Mayor of New York Talks of Its Possibilities Copyright, 1901, by Frank G. Carpenter.) y trw vimv Anrll 11 fSnerlnl Cor I respondent of The Bee.) I gtvej W I vnn n,1av n n Interview with Sk man who represents the biggest ' .11.. , L r.. mlt.it n ,! labor on thin hemisphere. It la hardly a talk on rnpltal and labor, but rather on the product thereof. New Vork grows In spite of capital combinations and labor organ izations. It grows bo faHt It has not time to theorize why It grows. It Is like a great green boy who plunges along doing what la before him, and only stopping now and then to double up his arms for a look at Ms muscle and to show his fellows how big It Is. It was to Inspect the great mucl of New York that I came here, and to get Its accurate dimensions culled upon the mayor In his office at the city hall. General George I!. McClellan was lovingly called "Little Mac." Rt 111 ho was big enough to b one of the great general of our civil war and a candidate for president of tho United States. The mayor of New York Is the son of that "Little Mac," and In many respects he resembles his father. He looks like a boy, and he Is still In his thirties, although he has been (in editor, a business man and a representative In congress. Ho Is now mature enough and strong enough to act as the ruler of the second city of tho world, and there are those who say be yet may be the democratic candidate, for the pnsldency of the United States. About two years ago 1 met the lord mayor ' of London In his palace ucross the way from the Hank of England. It took letters i of Introduction, much parliamentary corrc- I spondenco and Interviews with flunkies In ( livery before I came Into Ms presence. I got to the mayor of New York with my visiting card, which was taken In by a po liceman with a brass badge on his bosom. Ills honor received mo without ostentation, and like most of the big business men I have met lie seemed to have leisure to talk. The conversation was rapid. The young mayor knows his own mind and there Is no ono better posted upon the great city ot which be la ruler. "I havo come from Washington," said I, "for a talk about Now York. What U the condition of the town, and how Is It get ting along In Its struggles with capital and labor?" "New York Is having no struggles Just now," replied Mayor McClellan. "We had some trouble with the building trades last year, but toduy our condition Is thoroughly healthy, and, barring some temporary an noyances as to our theaters, we are at peace with ourselves and all the world. Our labor Is In a good condition, and It prom ises to remain so." "Is the city growing?" "Yes," replied the mayor. "It grows so fast that wo must be always on the alert or It oversteps us. Our chief trouble now ' la as to the schools. We have not enough buildings to accommodate all the children, and at present there Is 9.1,000 who can go to school only half the time. We have al ready about COO.OOO children In the schools; and the natural Increase for the next year will be something like 35,000, and for the year following 38,000, bo you ae we have to build far ahead." "How many people has Now York?" "Just about 4,000,000," replied the mayor. "How does that com pure with the other cities of the world?" "It Is exceeded only by London," was the reply. "New York Is now more than a million In advance of Farls; it Is twice as big as.Chlcugo, lterlln or any city In Asia, and three times as big as St. l'etersburg. There are only four states In the union Which exceed. us In population, and we have one-twentieth of all the people In the United States." "Will New York ever equal London?" "I think there Is no doubt of It," an swered Mayor McClellun. "London la al most full grown and New Yolk Is Just be ginning Its youth. We are Increasing faster now In proportion to our population thun London, and London Is gray-hulred com pared with New York. It was a city In the days of tho Homans, although later on Its population dropped. New York Is only t years old. When New York la a old as London what may it not be?" "Hut baa New York room for growth, Mr. Mayor," I asked. "Have you available space here for many more people?" "Yes, indeed," replied the mayor. "We can accommodate live times as many peo ple as are In the New York of today. We can house 18.0O0.OC0 and give them plenty of room. The Island of Manhattan Is pretty well covered, but we have Brooklyn, Long Island, Slaten Island and possible suburbs In every direction. We are now making a rapid ferry system for Stolen Island. It Will be owned by the city and It will cause that region to grow. Th?re are only 70,000 people there now, but there la room for millions. The Williamsburg bridge gives ua another outlet to Brooklyn, and the tun nels which the Pennsylvania company la to dig under tho North and Kast rivers will furnish rapid transit to suburbs who capacity la enormous. Yes, we have room here for 15.000,000, and when they ooine we Will accommodate them." "But, Mr. Mayor, I have recently been In Chicago. The people there think they are the real bub of the United tSates and Kv.;?V;y:.Y:' , : : : MAYOR GEORGE B. M'CLELLAN, OF NEW YORK CITY. Bay their city will eventually surpass yours." "We have not begun to worry about Chi cago yet," replied Mr. McClellan. "We think this the natural gate of the United States and that it will always be so. New York Is already the chief port of the world, and It Is Increasing Its shipping every year." "But your honor," I sold, "suppore a ship canal should be built in connection with th.3 great lakes, so that ocean steamers could go right Into Chicago?' "That possibility Is far In the future," replied the mayor of New York. "We pro pose to have a little canal ourselvei from here to Buffalo, which will largely Increase our business. At any rate, wo are not afraid of Chicago at thU present time. New York Is Uncle Sam's chief gateway." "Where Is New York growing Just now, your honor?" I asked. "For an answer to that question," re plied the mayor, "you have only to open your eyes. It Is growing everywhere, both In the city and in the suburbs. Tho bor ough of Manhattan Is fast becoming one of steel skyscrapers. Bronx has been cut up Into building Works and a vat number of dwellings and flats are going up there, Brooklyn Is growing faster than New York in short the whi le of Greater New York has on Its seven-league boots. Within the past two years more than eighty large roal estate companies have been Incor porated, with a total capitalization of more than $75,000,000, ami they are putting up buildings of all kinds, residences, busi ness blocks, apartment houses and great hotels. The Increase In the apartment houses Is very great. In 1902 something like sixty-six were erected, representing a total Investment, including the land, 'Of about $50,000,000. it Is the same as to de partment stores and otllce buildings. In deed, It Is hnrd to realise bow fust New York Is growing." "How about public Improvements?" "The city Is being bettered right along," replied the mayor. "The Williamsburg bridge, which was formally opened In De Furnishings for T0WEST wrinkle In bed room furnishings for spr:ng and sum mer la the use of the crown tapes try canopy for the dresser and bedstead. N The chief thing to recommend the tapes try canopy Is lta economy. Any old bed room suit can be used aa a foundation, or even a pine frame work, painted white, for the dressing table and wash stand. The latter la draped with figured tapestry along the simplest lines to give the valance effect. The dressing table has a crown foundation overhead, from which the tapes try falls In graceful folds and extend to the floor. The background for the mirror Is also of the tapestry, and In this frame work Is Bet an oval beveled glass at a height con venient for a woman to sit when making her toilet. The entire dressing table Is enveloped in the tapestry, over which Hi)! . K x."".xr- cember, is one of the wonders of Greater New York. It is forty feet wider than tho Brooklyn bridge and with Its approaches, Is a mile and a half In length. It has cost about $20,000,000, and It will soon be carrying a large part of the traffic be tween New York and Brooklyn. And then there is the new subway system, which will soon be completed at a cost of $:!5,000,- 000, and there also are the Pennsylvania Improvements, which are to cost about $50,000,000. Thcio nio other thing, but these are enough to show that New York Is not falling behind." "It must cost something to run a city like this, Mr McClellan," said I. "It does," said the mayor of New York. "It costs Just about $92,000,000 a year, or If you take In certain county and state Items the amount Is $l('8.COO,0OO a year." "That Is an enormous sum," said I. "Does New York get the worth of Its money?" "I think so," replied the mayor. "There Is a vast deal of work and it takes a small army to do It." "But where does all the money go?" said 1. "The salaries must be hih. How about the mayor? What does ho get?" "Fifteen thousand dollars," was the re ply. "Poos he earn It?" I asked. "I think he does," replied Mayor Mc Clellan. "He gets here at 9 o'clock In the morning and is kept here until 6 o'clock at night, and every hour of his day Is a busy one. Yes, I think the mayor earns his salary." "If It were not a personal question, your honor, I should like to know how the pres ent mayor likes his Job?" "Ho likes It well," . replied the young mayor of New York, with a Bmlle. "The position U a responsible one, and one that makes a man feel he is doing something and makes him hope to do It well." "But, your honor, can you really do things? Does not politics control? It is said that Tammany Is the real head of New York?" "That 1b a mistake," replied the young mayor with emphasis. "Tammany has the Bed Room white point d'csprlt frilled dresser scarf Is spread. A bedstead painted white, or a brass one, Is draped crown fashion to correspond with tho dressing table, and also has valances of the tapestry. White ruffled point d'esprlt pillow shams and spread give the little dainty touch and tone down the brilliancy of the floral coloring. A slipper ottoman, upholstered and lined with plain sateen, which has pockets around the sides for the footwear, goes with this set A chair, which Is the epitome of com fort, Is an addition to the set. it Is called the "Thirty Winks," "Forty Winks," or "Fifty Winks," according to lta size. It nearly envelops the occupant, as It has not only a high back, but high bide pieces which extend out to the padded arms. A box couch upholstered in the tapestry, with cushions, la aCered as an alternative f the chair. nothing to uo with this office. I am thai mayor of New York " "Is New York a Christian cTtyT" 1 asked. "What do you mean?" replied the mayor, rather surprised. "I mean that many people who live back In the country think this place a sink oC Iniquity a sort of a Hades with the lid oft." "I believe the people here are as good as? they are on the average anywhere In the United States," replied Mayor McClellan, "Wo have more than 1,000 churches, syna gogues and cathedrals. Our people are cLurch-goers and we observe the Sabbath better, perhaps, than any other large city In the world. Yes, wo are a Christian city In the broadest sense. We believe In things. We don't ull believe tho same way, but we do bellevo In something, and, on the whole, I think we are up to the aver age as regards personal and municipal moralit y." "Speaking of municipal morality, your Iionor, how about the grafters and boo fllers? Is not New York City overrun with them?" "If It Is," replied tho mayor, "I have not Been them. They have not shown their heads since I came Into office." "But, your honor, you certainly have a large number of the criminal classes here. . Are there not places in New York City where a man would risk his life by going about nlone at night?" "I don't think bo," said the mayor. "I should not be afraid to go anywhere lr New York alone any time of the day of night." "What Is your Ideal for New York, Mr. McClellan. What would you like to see the city become." "That is a big question," was tho reply. "I do not deal In Ideals. All I can do Is to grapple with things as they come up and settle them as far as I can. I want to see the city Improved, and I think wo are steadily improving It. I want to see It made clean, healthy and safe before try ing to build up a plan by which It may be made beautiful. At present our chief busi ness Is with the utilities." "What do you think of New Yorkers, Mr. McClellan?" I asked. "Some people Imagine that they are a little smarter than the average American In other parts of the country." "I don't think that," replied the mayor, "although there Is one thing In favor of such n supposition and that is that tha best of everything comes to New York. This Is the national center of wealth and business, and those magnets attract brains and rklll from every part of the country. In that respect New York Is milking the United States, and steidy streams of the best ability produced by the country are always Rowing here. We get not only much of the best milk, but the very cream of tho country." "What Hre the chances for young men In New York?" I asked. "I think they are good." replied the mayor. "The place to make money Is where the money Is. The place to do busi ness Is where the most business Is. This city needs good young men and lots of them. It has never needed them more. There will always be room for the right kind of young men In New York." "How about politics, your honor? I see, It said thnt New York U oppored to tho renomlnatlon of President Roosevelt. "I am too busy to consider polltlis," re plied tho young mayor, "and I don't caro to discuss them. I can't see, howrve-, why New York should be singled out as having special friendships or antipathies different from those of the rest of the country. In this I do not refer to President Roosevelt nor to any man; but to the fact that New York Is often spoken of as having special individual interests. That is not the case. Our interests are the same as those of the rest of the United States. Weare an American city and are as anxious for the general prosperity of the country as any people in the country. There Is no place where private Interests reach otit bo far or where the desire for the common wel fare of the country Is so great. Within five minutes' walk from where we are now sitting are men who have financial Inter ests, I might say, In every great under taking In the United States and In every locality. No, New York Is not provincial in its Interests. It Is tied to every part of the Union, and It la for the welfare of tho whole country." "Can you not give me a word or bo about the presidency, Mayor McClellan?" said I. "I see that some of the newspapers advo cate your nomination as the democratic candidate?" "I have already said," replied the mayor, "that I do not want to talk politics. As It Is now I am not bo much interested In that subject as I am In New York. I havo already told you something of lta bigness, and you can see that I have all I can do to attend to It." "But, your honor, suppose you were nom inated and elected, would not your having been born in Saxony prevent your holding the office?" "I think that matter baa been pretty well discussed In the newspapers," replied the mayor. "At any rate I am not seeking tho nomtntlon for the presidency and I don't want to discuss It." i FRANK, Q. CARFEKTKB. 4 4 T7