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Fhe Omaha TAUT OWE unday EE VvTATHFR FORECAST For Nt'lirnskn- Showers. l'or lov a l loinly. For w rather rppnit see rRf 2. COPY FIVE CENTS. NEWS SECTION FAOTO OJTB TO I'.OIT. VOL. XL-NO. OMAHA, SUNDAY MOKNINU, AUdt'ST 7, l!1f SIX SECTIONS TIIIIITY-EIOHT TAOKS. SINCJL .CHICAGO'S GATES fc ARE WIDE OPEN 0 " Half Million People Are Expected at the Annual Conclave of Knights Temr:ar. PLAN FOR RECZPIION COMPLEIE Every Day to Be a Busv One for the Visitors. PLEASURE TO GO WITH BUSINESS 1 Banquets and Fi'htsjein Trios on the Program, j GREATEST MEET IN HISTORY iy P pec In I Precaution Taken to Preserve the Hriltli of Visitors and PrfVfiit Accident- on the Street. CHICAGO, A'lg- 6. (Special Telegram.) -.hlcago Hands rei'rty today to receive 609. OOf) strangers, "who will tarry within Its Kates during the thirty-first triennial con clave and encampment of the Knights Templar of the United States. For years, quietly, and for weeks, openly, the work of preparing has gone on. Now It Is done and ClpVagois proud of It as It stands. The first event on the official program will occur Sunday, when divine service will he held In Orchestra hall. Rev. George C. Kafter, grand prelate, will officiate. The sermon will be praehed by Rev. George H. McAdama, formrly of Evanston, now of Madison, Wis. William Edward Watt will have charge of the music, with Ieroy Irv ing Wetzel at the organ. The choir will be composed of the quartet of five Knight Templar commanderles. In the evening J there will be sacred concert In Orant j park. Monday will be devoted to reception work, JBft a dinner of the "Mutual Square," the ftmni recorders and correspondents, at the Chicago Athletic club at 4 p. m. In the evening there will be a military concert In Orant park. On Tueaday, following the grand parade, the opening session of the grand conclave mill be held. The grand conclave Is com posed of four highest officers of each atate commandery, together with those who have "passed through the chairs." It Is now composed of about 400 sir knights. Drills and BlKhtseelnn-. Wednesday and Thursday the drill con tests will be held and Friday and Saturday general e'ghtseelng will occupy the time of most of the visitors. Thursday night there will be a fireworks display on 'the lake front. The parade of escort will be held Tues day morning and will be the largest Knight Templar parade ever held. It la confidently asserted. As a conservative estimate Mar shall Puiinton declared there would be 80.000 ItnlfchTtj-iri lTrtf, exclusive of the police and the 100 and more bands of music! The 1 ruling Idea will be lmpresnive simplicity. The color scheme will be the somber black and white of the order. Gaudy decorations will be tabooed. s ; The line of march will be down Michi gan avenue from Thirtieth street to Van ' Buren, thence, after a halt, to Washing ton street, west to 8tatv street, south to Jackson, boulevard, west to Ia galls 3veet and north to the disbanding point the city hall. At 9:46 o'clock one gun will be fired as a, signal for the staff of the grand mar shal to report at Thirtieth street and Mich igan boulevard; at 9:66 another will signal the police escort, the staff and the first division to form in column, and at 10 three hots and "forward" hy the official trumpeter will announce the start. Most Brilliant Affair. Chicago triennial will go down In Knight Templar records as one of the most bril liant In the history of the order. A round of social gayety, ranging from Imposing functions to the Jollleet sort of "open house" Informality has been planned for conclave week. The most notable affair will be the reception to the grand en Witnpment officers and the grand officer ' jT the varloua commanderles and their Wives by the carl, of Euston, supreme grand roaster of the great priory of Eng land and Wales. It is to be given Tuesday evening In the gold room of the Congress botel. Simultaneously there, will be four Cther receptions. Special precautiona have been taken for preserving the health of thousands of Visitors who will be .In the city during the conclave. It la realised that not since the World's fair has such a crowd been gath ered as will witness the big Templar pa rade, and every care has been taken to arrange for those who may meet with srtckness or aocident. Physicians and arses. A corps of 128 physicians and the same Dumber of trained nurses have volunteered for service. One or more will be atatloned In each black during the parade, with a quad of twenty-four In the grandstand. purlng the conclave one or more physicians Will be on hand at each' of the hotels in the loop. The women's auxiliary- of the grand Commandery of Illinois, under the leader ship of Mrs. John D. Cleveland, has ar ranged several affairs for the women visit ing the omqlave. Wednesday morning the auxiliary will be the hostess of the women of the grand encampment,, about 200 In number, st an automobile ride through .the parka and boulevards of the city. Thursday a luncheon upon the roof garden rf the I. a Salle hotel will be tendered the a me guests. Monday evening the auxiliary' will be the hostess of the knights of the grand con clave and their wives at a performance at the Illinois theater. Frobably the most Interesting, feature of the encampment, from the points of view ' ef the Templars. Is the series of exhibition 1 drills In which the different comma ndrlna mill contest for supremacy In the mastery of he Templar manual. Commanderles from all over the country have entered the list and the winning crganlsatlona muat be practically perfect to carry off the honors. - Handsome prises and trophies, valued at thousand of dollara, have been obtained by the drill committee for awards to successful contestants. (irjiu..." nuns (Kui 9 HW.fcUU. Jowft incurred, through poor loan caued ae listUtuttuu'a failuie. Small Bank la w York Falls. NEW YORK. Aug. -The Europe-Am.r-lean bank, a small Institution, closed it doors today and the stats supvrlntendent of banks has directed that the Institution's af fairs be liquidated. The bank a inten ded In 17, with a capital of 100OJ and Its Six Feet of Laws and Two Feet of Amendments Referendum Ballot in South Dakota is Formidable Looking Affair. PIERRE. S. D.. Aug. O.-t Special. )-Th? secretary of state has received camples of the referendum ballot whirl) will be pre sented to the votirs nt the November elec tion. It contains six different laws and Is on a atrip of paper six feet long and ten ln( hea wide. It U printed In nonpnilel type, and to read it would take up over half an hour of the time of a rnpid reader, who would give It but a hurried going ovrr. The constitutional amendment ballot will be over twenty Inches Ions In nddition to this and would require about twenty mnutes more for eonaderaton. The law of the state gives each voter five minutes In which to prepare his ballot, and In this ho will be expected to pass upon the six feet of lawa anw two feet of amendments and arrange his general ballot, which will keep him going some. Ninety Candles on Birthday Cake Fort Dodge Pioneer, Who Has Lived in Iowa Fifty-Six Years, Cele- brates Anniversary. FORT IX tGE, la., Aug. 6. (Special.)- I I.liarn I'angborn of this city had .ninety" candles on his birthday cake yesterday when his daughter, Dr. Sara Klme, perpe trated a small surprise on him with a very large cake as the feature of the celebra tion. Mr. I'angborn Is now a nonegcnarlan. and the most remarkable part of the fact that he has attained this age Is that he Is healthy, keen of mind and reads without glasses two dally papers every day. He took (special pleasure In reading the postal card congratulations by the score which he received from life-long friends. Mr. Pangborn was born In Bridgetown, N. J., August 4. 1820. He moved to Ke nosha, Wis., In 1842, and there married a school teacher. Miss Amanda 8. Stranahan. They moved to Iowa In 1S54, settling In Fayette county, where he bought 240 acres of land, and with his bride experienced all the struggles of the pioneer. Six children were born to them, only one, a son, now being dead. The living are Mrs. Klme of Fort Dodge, wife of the state tuberculosis lecturer; Mrs. Jane Peterman of Pasadena, Ca.; Martin W. Pangborn of Seattle, Wash.; Frank A. Pangborn of Faulkton, S. D.. ajid George W. Pangborn of Algona, la. The family moved to Fayette no that the children mlght.be educated in the Upper Iowa university; 'then In Its Infancy.. To assist in building the college Mr. Pangborn nauiea n.ateriat irom ouDuque with oxem ' For seventy years Mr. Pangborn has been a Baptist and has never In his life used tobacco or liquors. Mrs. Klme. his daugh ter, declares she never has heard him use a prafane word. - " Fall Business Starting in Well Indications Said to Point to a Trade Twenty-Five' Per Cent Ahead of Last Tear. sM NEW YORK, 'Aug. 6.( Special Telegram.) Joseph H. Kmery, president of Ixird & Taylor, said today that In spite of the fact that the July cotton report was less fa vorable than for June the dry goods situa tion Is more promising for future business now than for the last six months. "Stocks are low over the country," con tinued Mr. Emery, "and the hand-to-mouth buying that has been practiced by the large dry goods houses must soon be discon tinued. "The cotton report Is not to be taken too seriously, as the next two or three weeks Is a very critical period for cotton growers and the entire aspect of the situation can be changed during that time. "Early indication point to the conclusion that our full business will run ' about 25 per cent ahead of last year and there Is no reason why other dry goods houses can not show the same results In spite of the prognostlcatlona of numerous calamity howlers." Will Lead Nebraska Knights Templar to Chicago Conclave Richard C. Jordan, eminent commander of the Mount Calvary command?ry. Knights Terpplars, who Is to be at the heud of the great delegation of knights which is to leave. Omaha this afternoon, la a big figure In Nebraska Masonry. It was largely j through the personal efforts of Mr. Jordan that preparations for the trip of the local Knights Templar to the thirty-first trien nial conclave at Chicago were made in such an elaborate manner. Mr. Jordan has been an efficient ex'- eeutlve of the Templars' affairs in the local district with many achievements to j his credit during the last eighteen yeans. I Through his activity one of tne largest ! I delegations of knights ever bent out from ' this point will be cn the special train which has the distinction of being manned x- j cluslvely.by a crew of Knights Templar, railroad men today. i Mr. Jordan was born at Ashland, Mass., I tnlK& U received his education in the school of Milwaukee, to which city his parents moved when he was a small boy. Eighteen years ago Mr. Jordan first came to Omaha. During the laat ten years of his residence here he has been superintend ent of the United State Indian warehouse, in charge of government supplies for the Indian reservations of this district. In lsaS he was president of the Hoard of Education, and at all times he has been an energetic worker in affairs or civic Improvement Mr. Jordan has always been an enthusi astic Mason. I.aat year he was elected etnl nent commander of Mount Calvary com mandery. He ha been given nearly all the degrees of Masonry. For four years Mr. Jordan served a sergeant major and adjutant In the old Fourth regiment of the Iowa state militia. He bas two daughters, on of whom is the KEEPS HIS EYE ON T1IETHU0NE Don Jaime, the Spanish Pretender, j Continues to Seek Kinj ' Alfonso's Job. CATHOLIC DEMONSTRATION IS OFF Influence Said to Have Been Used at Vatican. CARLIST LEADERS SAW TRO Church Not Desirous to Be Party to the Uprising. BISCAYAN PROVINCE FOR REVOLT Other Localities In Hpaln ot Heady for War, and the Snn Sebastian Affair is Postponed for a Time. ROME.. Aug. 6. It was at the urgent request of Don Jaime, tlie pretender to the Spanish, throne, that the great Catholic demonstration at Sun Sebastian, which was to be held tomorrow-, was called off. Ti.. statement was made today by one of the most Influential of the. followers of the Spanish pretender, now tn Rome, to urge the vatlcun to give its approval and support to a Carllst uprising. It had become evident to the Carlist leaders that In view of the extraordinary persecutions taken by the government, the demonstration must lead to a bloody clash and a premature explosion which would greatly strengthen the. position of the government. Hon Jaime Wants the Throne. ' Don Jaime la determined to make a try for the throne, and his lieutenants are busy throughout Spain getting his forces In shape. He. has, however, struck a snag at the Vatican, It being under stood that all of hla efforts to secure active co-operation of the church In an attempt to overthrow Alfonso have been In vain. It has been determined that at ti..s juncture, at least, It would be unwise to identify the church with a dynastic uprising. Don Jaime fully realizes that he will probably sever have another such op portunity to put his pretensions to the. test. His lieutenants have impressea on him that ft Is now or never; that if he fails to raise the standard of revolt now, he will be regarded as a Joke so far as his pretensions to the throne are concerned. It is stated that the Biscayan prov inces, always strongholds of Carltsm,.are ready to rise almost to a man, but con ditions In the other parts of Spain are not yet ripe. Hence it was deemed better to hava the San Sebastian demonstration called off. "'" x In this the Carllsts ; and tho Vatican worked, together.- The. waticao does -not wish to see bloodshed la Spain, at least while the controversy with Canaleja la In Its present shape. 'Threats of Arrest.- MADRID. Aug. 6. The decision of the Catholic committee to abandon the anti government demonstration, which was to l ava been made on Sunday at San Sebas tian, was reached at the end of a stormy session. The members of the committee bad been threatened with arrest and prosecution for iHbiilng an. Insulting and rebellious manifesto against the government. 5 . Premier Canalejas today said: "The Catholics who signed the manifesto do not comprehend the meaning of modern liberty." Vaudeville Offer for Miss Leneve QUEBEC. Aug. 6. The Belle Elmore murder case reached the Inevitable com mercial stage today, when Miss I.eneve received a telegram from a New Tork theatrical manager offering her 11,009 a wtek for an Indefinite engagement in vaudeville, to begin immediately on her release from prison In the event that she is set free. Whether the girl, who is Jointly charged with Dr. Crlppcn with guilty knowledge of a brutal crime, will elect to make an asset of her notoriety was not made known this morning at the provincial Jail. RICHARD C. JORDAN. w Ife of liloutenant N. W. Pot, United State navy, the other teaching aofcool. v JlUt ,J f V "V- I ;A- ..r"-l.v ' ''''' i ri r i 7 7 s- .r.'j; his week "v-e-- MORE MOKEY ! - MORE P01ICEME3T ' ' Local MISS WILCOX UNDER ARREST Held as a Witness, Supposed to Know . of Harder of . Dr.iMiehaelis.,v MYSTERY CONTINUES . TO . GROW Mis Ilredln, an Eye Witness, De , scrlltr the Killing;, from Wlndorr of Her Room llavlna; Seen ' tbe Shot Fired. CHICAGO, Aug. 6. (Special Telegram.) Miss Elisabeth Wilcox, a stenographer, was taken by detectives this afternoon to the Knglewood police station, where she was questioned about the murder of Dr. Wil liam F. Michaclls, who was shot down In the street at Sixty-first place and Nort mal boulevard last night. v The name "Mary Golden" was found on a card In the physician's office, and detec tives were sent to find and question her. Miss Wilcox, who lives at K?4 West Sixty-first place and la' employed by an en gineering agency In the Monadnock block, la believed by the police to be "the woman In the case," and when questioned, ad mitted that she had been with Dr. Mlchaella in his office until half an hour before the shooting. After questioning her for some time Captain Collins declared he was satis fied she was. not telling all she knew and ordered that she be held in custody as a witness for later questioning, though no charge was placed against' her. Accordingly, Miss Wilcpx wa taken In charge by Mrs. Minnie Muir, (he matron, and though she was not placed in a cell, she was refused permission to leave the matron's quarters. - Around the girl the police hope to build up a structure of evidence laying bare a iove plot, with, revenge and Jealousy as the motives of the shooting. 60 far no clew has been discovered to the identity of the two men. who met Dr. Michaelis In the dentist's office, and It is believed will form an important clew. Bloodhounds were taken to the scene and put on the trail of the two men in the hopes that they could be tracked down. The man who actually fired the shot was short and heavy set. the police were In formed. His companion, who waited nearby and ran .with the slayer under the cover of night, was taller. . Powder marks on the victim's clothes show that the shot was fired point blank from a distance of lens than two feet, while Dr. Mlehaeli was in low-voiced conversation with the man, whom evidently he knew. The weapon used was a 32-caliber magazine pistol, for the empty cartridge of a kind used only tn a magaxlne gun was found In the alley down which the murderer escaped. .How Dr. Michaelis wa murdered under the window of her bed room at 10:30 o'clock last night while she crouched white-faced and breathless In the dim-llghled room; j liow the dentist staggered across the street I and then fell as his slayer fled such was the graphic story told the police today by ' the only eye witness of the tragedy, Elisa j beth Bredln, 17 years old, , 4t"7 West Sixty j first place. J Mis Bredln's statement gave the police j the true circumstances of tue killing for the first time and is believed to have estab lished that Dr. Michaelis was slain by a I man whom he knew. 1 1 ' 1 ' BOY BADLY HURT BY FALL tborle Boydaton of Boone, la., Breaks Both Arm and One Knee. BOONE, la., Aug. -(Special Telegram.) Charles Bodyston fell twunty-one feet from a tree and broke both arms, one knee j and dislocated one wrlM and was terribly Lruifceu aouui ins nesu mis morning. 110 was trying to get to the top of the tree and lost Ms grip. He Is now lying helple In his home anl may not recover. Hla father, W. D. Uoydton,.i a prominent resident here. Coming and Going in Omaha Events as View ed by The Bee's Artist. Alaska Coal is x Worth Half Cent a To n i n G r o u n d At This Price Land Would Bring More Than Bituminous Coal Lands in United States. WASHINGTON, Aug. 0. Accessible' coal of the best Alaskan fields even at a cent a ton in the grounu is worth more than most of the coal lands in the eastern states, notwithstanding their nearness to lines of transportation and to market This statement Is contained in a bulletin issued by the geological survey today under di rection of George Otis Smith. During the Balllnger-Plnehot Investiga tion A. H. Brooks of the geological survey testiried that the accessible coal In the Boring river and Matamuaka districts was worth H a cent a ton In the ground. This small figure created the impression In the minds of many people that the Alaska coal lands were of small value. The bulletin Just Issued says that priced at the rate named by Mr. Brooks the best Alaska coal lands are worth from M to $j00 an acre, values far above the average price of bi tuminous coal lands in the United States. Speaking of the Influences which have held back the development of the Alaskan coal lands the statement says the most serioua handicap has been the laws. Though laws Intended to enable the Individ ual 10 ootain title have been on the statute books for the last decade not an acre of land has gone to patent. Omaha Man Stays at Head of State Association of Deaf J. W. Sowell, who has been elected for a second term as president of the Ne braska Association of the Deaf, has been engaged In teaching deaf Institutions for ten years, and ha done as much as prob ably any other man to Improve the con ditions of the deaf In this part of the country. He graduated from Gallandet college in 1900, receiving the M. A. and A. li. degrees, and immediately began teach ing In a deaf school In Maryland, where he remained two years, coming to Omaha in 1902. During the eight years Mr. Sowc'' ha been connected withj the Nebraska Insti tution he has taught in the academic de partment, of which he la now head maater. The results of thla work shows the good he 1 ' doing In that position, for this year five of he students who have been prepared by Mr. Sowell will enter Gallandet college, tho government Insti tution maintained In Washington to give training in the higher branches of learn ing to the deaf people. Only fourteen in all are entered from the entire United States each year, and five students from one institution is considered a large per centage. While carrying on his instruction In the deaf Institution, Mr. Howell has been , the editor of the Nebraska Journal, a semi- ! monthly paper printed for the deaf, and j has written short poem for well known periodicals. When at college he wus for ' three years on the staft of the Huff ami ; Blue, the. last year being editor and 1 Chief. Mr. Sowell was bom In Athene, ; Aia,, In 1876. I married and hu two' children. Mr. Sowell was a central figure In the convention of the Nebraska Association of Deaf last week and made several talks before the delegates, showing the work that 1 being done tn both the institution and outsldo In the state. The associa tion of Ui United State are. proving PUT ALL OTHERS IN SHADE American Girls th.4Most Beautif-.:1 in the "S?orld. - VIEWS OF GEORGE BATCHELLER Women of Europe Are Dracrlbed by an Expert . and Are Then Lined t'p for Com nnrlnon. NEW YORK, Aug. 6. (Special Tele gram.) "The American girl la the most beautiful In the world. Why, I consider that If the Vonus de Milo should ap pear on earth today she couldn't hold a caudle to our American girls." This was the. statement made today by George Clinton Batchejler, who, has Just returned from a long trip abroad, where he has made an explicit study of the women of the world in a business way He Is an expert corset designer. Here Is how he. sizes up the typical woman of Europe: "Let us begin with the French woman. She Is not beautt fill. In the first place; she la not even pretty. She Is short and thin much too thin. She has a very short waist. She has no shoulders at all and no hips. Her nose is hooked she. Is entirely without our graceful pointed noses. Her complexion Is usually a work of art,' and her eyes are large and pretty but her face as a whole fs a disappoint ment, . while her figure Is very poor. Her real charm ,ies In her clothes and the way she wears them. Besides, she (Continued on Second Page.) a m V 7 J. W. BOWELI.. a great benefit to the rieuf people, in by their co-operation they have been en abled to enact many things which other wise would have been Impossible, w 1 CHOCTAW CHI El:1 AS.UU'LNESS McCurtain Charges He Was Offered $25,000 to Withdraw Opposition to Land Contracts. M'MURRAY THE BRIBE GIVER Curtis and McGuire Dcnv an Interest in Deal. HAM ON TESTIMONY IS ATTACKED Accused of Sjcstin? He Might Get in on Contracts. STORY OF MEETING AND REDES Senator tioro Tell of Proposition to Tut Tbrontth ntr of Thousand of Acre uf luillnn l.nntf a. MUSKOGEE, okl.. Atiar. . Not only Jack L. Hamun. but J. K. McMurray, was named as a woull-le briber In the Investigation of the $.10,000,000 Oklahoma Indian land ileal bs fore the special congressional commute today. McMurray Im the holder of the contracts with the Choctaw and Chlc.isaw Indians, to piomo'e which In cunress. Senator Thomas P. Gore charged lie was offered a bribe. D. C. McCurtain, a Choctaw Indian and a delegate to Washington for ills tribe, charged that McMurray In 190(3 nf fared him a bribe of $r..000 to withdruw opposition to the old tribal - McMurray contracts which were subsequently disapproved by Presi dent Roosevelt. Ureen McCurtain, chief of 18,000 Choetawn, an Indian of G2 years, with gray hair and brown plump cheeks, told the committee that George W. Scott, whom he believed acted In the Interest of McMuiray, offered him one-fourth of the "profits," provided he Induced the tribe to withdraw all oppo sition to the deal. Thl offer referred to new contracts held by McMurray. which are the cause of the present investigation. On the Per Cent. Baal. The amount of the bribe mentioned by D. C. McCurtain, who is a son of ihe chief, . Is the same as that which Senator Gore alleges was tendered him on May 6 last bv Jake Hamon to put through the pendin contracts, which, according to Senator Gore, would result In the selling of 450,000 of acres of coal, asphalt and timber landi owned by the Indians to a New York syn dicate on a basis that would give McMurrnv and his associates an "attorney' fee" of iv per cent, or $3,000,000. The presentation of the charges aualnst McMurray followed another doy of sensa tional testimony duilne which Senator Charles, Curtis of Kanso and Congressman B. G. McGuIre of Okla the stand to refute statements- that they were "Interested" In tho deal. .The name of Vice President Sherman wa again mentioned and conference held by President Taft over tha McMurray con tracts war referred to. ' Both President Taft and Vic President Sherman, according to Senator Curtis, had declared that 10 per cent attorney's fee asked for was excessive.' The opinion wa unanimous at the president's conference, he said, that in the sale of the land no attorney's assistance was needed, and the government by treaty already had stipu lated to tell the land on Its own responsi bility. Indian Glye Testimony. Something of a pry of an Indian war council was presented when Chief McCur tain, known as the "governor" squatted hllllUll? In A I .1 ""win me committee, and brushing the files off his head with a large handkerchief,, gave his . testimony. "A long time ago." he said, "many of the Choctaws protested against the big fees that would be allowed under the McMurray contracts. I. myself, sent a protest to the secretary of the interior-Just before th adjournment of the last congress. Georga W. Scott came to my home and asked me to sign a letter. I refused to do so. "Then he came again and told me he wanted me to write a letter in h. tary of the Interior, withdrawing my pro test against the McMurray contracts. When I said I would not do that, he said he was authorised to agree to give, me one-fourth of the profits If I did. 'Yes,' he said, 'We are going to get and 10 per cent fee out of It and you will get one-" fourth of the tenth. Now you sign th letter and It will be a great bargain." I absolutely rerusrd to do It and he went away." Promise Not Kept. "A good many of your tribe did sign the contracts with McMurray. didn't they?" asked Congressman C. B.. Miller. "Yes they did it because they are losing Mil faith in the government. They have lost all faith In the government official and in their tribal officials too. - It' be cause they have been given so many prom-' Ises and the promise have not been kept. The government promised It would sell the .and and dlstrlhuta th nrnflta In I'M If husn't done so yet. The Indians are be coming disheartened over the government's promises, and thatn why they sigrued the contracts. They thought it would be bet ter to get some of the money than none of it." "Aie they in u hurry to get money?" "Yen, they certainly are. They need it t .. are poor, for they have been living, oil promises so long." "hy do you Indians have so many law yers? "Because we want to get the money," "Can you estimate how much your tribe has paid out in attorneys' fees in the last tun years?" "Our tribe in that time ha paid out ,:bout Huo.OOO. ( urtla Denies an Interest. Senator Curtis told of having been sum moned by telephone to the White House to discuss there with President Taft and Vic Piesldent Sherman the merits of th Mc Murray contracts. President Taft had ex pressed the belief that the 10 per cent fee was too high and his visitor agreed with him. This, the senator thought, sufficiently refuted the Imputation that lie was "inter ested" In the land deal. The senator knew Mt Murray for years and had never known f his attempting to "influence" legisla tion. Senator Curtis also testified that he alst knew of no anlmaslty existing betweer himself and Senator Gore, except that Mr. Gore had remarked that Curtis was "med dling too much In Oklahoma affairs by fair means and by foul." Congressman C. IZ. Cieager of Oklahoma attacked the testimony previously given by Hamon, whom he accused of having sug gekted that he might obtain an "Interest"