Si'ptcinlicr WOO.
Carpenter Has
With Li
saw four ChlncBO olllclnla carrying an open
(Copyrighted, WOO, by Frank O. Carpenter.; red and bluo hands about tho ankles. Upon cltntr across tho court. In tho chair ant
HONO KONG, Aug. 15. (Special Corro- the arm of each bearer's coat an American ft chlnceo giant, his great frame covered
spondonco of Tho IJee.) Long beforo this Hag was beautifully embroidered and there wjt, n Buk GOwn of blood red and his yol
letter is published LI Hung Clung will wcro also sK'l'cs of red and bluo down tho low faco ,olf hidden by nn olllclal hnt, out
have reached l'ekln and will bo counseling
with the representatives of tho great pow
ers about tho reorganization of tho Cb.lm.so
mplre. There is no doubt u3 to tho result
e
of tho war. Tho Chinese rebellion will
probably be (illicitly quelled and tho hor
net's nest which tho empress dowager ha3
brought about through her friends, tho
Boxers, may result in her being stung to
death.
Iu the meantime Li Hung Chang will do
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is country Ho is ono of tho VhrowUeBt
nis country, no is ono oi mo snrowutsi
diplomats alive, and I believe ho 1b as
ia B'i i iT v i !, , ,
is snrewu. i nno nenru rmicn
g my various visits io unitm,
1 a number of long Interviews
tricky as ho
of him during
nnd have had
with htm.
I met him first in 1SSS when I visited Tl n
Tsin on my trip around tho world. Ho was
the viceroy of Chlhll and superintendent
of the trndo of north China. His income
from this position was several hundred
thousand dollars a year, and he had al
ready amassed millions.
Tho next time 1 met him was bix years
inter, when he was richer nnd more power
ful than ever. This was Just hi foro tho
war between China and Japan. Li's wife
had died nnd he had given her a funeral
tho cost of which would havu been a for
tune to tho ordinary American. Ho had
had a birthday on which his presents had
amounted to tens of thousands of dollars,
and ho was on tho top notch of prosperity.
I took n trip in his special car to thu
Chinese wnll and had tho honor of bolng a
guest at a dinner which ho gave to our
former secretnry of state, John W. Foster.
Tho dinner was of that extravagant nature
only affected by tho millionaire Chinese.
It embraced about thirty courses and ninny
of tho viands were of tho costliest descrip
tion, tho shark flns having cost their wolght
in silver and tho delicate birds' nest soup
being almost as expcuslvo ns liquid gold.
At that tlmo I spent nn nftcrnoon with tils
excellency. He talked freely about all mat
ters relating to China, Including tho rebel
lion In Corea, which afterward brought
about tho war.
My next lntorvlcw was at tho Arlington
hotel, in Washington. Tho groat Chlucso
carl had seen his forces defeated In battle
by tho so-called "Japanese monkeys." Ho
nnd lost his yellow Jacket, but ho was as
proud nnd cocky ob over, for his trip
nround tho world was almost a triumphal
one.
A Clint wllli I.I IIuiik CIiiiiik.
My fourth and last Interview with Ll
Hung Chang was held a few weeks ago,
Just before the outbreak of tho present
' trouble In China. I spent a fow days with
my friend. Hubbard T. Smith, who was
then In chnrgo of tho consulato at Canton,
nnd through his Influence and a special re
quest from Consul General (loodnow and
letters of Introduction from tho State de
partment nt Washington was again able to
have a long conversation with Karl Ll.
I found him living In great state in Can
ton. Ho wns getting a nominal salary oi
t only a fow thousand dollars a year, but tho
nr.timl receints from his olllco were In tho
neighborhood of half a million dollars nnd
his personal possessions woro estimated at
something llko 1100,000,000. I wns told that
ho had been sent to Canton by tho empress
dowager as a reward for his services, In
order that ho might lino his own pockets
and nt tho same tlmo squeeze ten millions
or so out of south China for tho mighty old
lady of Pokin.
I found that It wns moro dllllcult to so-
euro nn audience with Karl Ll than In tho
past. His excellency wns full of business
nnd his ago prevented him from seolng pco-
plo as ho formerly did nt Tien Tsln. It
took much red tnpo to got to him. Tho
lotter from Consul General Goodnow In-
troduclng mo wns In tho mandarin dialect
nnd It was forwarded In a brown official
envolopo nbout ono-fourth tho slzo of this
newspaper page. Ono of our consular mes-
songers In llvory carried It to tho palaco
and In reply his cxcolloncy sent back nn-
other envelope even bigger, enclosing his
Clilneso card and n request that I would
visit him at 3 o'clock that afternoon.
I had to havo a Clilneso card written in
order thnt I might bo proporly Introduced
at tho palaco and I had to go In state, for,
for that afternoon, I wns a man of prom-
Inenco nnd no ono of rank can walk In
Canton.
Mr. Ciiriienler'H Hctloiie.
My retinue, could I havo dropped It down
on tho streets of your city, would havo
drawn a bigger crowd than a circus pro-
cession. I had tho olllclal chair of tho
consulnto, a gorgeous box-llko affair two
feet wide, four foot long nnd four feot
high slung between two polos, each of
which wns about fifteen feot long. Tho box
was covered with a silk greener than any
Irishman's ribbon on St. Patrick's dny
and tho sent within It wns of satin of a
bright vermllll i I crawled Into tho box
JAand then four tall Chinamen, wearing tho
Hred, whlto nnd bluo of tho American con-
sulato, raised tho poles to tlmlr shoulders
and trotted off with mo. Each man had n
hat of whlto straw as big as a bread bowl
fJH with a red silk tassel of tho thickness and
t length of a horso's tall half bobbed. Kach
wore a Jacket of whlto trimmed with rod
and bluo stripes and whlto pantaloons with
a Talk
Hung Chang
ureases. 11 was nil imposing uvory aim uu-
cidedly American.
In addition to the bearers I had tho ting
cnt or ,,ntlvo major doino of our consulato
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uuu luiu iuiiicbo suiiuuis. i uu suiuiura
wcro even more striking than the chair
men. Their pantaloons were of black paper
muslin so wide that they Happed about
their baro yellow legs. Their sacuues wcro
of red flannel embroidered in Chinese char-
acters, and they woro white straw hats
with brims ns big around ns a tub and ns
n,bep ns ,hu wnBl"" fl,st "u,,e 0,1
, .. . .,.,, ,,,. i,nii
tnu WiiLi uu titHO lillliwk tint viiv.it itttmu
n3 the' "lurched In front of us through tho
foro,Kn cotu.oason, As Wl, ctt.,ed the narrow
l)K11.slimk,(, Btreets of tho Clilneso city
. . . . ,, .,.. ,
tho hats were pushed off and allowed to
rest hanging upon the shoulders, looking
for all the world like great shields protect-
Ll Hl N(! CIIAN'li
TKIt HY HIS
-FROM A l'HOTOCJKAlMI 1MIKS12NTKI) TO FRANK (J. CARI'lLM
BXCKLLUNCY THIS SUM.MKR.
1"B that most vulnerable part of tho Clilneso
soldier his back.
UMlnif m Stntc TliroiiKli Clinton.
I wish you could hnvo seen me as they
carried me through tho crowded streets of
thnt most crowded of cities, Canton. In
many plnccs thero was hardly room for tho
chair nnd tnc people were squeezed uacic
ngnlnst the walls to let us go through. Our
soldlors, In their paper muslin pants and
red flannel Jackets, pompously pushed their
way to tho front, yelling to tho peoplo to
stnnd aside for the great foreigner. Uabies
cried, boys stared with open mouths, nnd I
wns dragged through long lines of yollow
faces, out of which block eyes gazed
through button-holo lids, In all stages of
curiosity mixed with disgust.
Our way went through miles of business
Btreets. and we finally camo Into tho great
court of Ll Hung Chnng's palnco. Wo
could see tho flagpoles with tho bird cageB
on their tops which marked tho olllclal
dwelling of tho viceroy long beforo wo
reached It, and wo passed between theso
poles Into nn open spaco flagged with granlto
which wns several acres In area. Crossing
this, my chair bearers set mo down In front
of the four great doors which lend Into thu
palaco proper, and Just between tho two
gigantic stono tigers, hideously painted In
red nnd white, which guard tho entrance
Tho soldiers then surrounded my chair
ntid kept off tho crowd, whllo tho ting chl
carried my red card In to Ll Hung Chang,
In threo minutes nnd fifteen Beconds ho
returned, nnd ns ho did so tho great doors
in front or us opened inward nnd wo wero
directed to enter. My bearers took up tho
chnlr nnd carried mo through ono court
after nnother, each surroundod by buildings
cxtravngant in decorations nnd gorgoously
carved. At last wo stopped In front of tho
viceregal reception room. Hero wo wcro
mot by ono of Karl Li's secretaries, his
physician and a high official, out of tha
bnck of whoso hat a peacock feather stuck.
Tills mnn walked In front of mo, carrying
my red card boforo him. Ho led us Into
a great room, In tho center of which was a
long tnblo covered with bowls of cakes and
crystnlllzed fruits, nnd nt ono Bldo of which
wns a Brnnller tablo, upon which woro tea-
cups and cigars. Wo Bat down nt tho small
tablo and chatted awhile, awaltlsg the
THE ILLUSTRATED WE K.
coming of tho viceroy. Tho two secre
taries spoko excellent Kngllsh, which they
had learned In America.
I.I HlltlK CIiiiiik In 1000.
Within a short tlmo I heard n commo
tion, and, looking out through tho door, I
0f which lloated a great peacock reatlier.
,s n,0 bearers camo closer 1 could recog-
nlzo tho features of LI Hung Chang, who
Is now so aged that ho Is carried from ono
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room oi ins imiui'u iu uuuiuui. 4a inn tuuii
was act down and tho bearers, seizing his
arms, raised him to his feet, I could see
that ho has put on flesh since ho took his
trip around tho world and that ho has do-
veloped a stomach which shows a visible
swell when ho sits down. On that day It
lay In a grent wrlnklo over his belt, al-
l08t covcrln tho B1Jcn buck,' Bot wllh
.ii..,,ia i ri,ia i,-n(ra witii fna-
w liWitu till ? 1 1 utnitvuu vuituktviu 4ivn
toned his gown,
Tho viceroy was supported by his
ho crossed to tho tablo where I was
,, ,, , , ,,
men ns
was Btand-
Ing, nnd upon my presentation ho gnvo mo
bis long yellow hand to shake. As ho looked
at mo his fat Clilneso faco lighted up, his
piercing black eyes twinkled behind their
almond lids and I could bco that ho re
membered mo. Ho took n scat at tho tea
tablo and motioned mo to tho chair at his
left, which Is tho plnco of honor In China.
1.1 WlllltN ll SlllHITltlOII.
Ho tbeu began to ask questions and soon
slowed that his fatness has not touched
bis Intellect. Ho has tho samo Inquisitorial
powers which ho displayed In tho United
states, nnd put ono query nftor another ns
to my age. wealth and business. My only
Wny of getting In a question wns by tacking
jt onto one of my nnswers or by respond-
jnB v.-Itli a similar question to his ex-
cellency, eo thnt when ho asked mo whether
I was making much money I replied:
"Not much, your excellency, for n viceroy,
but fnlrly well for a prlvato citizen."
"Thnt must he n great deal," replied Ll
Hung Chang. "You Amerlcnns have a high
standard of wealth. You aro so rich that
what seems a fortuno nmong other peoples
Is considered ns nothing nmong you."
"Hut, your excellency," Bald I, "It Is cur-
rently reported that you are enormously
rich. How about that?"
"Yes, I know It is so reported," replied
tho Clilneso millionaire, "but, alas, It Is
not bo. Most of my richcB comes from
tho Btntcments in your American news-
papers. You havo mndo mo rich, whereas I
nm comparatively poor. So poor, Indeed
(tnm with a joking chucklo), so poor that
I think you rich American editors might
ralso a fund for mo. Can't you start ono?"
"I fear not, your cxcolloncy," said I,
laughlngly. "Hut perhaps if you would
m a statement of accounts tho matter
h". " u ouioro mo Ainericnn people,
Ilu' wo really bollovo that your aro rich,
,0" no, If I had one-fiftieth what you
""y0 1 should bo woll satisfied."
"ow much do you think I havo, then?"
j"''' viceroy. "Glvo mo tho amount in
flB1UI!?8' ' ,
'well, your excellency," said I, "It Is
currontly roportcd thnt you aro worth $100,-
000,000 In gold. If I could havo $2,000,000
1 B,",u,, U'lM 't & great deal."
"Yes, and It would ho n great deal," Bald
1110 viceroy. i realty uon t think 1 could
"h0 B'vo away .uuu.uuu.
T,1 question of ago next came up, and
n""" I ""d told Ll Hung Chang how old I
was 1 asked him u number of questions
about himself and his habits. He Is now
78 and feels that he Is growing old rapidly.
Still ho Is nble to work, and he puis In from
ten to twelve hours a day. Ho rises at
C, has a cup of broth and Is then shaved
and dressed. He reads the newspapers for
an hour and then eats a breakfast consist lug
of several bowls of thin gruel, some rice
and n spoonful of beef extract. After tills
he receives ipeclal cullers and holds
audiences until 112 He has a great deal of
mall, and this lias probably been Increased
during tho war. He attends to this dur
ing the afternoon, lie eats a good lunch
nnd then takes a nap for an hour ami a
short walk. After this ho goes back to
business until dinner time, lie spends the1
evening with his friends and makes it a I
rule to be In bed by in o clock.
Tho conversation beginning In this per-
B0Im, Wl. (,rltu.(, ,, ,,,, nmltrB. j
The Interview was hold about a month bo- I
foro the outbreak of tho Hoxers, and thete
was then no nppnrent danger of tho war
which has since come. The viceroy was
much more Independent in his statement b
than ho would be now, nnd when I men
tioned that I had been In tho riillipplnes
he turned rather fiercely upon mo and
asked what the United States meant by
excluding the Chinese. He said:
"You people mnke a mistake In keeping
he Chinese out of tho Philippines. You
must have them If you want the Islnnds to
prosper. They nro tho only cheap and relia
ble labor you enn got out hero. They will
develop your country, build tho railroads
fur you and work your factories. I tell you
you have got to have them."
"I don't know about that, your excel
lency," said I. "Our people nro afraid that
If wo open tho door so many of ynir Chi
nese will rush In thnt they will flood the
country."
"I don't believe there Is nny danger of
that," replied Ll Hung Chang. "You wou'd
have some Immigration, but not much. Tho
Clilneso nro not naturally an emigrating
people. They like home better than any
where else. All that you have In the l'lill
ipplnes come from two of our provinces
only "
Till' I'll 1 1 I I II N IIM II Tl'lllll- ( I'll (IT.
"Would the admission of tho Chinese in
creoso tho trade between tho Philippines
nnd China?" I asked.
"Yes, It would," said Ll Hung Chant;.
"Tho Clilneso now control tho retail, ns
well as much of tho wholesale, business oi
tho Philippines. Wo nro naturally a com
mercial people, and every Clilneso merchant
nnd exporter you havo In tho Philippines
Is Just ono more link In tho chain which
will Ho tho markets of China to tho Philip
pines nnd to tho United Stntes. The
islnnds should be n baao for your trado ro
latlnns with China and tho far oast."
"How about tho Philippines? Do you
think It will pay for tho United Stntes to
own them?"
"I should think bo. Your people seem to
want more territory and tho Philippines
aro a good pleco of property. I wonder If
your government wnntn still more land. 1
should like much to know Just what yeiu
wnnt In Chlnn,"
"All wo wnnt here, your excellency," said
I, "Is tho open door. Wo want free trade
and no favors."
"Yes, but you havo that now," said Ll
Hung Chang. "China Is now open to all the
world."
"Hut It Is not open on tho same condi
tions, your excellency," said I. "It Is said
tlmt you favor tl)(J Uu'RHlanH...
"That Is not no," nald tho viceroy, em
phatically. "Hut Is thoro not n secret alliance be
tween RusBla and China? I havo heard It
whlspored In diplomatic circles that
thero Is."
"No, thoro Is not," snld Ll Hung Chang.
"China has tho snmo feeling toward Russln
thnt Bho haB toward tho other powers. You
aro all on n lovol with us."
"How about tho strained relations which
havo provallcd between Japan nnd Russia
slnco tho Chlneso-Japaneso wnr? Ho you
think those two countries will fight?"
"No, I do not," said Ll Hung Chang,
"Neither Japan nor Russln wnntB war. The
Russians nro not ready for war. It Is a
mlstako to think they aro building the
trans-Siberian railroad for that purpose,
Thoy aro doing thnt to develop tho conn-
try. Slborla is enormously rich. It has
but fow people and It must hnvo a railroad
if It Ib to bo opened up to sottlemont."
itnllroniU in chlnn.
"How nbout rnllrnnd development In
China? It seems to mo very slow."
"Ycb, It Is necessarily bo," nald Ll Hung
Chang. "Wo Clilneso cannot move so fnst
as you peoplo of tho west. Wo want to
construct roads, but wo prefer to build
them ourselves Just as far as wo possibly
can. Wo will do It In time."
"How about tho American conccBslon
from Hnnkow to Canton? Will that road
bo built, nnd will It pny?"
"Yea, It will bo built and It will ovontu-
ally nrovo a verv nrrifltnliln mini. ! mnv
not pay at tho start, but It goon through a
populous country nnd ono full of material
and Industrial wealth."
"i understand, your excellency, that
tho empress dowager Is opposed to rail -
ronds nnd to all modern progress."
"That Is not bo," was Ll Hung Chnng's
dlplomntlc reply. "Sim is In favor of tho
Kood things that nro modern, but bIio
wants us to bo sure they nro good before
BIin accepts them. Tho newspapers havo
Bn,l ninny things about tho government of
China which nro untrue."
"yea, but, your excellency, It Is hnrd to
toll what la true In China. It Ib said that
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