THE HUE: UMrtMA, ri?IDAY. NOVEMBER 23, 1921. Britain Clashes With China on . Root Principles Delegates of Two Nation Dif ferently Interpret Four Point on Filial Au- , tonomy1 of China. Washington. Nov. 24. (Ity Tht Anociated I'ttm.) Althmigh formal proceedings of the arm conference had been suspended for Thanksgiving day it was expected to be one of only nominal ret for the detrgatea, and that in the absence or any meet iiiffi of the conference or iti stnS-di visions the neitotiation would con tinue to be pressed throuh cotwul tationa among the various individ ual and trronns. Ai development In the conference tood today, the outstanding point of interest appeared to be the conflict of views between the Urmsn ana Chinese delegations in their inter pretation of the four adopted Koot principle! as applying to the ques tion of fiscal autonomy for China. The British view that the Root reso lutions were adopted by the powers as according with acceptance by China of a financial consortium, pooling of railroad concessions and continued supervision of China s cus toms would mean in the opinion of the -Chinese delegation an interna' tionalization of that country' economic resources. Propose Full Autonomy. The Chinese delegation proposed on the question of tariff tuat full autonomy be restored to their gov ernment by three stages, the first permitting an immediate increase in the maximum to which China's im port duties are now restricted. The French delegation raised another ele ment of uncertainty in the proceed ings when they pointedly asked the Chinese delegates by what authority they presumed to speak for all of China over tbe protests of the south ern government .at Canton. The Chinese replied that they were rep resenting the :only government rec ognized by the powers. Leadership of the French delega tion falls today to Rene Viviani with the departure for France 'of Premier Briand, who declared he was leaving "quite satisfied with the results of the conference." American officials are giving some thought to the possibility of salvag ing as nonrombatant naval or as commercial craft the three new- bat . tleships now afloat, but which would not be completed under Secretary Hughes' naval limitation plan. Thep are hopeful that in fixing the methods of scrapping, the conferees will not make an arbitrary rule that would require the ships to be sunk or otherwise totally destroyed. It is possible, ship building experts asserted today, that the Colorado, Washington and West Virginia could be converted into serviceable inter mediate liners for commercial use purely. Ship Builders Concerned. . Commercial shipbuilders now en gaged on, naval construction arc greatly concerned as to what the im pending naval reductions mean to I them and the government is begin ning to get a reaction from that quarter. None of the builders who have visited Washington, however, has voiced direct opposition to the conference program of the adminis tration whatever they may feel. Their inquiries here, it was learned today have to do largely with devis ing ways and means of keeping their plants in operation. In this connection some of the builders are understood to be con sidering what they might be able to do in salvage operations on ships to be discarded and broken up. Briand Quits Capitol. Washington, Nov. 24. Aristide Briand, permier of France and head of the French delegation at the armament and far eastern conference left Washington shortly after 8 o'clock this morning for New York, from whicfj port he will sail, tomor row, for home. The French premier had been in Washington a little more than two weeks. French Isolation. London, Nov. 4. Marquis Curzon of Kedleston, British secretary of state for foreign affairs,' speaking at a luncheon in London . today, de clared that if France pursued an isolated and individual policy of its own it would not in the long run in jure Germany' and it would fail to protect itself, r . Two-Year French Enlistments. Paris, Nov. 24. (By The Asso ciated Press.) President Millerand today approved for submission to parliament a military recruiting bill authorizing two-year enlistments and lightening present restrictions. Japanese to Retain ' Interests in Manchuria ' (Continued From Fate On.) States and the European powers are not disposed to go to war to save China from the consequences of its own folly. They are ready to ex pend all their reserves of moral sua sion to check aggressions upon China, but they do not intend to fight. There is a good deal of apprehen sion of the eventual results of Jap anese expansion on the Asiatic con tinent, but it cannot be prevented, it is generally conceded, short of war and the disposition is to persuade Japan to exercise moderation and to hope for the best Japan is fairly exuding moderation in - the pending negotiations. It wants nothing more than Manchuria wants nothing more than Manchuria, trenched to be dislodged. Anything else that the powers unanimously think it should yield Japan will yield. It wants to remain in good standing with the western powers and wants an agreement on the far eastern sit uation that can be called a substitute for the Anglo-Japanese alliance, which appears, to be doomed by its unpopularity in the British empire. - 21 Demands Bad Bargain. In addition Japan has found its 21 demands on China a bad bacain and the whole course in endeavoring to control Chin a costly failure. The Chinese boycott has ruined Japanese Text of Official Communique on . Pacific and Far East Questions Br T AtwchM Trm; Washington, Nov. 24 A com munique issued yesterday on the meeting of the committee on Pacific and far eastern questions said: "The committee on Pacific and far eastern Questions met at 3: JO d. hi. The topic of discussion was the cus toms revenues of China. Mr, Koo, on behalf of the Chinese delegation, made a statement. He emphasized that the Chinese government had no desire to interfere with the adminis tration of maritime customs or with devotion of the proceeds of the cus toms revenue to the payment of var ious foreign loans secured thereon. Prior to 1842, he said, China enjoyed the full right of levying customs duties. In 1842, however, and in the subsequent years, after having made treaties with Great Britain. France and the United States, a limitation on this right was imposed. The rule of 5 per cent ad valorem was established and the rates were based on current prices then prevailing. In 1858, as prices began to drop and the 5 per cent actually collected ap peared 'somewhat m excess of the 5 per cent prescribed, a revision was asked by the treaty powers. Revision Made, ,"A revision was accordingly made. Later, however, as prices mounted, no request for a revision was forth coming, and the Chinese government did not press for a revision, seeing that the revenue then collected from other sources was not inadequate to meet its requirements. The cus toms rate then prevailing was much less than the 7 per cent stipulated for. It was only in 1902 that a revi sion was made to aiford sufficient funds to meet the Chinese obliga tions arising out of the Boxer pro tocol. In that tariff the rate was calculated on the basis of the aver age prices of 1897 to 1899. "In 1912 an attempt was made by the Chinese government to have an other revision, but it failed, owing to the difficulty of securing the unanimous consent of 16 or 17 pow ers. It was only alter six years that in 1918 another revision was effected. The tariff-of 1918 yields only 3J4 per cent. Urges Full Autonomy. "Mr. Koo p-spa-'d to restore to China the right to fix and to differ entiate import tariff rates, but as it appeared hardly possible to establish a new regime all at once, he said full autonomy should be restored China after a period agreed upon. In the meanwhile, China would impose a maximum rate anjl would like to have full freedom within that maxi business in Thina and Tokio is ready to abandon that line of procedure. Japan will be entirely satisfied with an agreement which haves it secure in Manchuria, reduces the American navy to an extent that de prives it of the power of fighting suc cessfully in the western Pacific, leaves the Japanese navy strong enough to take the Philippines .and no cloud on the horizon, the possi bility of Great Britain, with the An-Klo-Jaoanese alliance scrapped, lin ing up with the United States to pre serve tne status quo in ine racmc. Secretary Hughes and Mr. Root, upon whom has developed the leader ship in the consideration of the tar eastern problem, are a prey to no il lusions concerning practicable possi bilities of the negotiations. They are taking the line of least resistance to an agreement, realizing tnat tnere are many matters on which agree ment is out of the question. Their first step has been in the direction of making China self-supporting. With adequate revenue, China has a chance to survive. Without adequate revenue China is likely to disin tegrate in the near future and open the way to the realization of designs bv Japan on China which Xokio now appears willing to forego. Let Fatirha smokers tell you Licctrr k Mrixs Tobacco Co. mum, such'as the right of differen tiation among the different classes of commodities. But as the present financial condition of the Chinese government was such a to require some immediate relief, it was pro posed that on nd after January I 1922, the Chinese import tariff be raised to 12 1-2 per cent, as it was stipulated for in the treaty with the United States, Great Britain and, Ja pan. "Among reasons he alleged in sup port of the Chinese proposal the M; lowing is the gist: T,he existing customs regime in (. lima constitutes an infringement oi China's sovereign right to fix tariff rates at her own discretion. "It deprives China of the power to make reciprocity arrangements with the foreign powers. "While all foreign goods imported into China pay only 5 per cent, Chi nese goods exported to foreign.coun tries have to pay duties of a maxi mum rate. Examples were given to show this lack of reciprocity. Impediment to Development. "It constitutes a serious impedi ment upon the economic develop ment of China. "As the system stands, there is only one uniform rate and no differ entiation Of rates, ihc disadvantage is obvious because it does not take into account the economic needs ol the Chinese peoples. China is in need of machinery and metals for which China would like to impose a tariff rate even lower that the S per cent. For luxuries such as cigars, and cigarets they ought to pay heavy tax, As it stands, therefore, the Chinese tariffs are not scientific. ; "The present tariff has occasioned a serious loss of revenue npon the Chinese exchequer. Each item of customs duties is an important one in the budget of nearly all countries; for instance. Great Britain raises 12 per cent of its revenue from customs duties: France, IS per cent, and the United States 35 per cent before the world war, but the customs revenue in the Chinese budget as if now stands, becomes a comparatively in significant factor. "The present regime makes it dif ficult for the Chinese government to ask for a revision as it was shown in 1912 and in 1918. "Even if the effective 5 per cent should be levied, the revenue result ing will still be hardly adequate -to meet the requirements of the Chi nese government. i "After general discussion the cus toms tariff question was transferred to the subcommittee agreed on at the meeting held November 22." . Thanksgiving Prayers For Arms Meet Success Washington, Nov. 24. Scene of the conclave of nations striving to tighten the bonds of amity and mini mize the provocations of war, , the national capital blended a spirit of hope today - with its observance of Thanksgiving for the nation's weal; The day brought a pause not only to the routine machinery of govern ment but to the overshadowing events of the international confer ence as well, affording an appro priate opportunity for reflection on the possibilities of achievement at its door. Prayers for the success of the con ference formed the text of sermons in many of the capital's -churches with foreign delegates joining with American officials in attending the services. With President and Mrs. Harding, many of them had ar ranged to attend those conducted undre the auspices of the Federal Council of Churches of; Christ in America at the Calvary Baptist church. . Con gress has released $90,000,000 for use in road building. IDtll do n , . m FATIMA CIGARETTES c but taste the difference British Regard French Stand on . Subs as Challenge Briand' Insistence for More Under Sea Craft. Draw ' Critical Comment From English Delegates. By HENRY WALES. Washington. Nov. 24. The Anglo-French split on opinion of sub marines was accentuated yesterday. Although France has been champion ing the American viewpoint regard ing submarines. English circles re garded M. Briand's demands for in creased subsea tonnage as a Chal lenge to the recognized supremacy of the British navy. The British delegation to the dis armament conference was seething with comment, chiefly bitter and critical, against the French as the result of Premier Briand's insist-' ence that France needs submarines, alter Air. Artnur j. uaitour s spcecn promising English support in event of another onslaught by Germany. Britain views France . demands for increased submarine tonnage as a direct threat against England in the seas, despite the fact M. Briand explained that he conld not alone agree to limiting subsea craft and pointed out the necessity of includ ing the Scandinavian states, Holland and other powers in such an agree ment Amplifies Views. M. Briand amplified his views on submarines in an interview this eve ning just before his departure for New York, whence he will sail for France on Friday. '"When Great Britain demanded the right to maintain 500,000 tons of capital ships, France did not com plain; she did not construe it as a menace against her," remarked the premier. " But Britain no longer has to maintain a fleet against the German and Russian navies; they no longer exist. France wants a suitable number of submarines and light coastal cruisers to protect her coast and to maintain communication with her colonies. Submarines and light cruis ers can be built cheaply and they are weapons of defensive warfare. France desires peace; it has no need of "offensive weapons. We might use our submarines to study deep sea botany, but capital ships are not necessary to fish for sar dines. - ' Big ships are offensive weapons. They cost a great deal and they mean much to the peoples tn taxa tion for construction and mainte nance. Light cruu-ers. ana subma rines are cheap and . are defensive weapons solely. Reduces Army. . "The powers gathered here are facing no enemy on the sea; we are all friendly. Nevertheless, two are preparing to reduce naval' - arma ments by-about 39 per centiunder Mr. Hughes' plan. ' "But in land armaments, the na tion France facing two potential enemies, Germany ard Russia, has already reduced her army 33 per cent and. will cut it another 10 or IS per cent in the next year. "In, examining France's army it must be taken into consideration that France has jeen compelled to provide most of the troops;: neces sary in the various regions of Eu rope to execute the peace treaties." Merchants to Accept Corn In Payment of Merchandise Madelia, Minn., . Nov. 24. Mer chants of Madelia have decided to accept corn as payment of debts and purchases of merchandise. . This ac tion was taken Tuesday and fol lowed complaint of farmers that they were unable to meet financial obligations and held the low, mar ket price of corn made it impracti cal for them to haul grain to market. Latest Chapeau From Paris Is Wine Colored One of the latest and most exclu sive styles in headgear is the wine- colored velvet hat, with a drooping fuchsia-hued plume. ' . " if t i t r New Zealand ravors , ; Anglo-Japanese Pact Washington. Nov. 24. (By The Associated Press.) New Zealand stands beside Australia in-favoring continuance of the Anglo-Japanese treaty for the present or until "A more comprehensive system" for guaranteeing the peace, of the far east has been found. . "We see . no justification for scrapping that alliance without sub stituting something for it," declared a spokesman for. New Zealand yes terday. "Japan gave us faithful and valu able service in the war." lie added, "and we owe her our gratitude. It is not the English nor the American way to turn our backs on a friend. If, and when some more general agreement, can be entered into for the preservation of the peace of the Pacific, New Zealand and Australia will welcome it as a substitute for the present imperfect system." - Portland Tftxrs for Fair. Salem, Ore., Nov. 24. Governor Olcott will call a special session of the legis lature to meet December 19. It waa an nounced. . The chief purpose will be to refer to .votera a measure proposing to levy a, special ta of 13,000,000 as the entire states quota, for the proposed 1925 world fair- fund. . MsflHHHBsSBHHslsHHH After Thanksgiving Street Dresses m Afternoon Dresses Dancing Frocks Dinner Gowns and Evening Dresses for Remarkably Fine Savings Gome with "the expectation of pur- v chasing new dresses for much less' than their usual prices. All are from regular stock. The new prices are pleasingly low. If A group of wool dresses. Misses' sizes only. 16, 18 and 20. . Friday $25 flTricotine, Poiret twill,' crepe de chine, crepe satin and satin dresses, braid - trimm e d styles. Sizes 16, 18, 38, 40, 42 and 44. Friday $39.50 All of our higher-priced exclusive goxens arc offered. in this sale for decided reductions in price. Friday Apparel Sections Third Floor Lovely Hosiery for Evening Wear Light colored hosiery is fashionable this year when worn with the pat ent leather pump. And we have French grey, beaver, mode, nude, blonde, silver and gold. Then, too, there is ex quisite fancy hosiery, such as black lace inserts, hand embroidery, lace clocks, lace in conventional de designs and Mexican drawn work for . most at tractive prices. And chif fon hosiery in black, dark brown and silver. Main Floor Japan Ready to Discuss Change In 1915 Treaty Delegates Willing to Hear Charges That Poet Interferes With Equal Rights oC Other Nations. By Tbe Associated Frew. Washington. Nov. 24. Any at tempt at the Washington contcrenre to attack the validity of Japan's 1V1 5 treaty with China, often called the 21 demands, would be opposed by Japan, it was said yesterday, but Japan would not oppose an examiua tion of the treaty which would, be based on allegations that the agree ment is in conflict with the principle of the open door or equal opportun ity in China. In other words, it was intimated Japan would be ready to discuss any charse that the equal rights of other nationals were bemk interferred with tinder the 1V15 agreement. It is admitted some inquiry may be caused by interpretations of the nationals of other powers of the clause under which Japan capitalists may have the first right to make loans to China for the bui1d:ng of necessary railroads in south Man churia and cstern inner Mongolia. It is said Japan will be fully ready to present its case on this point as well as upon the additional clause in the notes attached to the treaty that the Chinese government, when ask ing for a loan on the security of the taxes in these provinces (excluding the salt and customs revenue) are to negotiate for it with Japanese capitalists. Still another provision in the gen eral accord of 1915 declares that if foreign advisers or instructors on political, military or police matters are to be employed in south Man churia, Japan "may be employed first." , Says Erin Defeated Eng-taml. Chicago, Nov. 24, Ireland defeated England before the truce and It would be a foolish prime minister that would again renew the war, Frank P. Walsh, legal adviser to Eanion Da-Valjra, Irish republican leadet In the early peace ne gotiations with Lloyd George, last night declared at a meeting held here under the auspices of the United Irish societies. If Afternoon dresses of Poiret twill, tricotine, satin, and crepe satin. Sizes 16, 18, 20, 36, 38, 40, 42 and 44. Friday $59.50 Exclusiye , cloth dresses and fine silk gowns for afternoon affairs, din ner wear and formal evening occasions. All sizes. Friday $75 Bloomers for Every Occasion Bloomers are fast taking the place of petticoats fof both daytime and evening wear. They are shown in' air the newest shades of the season for prices that are reasonably low. Second ' Floor The Sub-Deb Will appreciate these H and W elastic girdles that lend ample support to the figure without the loss of comfort. A variety of at tractive styles are offered for prices that are very reasonable. Second Floor China Will Go Down Fighting in Conference (('MtlBiM4 rVow fag One.) powers have -already subscribed. Not arms, but moral right and the force of public opinion will be relied on to keep Japan from further as greision. There can be no body that will enforce the decisions of this conference. - The strengthening of Uiina so that it can enforce its own rights is the aim of the United States. The first agreement likely to be reached along this line is that con cerning the tariff. In asking for tar iff autonomy, China is in reality pleading for the privilege of plac'ng its import and export duties upon a yientific basis. At present there is no distinction between necessities and luxuries and China is not al lowed by the tariff provision of its treaties to take any steps that would foster the growth of its own industry and commerce, China cla ms that it has the means at hand for deter minating a scientific tariff, for the reason that the present organization of the Chinese customs includes a large number of experienced men who have spent their lives in this serv'ce. The 1920 foreign trade in China amounted to more than one billion dollars. To Continue Discussions. Discussions of Chinese questions is expected to continue for two weeks lonser. Such problems a Thibet, Mongolia and Manchuria may be postponed indefinitely. Brit ish spokesmen indicate that their delegates will insist upon recogni tion by the conference4, of the An- gio-iniDetan treaty which was forced upon Thibet as a result of the war between hnglatid and Thi bet in 1904, when England dis patched an armed expedition from India to L'Hassa. From that time until the : present, England has sought to induce China to resien Thibet, which, according to Chinese, would then become virtually a part of England's Indian empire. Mongolia has declared independ ence and Chinese effort's to recon quor the country have failed. East ern inner Mongolia is under influ ence and control of 'the Japanese railway zone in South Manchuria. Japanese delegates will not discuss the Thibetan question, as this bears a direct relation to their own prob lem in Manchuria. Here, as in oth er ways, Japan and England are standing together. i Sale Handkerchiefs for Christmas Madeira glove : handker chiefs, embroidered cor ner designs on fine linen. - Hand Embroidered ones of lawn from 35c to 60c. Fancy Colored Linen ones, hand embroidered, from 50c to $2.25. Main Floor Outing Flannel for 19c a yard This heavy grade outing flannel is well napped and is shown in a pretty assortment of stripes and checks. The 27-inch width is 19c a yard. Second Floor Italians Desire Voice in Deciding Chinese Affairs Senator Albertini Says Addi tion of Representatives Might Remove Some Objections To Settlement. By Ttw AMrbrt4 froae. Washington, Nov. 24. The desire of Italy to participate in the con sortium with Chinese fiscal affairs was made known yesterday in aM interview by Senator Albertimi and Ambassador Kicci. Addition of Otaly to those now included, the senator said, might remove some objection indicted by China to the plan, n Predicting it would be more diffi cult to fix a standard of the limita tion of land than naval armaments, the senator said that to reach an understanding over reduction of land armaments the conference must dis cuss reasons mitigating in favor or against maintenance or the reduction of land armaments. The greatest difficulty for the limitation of land armaments, he said, was expressed by Premier Briand Monday, when he said France could not accept reduction of its forces unless it received proper guar antees. Declaring Italy and franco are on the best terms, he said reduc tion of the Italian land armaments had been "inspired by the true desire of bringing about in Europe a situa tion of lastine peace." "Our strategical position was mod ified after the war," he said. "Be fore that we were faed with the dilemma of having to fight either France or Austria. Now we must try1 to get such a reduction of arma ments which will not deprive us of the forces necessary to defend our sea communications. From this point of view, Italy is almost an in- sular power. If our sea communica tion were cut off we would starve and would be obliged to surrender in a few weeks." Say Hnndlt (Jang Broken Wichita. Kan.. Nov. 24. With more than a dozen peraona In custody, police last night believed they had gone a Ionic way toward breaking up a gang of train and bank robbers which has been operat ing tn the southwest for several weeks un der the leadership - of Kdward Adams. . who was shot and killed here Tuesday by detectlvea who had gone to arrest him. Dresses The Vogue of Low Shoes If Persists in remaining with us and in winter spats have become al most a necessity. There are Brogues of patent leather, tan, Russia and dull velour calf with round toes and either flat or mili tary heels, priced from $8.50 to $10. H A brand new line of spats are recent arrivals. They - are shown in all desired shades' in eight-inch, twelve-inch and four-teen-inch tops. Main Floor