinction It now enjoys T So one Sunday we dressed the kiddles In their best and took the east-bound Oregon Railroad and Navigation train out of Port land and after a run of two hours along the south bank of the Columbia river reached th little town of 'Hood River. There waa nothing extraordinary about the burg, which varioua advertisements said had a population of 6.000, but Which the census man put rtown at nearly S 000. Here we aaw Indians In their gaily colored blan kets wheeling their papooses In up-to-date go-carts. It was berry picking time and the Indiana were helping harvest the crop, a they do every year. There were the usual country hotels no better and no worse than one meets with in every wes tern town two main business streets where all lines of business were represented, and some beautiful new buildings In course of erection, notab'y the one now occupied by the First National bank, a very reliable in stltutloo. Beyond and up the hillside were scattered houses, but where, oh. where were those famous v orchard. We were disappointed, but our real estate agent, who waa to pilot us around, assured us How to "Shed" A Bad Complexion It's foolish to attempt to cover up or hide a sallow complexion, when yoti can so easily remove the sallowness, or the complexion Itself. Rouge and the like on a brownish skin, only emphasise the de fect The better way la to apply pure mercollxed wax the same aa you would cold cream putting It on at night, remov ing it in the morning with warm water and aoap, following with a dash of cold aler. Th effect of a few applications la simply marvelous. The half-dead cuti cle la absorbed by the wax painlessly, gradually. In tiny Imperceptible particles revealing the beautiful velvety white new akin beneath. No woman need have a sallow, blotchy, pimply or freckled complexion If she'll just go to the druggist's, get some good mercollxed wax and use aa suggested. Woman's Ke.il m. Adv. the promised land hy)ust over the hill. v wo iook neart again. And right here, In passing. It may not be amiss to say a, word about the Irrepressi ble, Irrealstabfe real estate agent. No doubt he. is built along the same lines, whether under sunny southern skies, away back cast, or here on the Pacific coast, and It should not be necessary to warn you against him, yet let me say to you, beware! He will spot you the moment you get off the train, follow you to. your hotel, listen to and Interrupt any conversation you may be carrying on In the hotel lobby, and finally follow you into the dining room and seat himself at your table. He will use gentle persuasion, hold out promises or big returns and when all other arts known to this class of men fall, he will try to bulldoxe you. So, I say, beware of the man who tries to sell you apple land, not for Its real worth for growing apples, but aa a speculation; who states In his advertisements that values will double In two or three years, and assures you confidentially that yau can unload on an easterner at a handsome profit; who asserts that, if you buy a young orchard, you can grow strawberries between the trees and get Income sufficient to carry you along until your orchard comes Into bearing. To be sure there Is a grain of truth In all his representations, but only a grain, so I repeat the warning that you Investigate well before tying yourself to any real estate shark. To' return to our trip. After breakfast the auto was brought around and we started for the "land flowing with milk and honey" and I might add apples. As we were served with condensed milk for breakfast at the hotel, we concluded that "flowing with milk and honey" was only metaphorically speaking and not to be taken literally. We crossed Hood river, then cllmebd the hill to the east of the town, winding In and out until we rounded a curve that brought us to the top. Ye gods, what a view! The entire valley was spread out beneath up and it seemed like one vast orchard, with miles upon miles of trees. Away down beneath us was the river, a wild mountain stream, and over all like mighty giant sentinels standing guard, one at either end of the valley, was Mt. Hood and Mt. Adams. You remember the Bible story of the great temptation, how his satanio majesty took the Lord up Into the high mountain and showed him the kingdoms of the earth. Now, 1 don't mean to infer that the real estate agent was like unto the tempter, nor that the other character was duplica ted, but as I feasted my eyes upon that beautiful valley, the story came to my mind and I felt a great wave of tempta tion surge over me to be master over part of th's land. If only a few acies. And ever, as the auto started, did we turn for one more look upon that wondrous scene. Upon closer view, we wore now In the famous East Side district, where the old est and beat orchards are located, and we got a better Impression of what care and thought and hard work the orchardlst be stowed upon his orchard. The trees were pruned Into perfect symmetry, each like unto the other; and, a one looked down the long rows, not a tree was out of line; there was no litter of any kind strewn about, no big clods of earth, but by careful eutlvatl.n the ground was worked Into a finely pulverised dust. The Impression re ceived waa that of absolute cleanliness and tidiness. As w proceeded up the valley, our real estate friend pointed out, here a ten-acre bearing orchard, sold for S2.2S0 per acre; there a ten-acre tract, not yet In bearing, at SI. 60O per acre. Orchard after orchard was shown us. with valuta ranging from S1M up, for full bearing, and Sl.OuO and stltuttons and throughout the professions that I had the world by the tall. It Is gererally, "In the army the age of retirement Is fixed at 66; If It were 60 I think It would be an Improvement When a man gets past 60 his judgment may be more mature. but he haa lost his fight. t 'And by fight I do not mean his ability to quarrel, but to fight the battle of life with the same energy and effectiveness that he fights when he Is only 60 years old. "Life Is nothing but a battle, anyway. It Is a fight from start to finish. Men grow strong fighting. What Is It that makes a kite flyT It Is the resistance of the air currents, and It Is the obstacles a man meets and fights his way over that develop his character. "I know that there are, and always will be, men who are financially unable to retire at 66; will not .do so; and perlaps It Is better that they should not. But within the narrow range of my activities. those who for themselves and for their employers ought to be entitled to retire nt 66 many times outnumber the class to whom retirement would mean positive hardship. 'I have held for a long time that when an officer of a railroad has reached 65 years he ought to be able to retire with honor and without questioning his effi ciency." "Aro you willing to admit that a man has outlived his usefulness at 66 years? Tou wouldn't have him chloroformed ac cording to the theories alleged to have been enunciated by Dr. Osier?" asked the Interviewer. "Not chloroformed by any means,"" re plied Mr. Stubbs with a hearty laugh. "I for one desire to have a little time Jn which I can live for myself and my fam ily;, a chance to look a little more Into literature, for example yes, and perhaps little opportunity for travel, "I have traveled more miles than most travelers, perhaps, but I have never visited Europe. I have never had but two vaca tions In my life, and I may add that on both these vacations I was sick. Looking back over my life, both as a single man and as a married man, I think I can say that It has largely consisted of working, with the necessary Incidentals merely of eating and sleeping. Time to Loaf. "I am tired, and I am going to .loaf," said Mr. Stubb with & suspicion of weari ness. "I have seen only one and I know only one side of llfe-the Industrial de velopment of this country through rail roads. The world !s beautiful and I am going to try and realize and enjoy some of that beauty before I die. There Isn't anything In the world that Is not alto gether lovely. Even the so-called dark and bad spots are only nature , gone to seed. "I am sorry to leave the boys, but I am going to sit on a fence and watch the trains go by. I am going to read all about the Interstate Commerce commission." chuckled Mr. Stubbs. "Why, the life of a horse Is about twenty years, suddenly remarked the, railroad man, "and a humane man will turn the animal out after It has done fifteen years work, so that It may end Its life In peace and quietness. I am going to retire because I want to live and enjoy life. If I were to keep up the pace I have traveled for fifty years I should be dead In three years. Now I am going to live at least ten years more, and perhaps longer than that "It Is the day of the young man. When I was 60 years old they gave a banquet In my honor In, New York. I felt then different now. I think a man should re tire at sixty-five not only for his own sake, but for the sake of th Institution he represents. "His experience Is valuable, of course, but he should receive a pension 'and be called upon only for his opinion when necessary. A man's memory begins to fail him after sixty. He begins to get slow and easily tired." Mr. Stubbs, who was born at Ashland. O., on May SI. 1847. and who when a lad became a freight clerk In the office of the Panhandle road at Columbus, O., switched to the question of finance and remarked that he had enough money to quit active business. "It la money I. have saved out of my salaries; I saved money on 11.000 a year," he remarked; "probably saved more In proportion than I have saved In later years on larger salaries." Mr. Btubbs' salary aa director of traffic of the Harriman lines Is said to be not less than $:0.000 a year; It Is known that the late Paul Morton refused the position at S50,Ono a year. v "It will be a little hard to pull away from the old association," said Mr, Stubbs, In closing the Interview, "but I am tired and my wife and I are going to pay some attention to each other for the rest of our lives." New York Times. SPIRITS TIP OFF LONG SHOT over for yound orchards Just coming Into bearing. Raw land was offered at $150 to $250 per acre, according to location Inasmuch as it costs $75 to $125 per acre to clear, and It has been found much the better plan to plant some crop the first jrear after clearing, we concluded that ev.:a raw land was by no means cheap. About eight miles of a drive brought us to Booth Hill, a very long, steep hill, beyond which lay what is known as the Upper valley, but we did not Investigate this district, aa we had been sufficiently impressed, not only with the beauty of the Lower valley, but more with Its desir ability as a money maker and a home site. The auto now crossed Tucker's bridge and returned to Hood River through the West Side district; and, as we boarded the train that night for Portland, I turned to Ger trude and said: "It's Hood River or bust' and. at this wrlUng, it looks Ilk both. After that we made frequent trips to Hood river. Investigating this or that prop osition, and we soon came o know that mere w.u, much or exaggeration and mis represtnutlon In this valley. We learned thai not all the Hood River valley Is adapted for apple growing; there are frost pockets In places and in other places no depth of soil. One orchard ahown us had been twice planted, the first trees having attained a certain growth and then died for lack, of depth of soil. Another place recommended as having plenty of running water for Irrigation purposes was found to be underlaid with springs, and of course the land had no value aa apple land. For our purposes we wanted a partly bearing orchard (I had no faith in straw berries planted between trees) and to carry us along knew we must have a steady In come from an orchard. Then, too, we needed buildings, and in every case where the buildings were at all desirable or the orchard in good condition the price was almost prohibitive. There were no real es tate snaps, such as you read about. We became discouraged and were about to give up our Idea of settling In the Hood River valley, when we were told that prices In the upper valley were not as high and the land Juaf as rich and productive. The real estate agents never so much as mentioned this upper valley and even Hood river people generally had no good word to say of it, but we decided to Investigate for ourselves, and one Sunday found us again in Hood river ready to take the ! train to Parkdkle, the terminus of the rail road in the upper valley. As we afterward learned, this road Is known In railroad circles as th Mount Hood railway, but Is commonly called "The Polygamy Central." being owned and con trolled by the Mormona. It Is a little go-as-you-please road, making atopa at almost every crooalng. The conductor is a genial good fellow, liked by ail, and generally haa the passengers helping him load ana unload his freight Occasionally the train has to stop out In the country to let the engine lay In a supply of wood or get up steam or to give the conductor a chance to chase stock off the track, but sooner or later It reaches a little lumber camp owned by the same interests. Here a couple of hours is spent In shunting cars, while the passengers amuse themselves as best they can. Somt ladies bring along their lunches and fancy work and have a regular picnic, others, less philosophic, cuss and fume at the long wait In a hot lumber yard. But ail things have an end and Parkdale la at last reached. Many stories are told of this railroad uncomplimentary to IU management It la said that a man wanted a hair cut and a shave and there came a time when he could wait no longer. There being no barber shop out in the country Itm was forced to go to Hood River, arriving there after the shops had closed at night .The following morning the train left before the shopa had opened and he waa forced to stay over a full day. His hair cut and shave cost him just $6.80. One day a gentleman inquired of the agent when the train would be In, and the agent replied: "Oh, it won't be long now. Here comes the conductor's dog." At another time the train pulled out from Parkdale Just as a gentleman drove up. He was anxious to be In Hood River that night, so started to walk, and four miles down the track he overtook the train. ' Such was the line over which we trav eled one Sunday to Parkdale. A drive of three miles, after our railroad trip, brought us to th Glacier View Orchard and one look decided us. This ' was our future home. In my next letter I will tell you more of the country and how Hood River has been able to grow the finest apples in the world. A. B. Nan Loyd, of New York, who admits she Is an actress. Just loves to go to the den tistthat Is, she does now; but It was not her state of mind yesterday when Dr. Simons, after making preliminary exam ination, said, "The Job will cost you just $40." "Let 'er go, professor," said Miss Loyd despondently, as she wondered just where the rent was to come from. The dentist seized upon a monstrous pair of tweezers and his patient shuddered with apprehen sion, but before he could apply them the Instrument dropped out of his hand. "Wait," he said, "I must talk to the spirits," and turning his back upon her and leaving her speechless because of the number of towels, wedges and assorted Im plements of his art which he had left in her mouth he disappeared Into a side room. It was then that Miss Loyd remembered that the friend who had recommended the dentist to her had explained that he was a spiritualist and would leave his work the Instant he fancied he heard a call from the departed. It waa 'an hour before he came back, and without looking at his helpless patient he began to put on his hat and coat. ( In desperation Miss Lloyd made herself heard. "Where are you going?" she said. Dr. Simons looked around at her. "I have been talking to the spirits. I always leave everything to talk to the spirits. They don't like It If you keep them wait ing. They have Just told nje to play a horse named Dell In the second race at Jacksonville. I simply have to do what the spirits tell me. You sit perfectly still until I come back and I will fix you up right away." "Do the spirits ever lose?" she asked. "Hush," said the doctor, sternly. "Of course they never lose." "Well, then," said Miss Lloyd, "I don't believe In gambling, but this looks like a sure thing. Put down five for me," and she reached In her purse and handed over the five. It was almost two hours later when the doctor returned, and coming to the door he Immediately came over to the dentist's chair and started to work. "Did we win?" gasped Miss Loyd. - VSlt still or I can't work," answered the dentist, and kept on without reply. Nor would he make any answer until he had finished. Then he handed her $25. "The horse was 12 to L" he explained. "That would make $06," protested the pa tient. "Yes," said th dentist, "but my fee was $40." 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