Diplomats on the Isthmian Canal Question (Copyright, 1902, by Frank O. Carpenter.) a ASHINOTON. May 22. (Special I Correspondence of Tho Bee.) - I ll'L . t...ll.l ,..... canal across the Isthmus? The answer to this is given in the following interviews with the mlniHters from the countries of the principal routes. Ki(h man thinks hla government has the best proposition ami each has little good to pay of the scheme of the other. But I shall let the diplomats speak for them- HolVOfV My first Interview was with the minister from Nicaragua. Mis excellency's name Is Senor I. uis F. Corea. He Is a highly edu cated Central American, who, during his renldence In Washington, has nequlred the Kngllsh tongue, m that it was in English that our conversation was held. Said Senor Coren : "There Is no question hut that the best route for the canal Is the Niearaguan route. Your engineers have ho decided, and it seems to me that all the arguments, both sanitary ami financial, are In its favor. I)y Nicaragua your Pacific and Atlantic wtates are nearer each other by two days than they would he at Panama. A canal there could be more easily maintained, and In the end it would be far cheaper than the Pan ama route." "The 1'aiiama advocates make different claims," Bald I. "Yen," replied Senor Corea. "It is easy to make any sort of a claim, but more dif tlcult to support It by facts. Let us look at the facts. The Panama Canal company lnu-1 already spent $2.r0,000,000 and It has completed about one-fourth of tho undor- J Milium '"J"'-""" ' " "" """"""""js '"" ummmmaBwmam i f J top ' ' J;.' . uz? t i"-1-" " " - " Si ii i r msvHS. kjuwAt.-Wi.JMMIteMMM-- ..:lllir.r-rt-- .- SENOR LUIS F. COREA, MINISTER FROM NICARA GUA Photo Taken for The Dee. SENOR CARLOS MARTINEZ SILVA, MINISTER FROM COLOMBIA Photo Take n for The Bee. taking. It Is willing to sell that fourth to an,i grazing lands. We could easily feed there in raising bananas, pineapples, eo- through the Isthmus of Panama and that tho United States for $40,000,000, but after an tn9 workmen needed, and we have water coanuta and rubber." If your country does not make it some tho United States ha3 bought It It has cn,j rniiroad communications which would "What are tho opportunities for such other parties will. What we want is to see three-fourths of the canal to make. At tho t,ut your supplies Just where you want men?" the United States buy out Hi3 French, and samo rate as the first fourth the expense them. We have now one of the most pro- "They are very great if they can only -' believe that you will find it to your in- would bo $720,000,000. It might be done for grestslvo rulers of this hemisphere. Gen- wait a while for their crops to come Into frest to do so." ipsa, dui me cost win no enormous. era j08e Santos Zclaya. Ho was educated bearing. In rubber It takes about seven in Europe and has traveled widely. He la yfar to raise the trees, but after that very broad In his views and he realizes tme tney pay very wej j am interested "There Is one thing," continued Senor Co- that tho canal will greatly neip our coun i a plantation which has 25,000 trees, rea. "that I have not seen mentioned In the try and people. He will do all that he can Thoy are now fivo yeara o(1 and wiu consideration of this Panama proposition. ' aia your government ami win gram an pro(luce rubber about 1904. The trees cost toraething and nothing All the advantages ti, iTnit,.,i R.t.. u i fcnnw. thfl richest necessary concessions. At first it was pro- tint a trifio tn nlnnt nnd rnrfl tv.r. Wfl erow .iv . u r. -n..t t i hA Dimri. country of tho world, but can it afford to Poaea to create a nu"al zone 01 nree tho sprouts in nurseries and have the In- t,st route, the most economical route, the take $10,000,000 right out of lt circulation miles on each slue of the canal. I us or aiang get them Qut at 2- centg ppr UBk ute fewe8t iocka ana the rou:e Our (aold (ioen to I'tiincf. I'aiiuiiiii Vermin N en i auiia. "Suppose the United States does that, Senor Silva," said I, "what will it get that it would not have on the Nicaragua route'.'" It would have the difference between and give It to France your government will have to pay $40,000, 000 to the French and you will have noth ing In return for It but the chance to spend hundred of millions more. If you take up the Nicaragua canal you will have to spend less money eventually and the greater part of tho money will remain right here. It will all go toward the purchase of American .I.,- ,ii i .i.. anything else that Is necessary will be u lino UCHl in mnuu . glveu, tLiiuouKU uy uui cuubiiiuliuii v o cannot sell the land to a foreign power. We can, however, lease It In perpetuity, and this means the same thing." "Hew about the health conditions along the line of the canal, Senor Corea?" said I. "Can our people live and work there?" "Certainly they can," replied the minis ter. "I have gone over the reports of your macninery aim supplies wun tne exception engineers and surveying parties. They of the comparatively small amount paid out tate that NicalagUa U the healthiest of all for wages. tropical countries and not to be coneldered "Hut the same will bo true or tne fan nma canal, will It not?" In tho same class as Panama. Surgeon mis canai we expect to see many auibw Bradford. who went over the route with can planters come in. We raise a very fine A task means tho setting out of a certain that could be maintained at the lowest cost. Dumber of trees. The Indian may do It In H is a route that ha3 bc'tn tested by ex three hours, four hours or eight hours, but p.'rlments and actual work, he Is paid by the task without regard to "The Nicaragua line U absolutely unde time. After the trees are once set out veloped. Surveys have been made, but no they receive but little attention until they practical experiments have shown the pos are ready for cropping. sible expense of conetruction. You know "There are a good many opportunities for of the railroad tunnel which they are now making money in cocoanuts and bananas, making in New York. Before that tunnel and also in coffee. About one-third of our was dug all sorts of borings and experl coffee estates are now in the hands of the ments were made, and upon the basis of Germans, but if the United States builds n aa an estimate was rormea or us proc aine cost. "When the work was done It was found coffee, as good as can be raised In any part "To somo extent, but nothing like tho Kixtv surveyors nnd 140 Jamaicans and amount which will go Into American pock- natlvts In 1887, says that he did not have of the world, and it brings high prices, els in the construction of the Nicaragua one case of serious lllnets In his whole canal. The labor cost at Panama will pirty. He was there In the rainy season bo far greater than at Nicaragua. The ex- nnd was doing actual work along the lino iravaganee of tho French has ruined labor now proposed. Admiral Walker reports Now Itallrciuils niul Mine. "The mineral resources of Nicaragua are great," continued Senor Corea. "We have conditions there. You will not be able to that he had men with him while he some very rich gold mines and we are now get workmen for less than $2 per day, while was making his surveys through the building railroads to open up the mineral that the estimate was $10,000,000 below the figures of the engineers. The railroad tun nel was very short. The Nicaragua canal survey extends over many miles. It has been made In an unknown country, and you can't tell how far the figures of the en gineers will be from the actual cost. They can figure as to what they can see, but they cannot calculate all the difficulties that may come up. "On the Panama canal work has been at Nicaragua they will not cost more than swamps and that he had less sickness and parts of the country. We have also large r.O cents ner lnv This means that we can malaria than ho would have had had ba areas fitted for cattle raising. There are save you three-fourths of the labor ex- een running a survey In Virginia at ths now hundreds of thousands of cattle upon done along the whole line. A great part of penso of the work. Our labor Is better than " sen huh m hut i ju these lands, but there might be millions. lt has been dredged, and the mountains that of Panama. Wo have the Indians, who 'milar quotations from frry traveler and We export many hides and of late have have been actually cut down. Already two are easily managed; they live upon little ens'neer who has been over the route. We b(en eJtporting meat to Cuba and others of fifths of the canal has been completed, and and consequently can work at low wages. nro entirely free from the yellow feve and the West Indla Biand8. you tan figure out the cost of the remainder They will not be walking delegates to Incite from alarla ln dangerous form. .0(r pPople realize that tho canal would almost to a cent. A large force has been --rnKiiM. benefit them. They believe It will double at work for the last five years and hun- "Is Nicaragua such a country that Amerl- tno valuo of their lands and greatly In- dredd of men are there working today. The cans could prosper ln It?" crease tho prosperity of the country. We property is In a good working condition. "I think so, without doubt," was the re- have no doubt but that It will eventually One set of managers can easily step out ply. "A fit answer to that question Is that be built through our territory." and another begin their labor on a few "Hut would lt not take some time to pre- many Americans are now doing so. We j had an interview on the same subject weeks' notice." pare for work upon tho Nlcaraguan canal? have been having quite an Immigration witn Senor Carlos Martinez Silva, the mln- You would have to build railroads and put from your country. Three hundred and fif- inter from Colombia, who left Washington l,Bt rencl e "naiuo. up towns, would you not?" . teen young Americans came In last month some weeks ago. He told me that Colom- "But does the work of the French amount "Not at all," replied St nor Corea. "There and I get at least fifty letters a week ln- bla was very anxious that the canal should to much, your excellency?" I asked, are towns and cities now along the route quiring about the canal and the chances be built and that It was willing to give any "I think lt does," replied Senor Silva. of the canal. Lake Nicaragua has many for securing land near It. Already a concessions which would lead to the choice "Those who have not been over the line of thriving settlements upon its banks, and number of plantations have been set out by of the Panama route. Said he: the canal do not appreciate its value. Wheu the country about lt Is rich In plant at ons Americans who expect to make fortunes "We feel that a canal will eventually go the canal was started an enormous amount trouble among the Jamaicans and other West Indians, whom you Import to help along the work." .Men riiHiia HmiI fur I'nltril States, of preliminary work had to be done before the real operations could commence. Houses had to be built for tha officials and workmen. Vaere was no timber to speak jf and the most of the lumber was brought flora the United States. Some of the houses were finished in the United States and sent in pieces to Panama and thire, put together. Hospitals had to be erected, and you find hiee now at both ends of the line. A city grew up at Colon and that nt Panama in creased in size, so that today you hav hiusts, hospitals, offices and cities with which to do your work. "You have also the Panama railroad , 'ady to transport materials and to lay :hem down along the line of the canal. This road is will cquippcJ and running. It was constructed in the early f.O's, when the presint sanitary arrangements had not been made, and it consequently cost an enormous loss of life. A similar road will have to be built along the line of the Nica tagua canal if you choose that route and lt will cost many lives to construct it. The Panama road and canal have Kd to settle netits along tin line and the excavations aave aided In draining tho lowlands so that hj country there is healthful today. We have had no yellow fever to speak of for tome years and t feel safe in saying that there is now no danger to the health oi Americans at Panama." I.iilior (titration. "But, suppose we buy tho canal, senor, can you supply the labor needed to com plete it?" "Yes. There will be no trouble In get ting good workmen. You can bring them over from Jamaica and others of thj West Indies islands and we can supply much from Colombia list If. We have a large number of idle people who would seek work of you, and the employment ot these would take away a part of our revolutionary forces. It would render the government secure and would gradually make Colombia the richest and most important of the South American states." "But the Isthmus of Panama is thinly populated, is it not?" said I. "No. It has more inhabitants than mc3. people ihink," replied Senor Silva. "The Isthmus of Panama belongs to a province which has an area four times as big as Massai husctts. There are parts of it which have great natural resources, and, together with the rest of Colombia, It will furnish an enormous fitdd for American capital." "Suppose the Panama canal is chosen, will Americans have any special advantages in Colombia?" "I should think so," replied the Colum bian minister. "The canal would bring our countries closer together. It would cement the friendly relations which now obtain be tween Us) and we should naturally favor American capital and American Immlsia tion." "I suppose you know," continued Senor Silva, "that Colombia Is an empire in its natural resources. It is of great size. Y'ou could put ten states the sze of New York into lt and have space to spare. The most of the land is high and healthful, and we have vast areas which will raise coffee, sugar, cacao and other crops. We have sonre of the best grazing lands of the world and the Cauva valley might easily be made the garden of the universe. This valley lies between the mountains not far below Pan ama, extending, roughly speaking, north and south, lt has an area us great as Texas and ita climate is well suited to your people. The canal will develop it. "You know something of our minerals. My country has already produced more than $700,000,000 worth of the precious metals, and we now stand fourth anions tUC gIVUl UIli-flUUUI.IUf, I W I, till II o. ttuciiu led only by the United States, Australia and South Africa. Large amounts of Amer ican capital are already invested in Colom bia, and if you complete this canal we shall probably be partners in the develop ment of the richest parts of all South America. FRANK G. CARPENTER. How Music Soothes Angry Nerves I T WAS the Incomparable Plato who fiist suggested the treatment or the sick with music, yet a year or two ago a Paris physician offered tho Idea as his very own. Perhaps the latter was the first to make a practical application of the theory in the ruse of hnsnital natlciits. relates the Phila delphia Record, but with what measure of success has not been reported In tho uews papc r press. Although when asked by what means he rendered his patient Insensible to pain a Texas dentist pointed to a club in a convenient comer, there are western medical men who ate more disposed to keep step with modern progress. It was from the Paris example, and not from the great philosopher of antiquity, that an alert St. I' uls h spltal physician got hs Inspiration to try musical therapeutics. The western physician realmd that for the proper or best influence of music it Is essential that the surroundings and all the conditions should be helpful. It Is the mis fortune cf the public that the divine musi cians must be heard only in a great hall, where glaring lights may flash on the pit e less gems which adorn the crowd of fash ionable women and where it is imp ssible that the hearer should be able to shut out all earthly eights , and sounds, save only music, and be borne away on the wings of melody to realms tf purest bliss. The man In tho next seat fidgets or hums an Irritat ing accompaniment to the Instruments, or does something else which proves disturb ing. The doctor resolved that in his test of the Influence of niusle on the disirdered human system the conditions should be as favorable ns he could make them. He could not command stained glass windows and fluted columns and vaulted arches and a cathedral atmosphere, but he subdued the light of the room with effective window drapery and he burned some josshouse In cense and put a few mothballs about the cot. In this chamber he installed his grumbling patient a newspape nan who suffered from neurasthenia (In common speech nervous exhaustion) which Is of a'l nervous maladies the most vague and ob stinate and presumably the one ln which the victim must be most responsive to musical treatment. The patient, like all sufferers of his kind, was afflicted by In somnia. Wheu he did sleep from exhaus tion it was to awaken in a most irritable state ot mind. Tha BinU man slept as the physHan quietly led the violinist Into the room anl placed him ln a remote corner, himself re treating Into the corridor. Softly the tweet stratus, as tender as the vibrations of an aeolian harp, wandered through the cham ber. Gradually the notes came stronger and clearer, rising and falling and dis persing in the perfumed air, more like dream music than the product of human skill. The patient stirred, and as th sounds grew in volume he turned bis he;, d. "Scat! you beast!" he exclaimed. 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