10 THE OMAHA DALLY-1 BEE : SUNDAY , JUINE 110 , 1805. SECOND EXTKACT. On the 24tli uf April , 1895 , ttio Eagle Grove School of Finance opened Ui the opera housa , In accordance with the agreement related In the previous chapter and announcements which had been duly made. Judge D. P. Ulrdsell of the district court was selected as chairman. He announced that the purpose of the gathering was to con sider the adv'sablllty ' of Immediately opening the mints of the United States to the free coinage of silver at the- ratio of 1C to 1 , and as the subject was perhaps too largo'to be reached In all Its bearing ? , to particularly examine the points urged by Coin In "his Chicago School of Finance. Coin , ho said , was present , and they were favored by the presence of a gentleman who had long been an advocate of International bimetallism , but differed with Coin radically upon the policy which this government should pursue. "To begin with , " said the Judge , "I would like to ask If there Is any one- present who would oppose the free coinage of silver upon a ratio with gold which the chief commercial nations would unite In maintaining. If there are any such In the house , will they signify It now ? " No person responded. "Then , " said the Judge , "we will assume that there Is no division hero upon that point. All wish silver to be made a full redemption money upon an agreed International ratio. " At this point a telegram was handed to the Judge , which he opened. After reading It ho said : "I have hero a telegram from Gen eral J. D. Weave ! : , who asks If he may bo permitted to take part In the discussion If ho' shall como here. What Is your will In the matter ? " The bimetallism arose. "Mr. Chairman , " he said , "I think it Is well that wo here determine the scope of this Inquiry. I , for one , desire the restora tion of silver as redemption money the world over. I want It Interchangeable with gold the world over. I want 11 Interchangeable with gold on a basis of actual , intrinsic value. While I concede that the larger use of It will add to Its Intrinsic value , I wish to avoir any confusion of silver coinage with the Issue of flat paper , the quantity of which must ba regulated wholly by congress and be an open Issue at elections. General Weaver is an advocate of flat money. He docs not believe In redemption money at all. Ho can not tlnceroly believe In the use of silver as money ; for why should any people toll to dig metal from the earth when a scrap of paper will serva the same purpose , If General Weaver favors the use of silver at all , the less Intrinsic value there 1 ? In It the better for his consistency. I think It will only confuse the Issue to have him and Ills flat Ideas In our discussion. " Coin then addressed the chair. "I have found General Weaver n very vigorous worker In the cause for whlcli I nm laboring , and whatever his view * on flat money may bo , ho has a right to them , and I think he ought to have a hearing. " "Nobody questions General Weaver's right to his opinion , " said the blmetalllst , "but I decline to recognize him as n friend ol silver. Nine-tenths of the frso silver agitators , like him , are only masquerading ns sliver men for the purpose of dividing the forces of honest money. 1 will not know ingly recognize any of them as suitable or sincere champions of an honest silver dollar. In fact , they throw suspicion on tha Integrity of the whole movement. " Coin's faca colored , and lie looked like a person under suspicion , but said nothing more , and General Weaver was unanimously voted out. "Now. " said the chairman , "I believe we are ready for business. " Coin was already on his feet and began to address the meeting. "Ladles and Gentlemen : In seventeen hun dred and " "One moment , please , " said n voice. A QUESTION OP TODAY. It was our friend , the traveling man , whom wo first mot In the hotel some weeks previous and to whose earnest deelro to sift the truth from error thin meeting was due. "There may have been something done In the labt century of Interest on this question , but what have seemed to mo to be the vital points are not so far distant. It Is claimed * I believe , that In 1S73 a radical change was made In our monetary system , by reason of which all property has been depreciating In value , and must continue to do so. The entire force and merit of Coin's argument centers In this decline of prices. If no t > uch loss as he describes hug In fact been suf fered there Is nothing to bo remedied. Thesa people are claiming that no general decline can be shown In farm products as marketed In this locality , anil that the position of the western farmer > l s greatly Improved since 1873. Now , I would like jou to meet them at once on that point , for If they are right my Interest In tlio whole question becomes very much less acute. I don't want to get lost In a nmzo of theories nitd charges and itailstlcs covering 100 years , und finally loava here without getting what I came tor. I Ueg pardon for the Interruption , but It you can first show these people how much their c-tijjtlon has chaiiged for the worse since Iii3 1 will guarantee that they will listen attentively tc > why It has grown worse. Wlmt have you to say to this farmer's state ment that corn was o cheap In Iowa In 1ST. ! nnd 1S73 that It was burnel for fuel ? " I would prefer to taku up the various pauses of tlils question In my regular order , " EJ. d Coin , "but PS I always Invite questions , I will not decline lo answer this. I scarcely need to do more , however , than refer you to page 110 ot 'Coin's rinancl.il School , ' which records my reply to a similar question by Mr. Hcnrotln. The ooni crap cf Illinois , for 1&72. which controlled the price until the next crop was In sight , was 217,02.000 bushels , while the crop of Illinois in 1S93 was only 100.550. < 70. The Chicago prices In 1873 anil In ISO ! were about the same , lint with the reduced crop ot 1832 , and Increased ix-puUtltu , the price xhoutd have been much higher. As I zild to Mr. Heurotln I say now ; Overproduc tion account * for the low price In 1873 , and the gold standard account * for the low price In JS93. la that eufflclentT" And the dipper little fellow walled , with a ! nun , looking first to the farmer and then to .he blmetalllst. The farmer looked a little dazed. "Do you say , " ha stammered , "that the corn crop of 1S72 was greater than the corn crop of 1SD3 ? How can that bo ? Iowa was scarcely more than half farmed in 1872. and Nebraska anil Kansas barely opened. There s some catch about that. " Coin moved uneasily , but said nothing. The blmetalllst arose with a smile. TUICKS OF THE SILVER ADVOCATE. "Ho did not say the corn crop cf the United States was greater In 1872 than In 1803. Ho said the crop of Illinois. " "Oh , " said the farmer , his face clearing cf perplexity , but lining with disgust , "why should a man write such a foal thing as that ? The crop ot Illinois don't make the price ; it s the crop of the whole country. " Coin's dapper smirk had gone. "Tho corn crop of the United States In IS72 , " said the blmetalllst , "was 1,092.719,000 bushels , and In 1893. 1,619,496,131 bushels , or about 50 per cent greater. Ilut while the Chicago quotations were about the same In the two years , there was a great difference In favor of 1893-94 to the farmers. The crop of 1S72 could not bo moved at the price. It was almost unsalable. In this part of Iowa It was worth only 12 % and 15 cents a bushel at the railroad stations. I hold In my hand the re port of the Iowa State Agricultural society for 1873 , which says ( page 10) ) of the crop of the previous year , 'untold quantities were burned for fuel , being cheaper than wood or coal at any rpasonablo rate. ' On tha other hand the crop of 1893 brought the fanners about 25 cents n bushel at the market towns this distance from Chicago. Is that sufficient as to the corn crops of 1872 and 1893 ? " It was evidently sufficient for Coin. The starch was out of his collar ; his knee pants disclosed his trembling limbs ; all the assurance - anco was gene from his face ; his lips were dry and he seemed unable to speak. There was a dead silence In the hall. Coin's attempt to establish his theory by the corn crop of one state , which produced only one-tenth of the whole crop , appeared so weak , after it was exposed , that the audi ence viewed him almost with pity. His argument had been reversed against himself. The traveling man was the first to ipeak , and ho addresseJ hli remark to Coin : "Have I brought you all the way from Chicago to be knocked out In the first round ? How did you ever come to compare the crops of Illinois instead of the crops of the whole country ? Of course the crop of Illinois does not alone make the price. Why , Iowa raised 230,000,000 bushels In 1S93 , when you quote the Illinois crop of 160,000,000 as fix ing the price. Great heavens , boy ! If that Is the way your case Is made out you had better go back to Chicago. I think you are done for here , anyway. ' " Coin finally pulled himself together enough to say that ho had evidently made a mis take in taking the statistics of Illinois In- btcaj of the whole country. The chairman , Judge Dlrdsell. looked gravely over his spectacles and said : "Wo trust , young man , that it was wholly a mistake. Do you wish to say any more upon this point ? If not , we will consider it closed by your admission that the farmers of Iowa had more profit from the corn crop of 1893 than from the corn crop of 1872. Coin gasped and sparred for breath. Ho could not , must not , admit that. "Wo must have something more than hear say testimony , " ho said. "Furthermore , why do you select these particular years ? And why do you select corn ? You ralso something bsdes ! corn out hero , don't you ? " ho said , regaining his spirits somewhat , as ho thought of a possible escape , "and you raised corn In other years , did you not ? ' "Wo compared 1873 and 1S94 , " said the blmetalllst In Icy tones , "because you had -.n explanation for thosa years/ Coin chlvered. "Ilut , " said the blmetalllst , continuing , "I can give you the price of corn In Dca Molncs , the capital of the etate , for other years. From page 10 of the report of the Iowa State Agricultural society for 1S" . ' I rcid the following : " PRICE OF CORN IN DES MOINES. Deoember , December. December , 1STO. JS71. W2. JO.S5 JO.L'I HUG Again there was a silence. Finally the blmetalllst continue. ! : "On page 23 I find the following figures , showing prices of other products for every month in 1873 : Jan. Keb. Mar. Apr. May June Wheat } a S3 SI 10 { 100 S ! 00 1110 Jl 10 lt > Si J3 33 S3 43 : ' ) , Hurley I' ) 45 45 45 45 4) Cum 14 17 IT IS 22 i } O.tls 0 0 SO 20a SS iiay cw ceo coo coo coo c 01 Jul. AUB. Sept. Oct. Nov. Dec. 1Vlie.it $ J Si jaw { 075 (075 JOT' , JO 8 > Uye 33 35 45 45 40 44 Hurley M 60 70 70 70 Corn 20 M 22 23 Si 22 0.ltH 20 20 7 2T 20 23 HJ > - 00 5(0 500 500 SCO 500 Again the blmetallist paused for remarks. "With the single exception of wheat , " he said , " all these prices are not only below present prices In DCS Molnes , but below the avenge prices of the past five years. " Everybody looked to Coin , but that Indi vidual hid a hunted look In Ills face that dis missed all thought ? of an attack from that quarter. The b'.inetalllst ' continued : "I tlnd on page 18 of this book a report of the hogs packed for the reasons of 1871-72 and 1S72-73 at the following places In Iowa : Illevuc , Birmingham , Bloomflcld , Burllng- lon , Cedar Uaplds , Council Blurts. Davenport , Decorah , Doa Molnes , Uubuque , Eastptrrt , Eddyvllle , Farmlngton , Fort Madison , Glen- wood , Hamburg. Iowa City , Keokuk , Mc Gregor , Muscatlne , Oskaloosa , Ottumwa , Sa- bula. Sioux City. Waverly , WInterset. "You would think , would you not , Mr. Coin , that the average price paid for the hogs packed by all these houses , some on the eastern border ot the state and some on the western , would bo a fair criterion ot the price of hogs during these years T" nut Coin was past denying or admitting. "The average price per hundred weight by then establishments for their hogs In the season ot 1871-73 was $3,74 , and In the Beaten ot 1872-73 , $3.G2. Out ot these prices came the freights and profits to local buyers. Thcie figures are below the average price ot hogs In any elate today tor the last five yean. " "You don't teem to check ( bete people a little bit , " tali ] the traveling mm to Coin. 'Do you admit ill these things to be true ? irnilnet * ofthe your whole argument from the decline of prices Is destroyed. If you have anything to say now Is the time to say It. " "I took my statistics , as everybody does who writes on such subjects at a distance , from the New York markets. I couldn't look up local markets , " raid Coin. "Ilut don't you know that freight rates are declining , so that prices might be less In the cantral markets and still yield as much as the farmers ? " Coin brightened up for a moment , as though ho had struck the thread of the discourse. "Of course , " he said , "freight rates have declined. The gold standard made them de cline. " WHY FREIGHT HATES ARE LOWER. "Oh , come now , " said Judge Ulnlsell , "do you mean to claim that with steel track , better engines hauling twice 23 many cars to a train as formerly , and doing a far greater volume cf business , there Is no way to ac count for a decline In rates except by charg ing It to the gold standard ? Ushould think freight charges ouijht to be less than form erly. If they were not , I would say there was outrageous robbery. " "t will admit that. " slid Coin. "You might as well admit everything , young fellow , " said the traveling man. "That Is your whole case. The same progress has been maile In every line of Industry as well as In railroading , and If you admit that rail road rates are legitimately and properly lower you must admit that the same cause has a natural nnd legitimate effect when It reduces other charges. Why , every time one day's labor Is saved from a ton of pig Iron the price legitimately falls that much It Is no longer In the cost , and It ougl.t not to i be In the selling price. Why , now 1 look at i It , I believe you have left science , dis < covery nnd progress entirely out ot your ; heory. You ara here lo argue that ai 80 CCNTJ iw III ) . ON T a mm article ought to cost as much now ns It dl < thirty or forty years ago , and that If 1 doesn't something is wrong. Why , my boy you must get In line with the ngo better than that. " The whole nudlence was smiling at till friendly chiding , but Coin evidently did no enjoy It. "Coin Is probably the only person In th world , " said the blmetalllst , "who thinks tha nails nnd pig Iron ought to sell for ns mud now as In 1859. Why , an Iron worker It 1859 would hardly know an iron mill In 1895 , and the dismantled blast furnaces o northern New York show how far they wcr behind the modern ones. " "I must say , " continued the traveling man "that unless It can be shown that tha labo In a given article has been reduced in pa we ought to welcome any reduction in price Can't we have some light on how labor 1 faring ? " "I can tell you something , " said a vole In the audience. "I came to this country from England In 1854 , a carpenter by trade I struck Chicago and worked at my trad there for $1.25 per day ; No class of labo has declined since then , but I can tell yo something that has declined. When I wa ro about ns , follows : Engineers , 3.7 to 4 ents , per mltei firemen , 2.2 to 2.5 cents per nllo ; freight brakcmen , $52 to $60 per month ; aggagemen , J$50J and $55 ; passenger con- uctors , $100-la.jl20 ; freight conductois , $63 0 $85 ; section laborers , 1214 cents per hour. Engineers nfcll'.flremen ' ore guaranteed a ilnlmum of 2,600 miles per month , nr.d aid for excess : - "How do thesq compare with tha wages " ' f 18727" "Wages naif 'Average some higher by the ay rolls thanilnjl872. " "You seem , to , think the condition of rail- oad employes Is Ideal , " sneered Coin. "Rail- oad men wexa uot all of that opinion last car. " "You havo'no'right to put words Into my mouth , " said the engineer. "We are compar- ng the condlon ( { of wage workers now with ormer times. I nm satisfied that It has not > een growing worse since 1859 or 1S73. I lope It will crow better and that they will not cease to organize nnd agitate to make It better , lint when I consider that clothing , no-it groceries , furniture , carpets , building naterlnl , musical Instruments and In fact everything except what comes from our armors , is so much cheaper than formerly , I am sure u man who has regular wages Is nuch better off now than then. It is true lint the last eighteen months have been blue ones for railroad men the country over. They are not doing so well as three or four years ngo. Wages have been cut and large lumbers are laid off or working on short line. Ilut I don't think we want to lose our heads , nnd say somebody Is conspiring to lo It , for I think mighty few people arc linking any money out of It. I don't believe .hat something done twenty-two years ngo ins caused It. I believe that If they would quit talking so much about the finances there would bo less the matter with them. " "You talk about goods being cheaper , " said Coin. "That Is Just what I claim. The irlce of everything produced by labor Is aclng crowded down. Gold has a laiger command of all these products. " LABOR BETTER PAID THAN EVER. "I don't see how that hurts me , " said the engineer , "so long as my labor commands as much gold ns ever. " The audience smiled at the apt reply. "You have got to prove to the wage worker that these declines are coming out of him , " said the engineer , "before you can expect him to argue that cheaper goods are a bad thing. It hasn't hurt me any , that I can see , to have the freight rate on the Northwest ern road go from 2.35 In 1873 down to 1.42 in 1892. My wages are ns good as under the old rate , and to the extent that I buy goods 1 am benefited. Certainly It has been of great general benefit. Do you wont me to mourn because I can buy a clothes wringer for $2.50 that In 1873 cost $7 , or because I can shoe my family for one-third less money ? I can't control my feelings to that extent. " And the engineer sat down amid the laughter of the nudlence , which was evidently li ; sympathy with his views. "I know something about wages In Chicago In 185'J , " said an elderly gentleman , rising , "My name ID Jonathan Clark , and my home Is still In Chicago. I came to Chicago In 1818 and began work for C. II , McCo"rmlck at $10 per month and board. In 1853 I began business as a builder. Throughout the 50s I paid my foreman $1.75 per day and other carpenters $1.25 to $1.50 per day. Masons were the best paid mechanics then , as now they got $3 per day. Mechanics' tools cos more then than now. The common price for day labor , down to war times , was 75 cents to $1. " . „ "How aboutliving expenses ? " "All manufuclurpd goo's were higher than In recent yeqrs. .Calico was 10 and 12 cents a yard , and .all dress goods proportionately woolens 'were higher , furniture was mucl higher. U you ) bought as goad as nr-st peopli buy now ; carpsts uero out of reach ; hardwnr was much higher ; glass was much higher Meat was cheaper In the city than of bt yens ; sugar anil molasses ccst moro then than now ; flour was'ibdut ' the same ; kerosene wa not in usa ; rents' -were lower , of courfo , In " ' ' ' Chicago. "Could a ma'p of small means build a hous of his own as'cheaply now as then ? " "Leaving la.bor and land out of the account ho could build tlio same house for much lesi than then , nut ho would have to pay mor for the ground' ' and , for the labor. " "I was sclllnp.figoiU in 1859 and 1860 , " sail a gentleman , rising , "la a small Iowa town , t the country t'gade. " "What town , and what U your present lew tlnn ? " "This Is Mr. O. Sang , a salesman for the J. A FREE SILVER FALLACY. getting $1.25 a day for my pay my wife had to pay 10 cents a yard for calico no better than I can buy now for 5. " "I can tell you something , " said another. "In 1860 I was a porter In a hardware store In Utlca , N. Y. , at $1.50 a week. Same Job now pays $9 per week. "I remember , " said a young man , "a particular man who often worked for my father by the day In Dubuque county , this state , In the 60s and 70s. He got $1.25 per day. That was common pay for day labor In a country town. Now I can get no day labor at less than $1.60 par day. " "I know what railroad employes got In 1859 , " said the locomotive engineer who had been present at the hotel discussion. "I have been looking It up since our talk of two weeks ag . I went Into the general ofllces of our road , the Chicago & Northwest ern , and examined the old pay rolls. While I suppose the officials would not want to be bothered by dally applicants , I. have no doubt a committee representing any body of railroad men would b ? given the same lib erty that I had. I went back to 1830 because Coin refers to that year. I copied the follow ing from the pay roll ot July. The man se lected from each class of employes received no more than the others In his class : I'UOM C. & N.V. . ItAILAVAY I'- _ I I Name. Cl s. Uayeltate | Total Krnnk 1'leice , engineer sw ; suoo John Hover , fireman 21 i S3 31 23 John llartlcim. slnllonnrj- eng 21mo 3) ) UO 1'ntrk-k McDonald , wntchnun. 31 75 r. n Trod I'hlllinlre , cur irimlier. . . 1 ! 5 u n A. A , Ilnbntt , pans , cuuiluclor. memo 75 00 J"hn Hull. baKKUKcman memo M 0) Thomas Murray , brnkrmin. . . . memo 3) Oi ) A. Mcl'iiinbrMKv. freight con. . memo S > 0) ) H. U. Clark , trav. intent. N. U mo W Ol ) Michael llucklty , sec. laborer. . 8) 19 CO "What do theje men get now ? " asked Coin , "and how many are laid off or worked halt time ? " "As to the number laid oft and out of work , " said the engineer , "we all know that It varies with the amount of business to be done , and always did. Last year crops In the west were very light on account of the drouth , and the railroads have not so much grain to haul. Good times , when factories are running and everybody buying goods freely , are certainly the hot times for rall- rotd men , and ilio for railroad owners , and , It Beams to me , tor everybody. The only lloa l how to get them. Tbe present V. Farwoll company , Chicago , " said Mr. Mil ler. "We , In the country , told standard prints In these years , " Mid Mr. Sang , "at 1C cents per yard. This was for Mcrrlmack and standard gcods. Wamsutta was as low as 12 cents Standard sheeting was about the same , six yard for $1. Kentucky Jeans , CO cents per yard , now about 32 % ; Monson's satinets were largely sold at 75 cents per yard , now out of the market , but similar goods are not over half that prlco ; merinos were a common line of goods sold at'45 to 50 cents per yard , better goods have taken 'their place at 12V4 to 15 cents per yard. ) T'thlnk the decline runs In about that proportion through the stock ot a dry goods elore. " OLD WAH TIME PRICES. "If you are polne back to before the war , " said a substantial Booking gentleman , rising , "I can tell you , that the year I was 17 years old I worked on a , farm for $84 for the year , doing a full man's work. I remember that during at least. a part of that year oats told at 13 cents ai.busbel and dressed pork at 2 cents a pound.iA6d ' that was not out west , but In Monroa dunty. New York. " "What Is ytnin name and present postofllce address ? " asked tbe chairman. "E. A. Lynd , Oowrle , la. " "I think we want these figures , " said the chairman. "I 'notice ' that on the same page with Coin's reply to Mr. Henrotln ( Coin winced ) he asserts that prices were not as low In 1859 , or before the war , as they are now. " "Don't forget In that connection , " said the Wright county farmer of former acquaintance , "that I hauled dressed begs from hero to Dubuque , 198 miles , before the war and sold them there at $1.50 per hundredweight. " "What Is your name and address ? " "Thomas Flaherty , Fort Dodge , la. " "I can contribute some experiences In that line. " said another man , rising. "What ta your name and address ? " "W. V. Manchester , Ilurnslde , la. " "What U your experience ? " "I hauled wheat from my farm In Webster county to Marengo. Iowa county , In January , 1862. 150 miles , and sold It for 45 cents per bushel. Took me two weeks to make one trip. " These spontaneous contributions from men who bad actually experienced the "good times" gone by greatly stimulated the In- lookoJ on as n spectator whom subsequent proceoJIngs would Interest more. The blmotalllst arose and held up n book which ho said was a copy of the report of the Iowa State Agricultural society tor the year 1859. Ho continued : "I have the report of the. State Agricul tural society from 1859 down to this time. The earlier reports are not so complete In Its record of prices ns the latter ones were mado. There was no systematic effort at first to recorJ priced , but they are often re ferred to In the review of the secretary anJ the reports of the county secretaries. In 1859 the secretary of the Jefferson County Agricultural society , nlthough he referred to the grcnt boon which that county possessed In n railroad , writes as follows about farm profits : " 'Oats are felling at 25 cents per bushel. Will not average halt a crop. " 'Corn will bo an abundant crop. But what will our crcp avail us ? Just now It connot find a cash market at 20 cents * a bushel. Many small lot ? have been sold at 25 cents , but there nre no buyers who will take up enough to make an appreciable sen sation upon the pockets of the farmers , or anything like a marked Impression upon the aggregate Indebtedness ot the corn owners.1 " "Oh , " said Coin , "you have happened to catch me on ono year , when there was n big corn crop. How nbout the next year ? " "Well , hero If the next year. In the re port for I860 Secretary Shaffer writes , on page 382 : " 'Wo can oay nothing satisfactory as to corn. Wo can call the crop vast , immense , umrioasured , etc. , but that Is all. " 'All the cereals escaped the blast and mildew of previous years ; for example , eaU sold at 50 cents ta $1 for seed. After harvest they were steadfastly refused at 15 centf. " 'These Items are extmnely unsatisfactory , and no reader can possibly regret it more than the writer. ' " "The secretary for Keokuk county says ( page 387) ) : " 'Corn Is the leading article proluccd , and U most relied on for a sure return , although It Is now selling at but 15 cents per bushel , and will not command cash at that. ' " "Those reports , " said Coin , "show for themselves that there was an overproduction In those years. " "Oh , " said the blmetalllst , "stick to your proposition , that prlcss were not so low In 1859 , or before the war , as now. Don't begin to explain already why your positive statements > monts are untrue. If supply and demand controlled prices then that law may have something to do with them now. What do you have to say about the next year , 1801 ? " "I know that pig Iron was higher than now , " said Coin , seeking to shift the field of Inquiry. In the report of 1861 the secretary , on page 102 , saya that corn Is refused at 10 cents per bushel of seventy-five pounds , and that potatoes are abundant at 20 cents per bushel. What do you know about 1862 ? " I don't know anything about them , " said Coin. AUTHORITATIVE EVIDENCE ABUNDANT "Well , these are official figures. The re ports of this society are the best evidence obtainable as to the condition of farmers in this state In these years. Hefore you gave way to hypo'chondrla over the declining con dition of the farmers you ought to have looked up their condition In former years. In the report for 1862 , page 243 , the secre tary says that wheat has not been a re munerative crop for some years. On page 245 he states that cattle buyers are quite numerous at Falrfleld ( his home ) and prices are not remunerative. 'The price of dressed hogs , ' he says , 'Is now $2 per cwt. ' " "I will venture , " said the blmetalllst , paus ing for a moment , "that the price of live hogs has averaged mora than double that figure In Falrfleld for the last year , and the last five years. And what a difference to a farmer In the amount of store goods his hogs will buy ! What do you guess as to 1863 ? " ho added , to Coin. "I don't know about hogs , " said Coin , "but I know that nails were higher than now. " The audience laughed derisively. "Well , 1863 carries us pretty well Into the war , " said the blmetalllst , "store goods had felt the advance caused by paper money , but Secretary Shaffer attributes the higher prices of that year to a short crop. He says that wheat for that year was below an average crop. 'The price , ' he says , 'at this writing Is 75 to SO cents ; last year ZO to 40 cents ( page 416) ) . On the same page ho says that in consequence ot the partial failure , 'prices of all provisions rule much higher than a year ago. Flour $3.50 , last year $2.50 ; po tatoes $1 , last year 20 to 25 cents ; onions hard to get at $2 , last year 50 cents ; corn 50 cents , last year 15 cents ; pork $3.50 , last year $2.25 ; apples 50 cents , last year 20 to 40 cents for selected , etc. ' " "In this report the Polk county secretary says of corn : 'This great staple article , I am sorry to report , is almost n failure this year. The market price Is now 30 to 40 cents per bushel , as against 12 to 20 cents last fall. ' " "In the report for the next year , 1864 , we strike the booming prices of what Is called the war period , although the war began three years previous and was nearly over. In the report for this year we find an address de- 1 vered by Hon. John F. Dillon , before the Union Fair , held by Scott , Clinton , Cedar , Jones nnd Jackson counties , at Wheatland , September 9 , 1861. On page 114 he makes an estimate of the possible Income from eighty acres of land In that year as follows : 30 bushels barley , 30 bushels per acre , "M bukhels nt $1.0) per bushel $1,123 JO acres of whcnt. 2i > bushels per acre , COO bushels nt $1.70 i > or bushel 1.020 21 acres of corn , 40 bushels per acre , 8')0 ' bushels at 70 cents per bushel . + Mil Total J2.705 "There , " said Coin , rallying desperately , "what have you to say to those prices ? They show what an abundance of money will defer for the farmer. " "Don't interrupt me In the middle of the speaker's remarks , " said the blmetalllst. "Walt until you hear how ho congratulates them. " Mr. Dillon continued to say : I congratulate you upon the Improved condition under which you , ns a clnsn , are nble to prosecute your calling. Take , for Instance , the matter of agricultural Imple ments , the planter , the mower , the reaper , the threshing machine. These mark a noble epoch In farming , nnd that era Is contem porary with you. You are the most prosperous class In the community. You Imve scarcely felt the touch of war , except ns you hnvo been called upon to send , anil It may be to sac rifice , a son or brother In the cause and In dcfensu of your country and Its Hag. Prices of articles which you buy have , It Is true , Kreatly advanced with lulte or almost equal step. With n bushel of wheat or bar ley you can buy ns much , taking all things together , as In 1SGO. "Now , that. " said the blmetalllst , "Is not what I would call very enthusiastic congrat ulation upon Bivch booming prices. Apparently the speaker did not have the courage to assure - sure bis audience that they were better off under these prices than In I860. " "You don't say anything about live stock , " said Coin. "I am waiting for you to suggest what you want , " said the blmetalllst. "I am hero to accommodate you. The Illackhawk county secretary reports about 2,000 head of beef cattle sold from that county during 18G1 , at an average price of about $15 per lic-ad ; also , that about 13,000 cheep had been brought Into the county from Michigan , Ohio and Wisconsin at an average of about $1.75 per head. " "In the 1865 report , Lee county reports hogs worth 10 cents per pound. Dubuque county : Price of spring wheat after harvest , $1 ; winter wheat , $1.25 ; corn , 25 cents ; oats during navigation to St. Louis , 25 cents ; after navigation closed , 15 centt ; average price of good beef cattle for the seaion In Dubuque for shipment to the Chicago market , C cents on foot. Jefferson county layi that wheat Is poor In quality and will not grade for shlpnunt : corn , average for year , 40 cents ; oats , 20 cents ; cattle , 3 and 4 cents. Marshall county sayi , wheat worth SO centi to $1 ; horses , average for three yean , $150 , army and home demand taking all surplus Floyd county sayi. buyeri have been paying 7 to 9 cents for hogs and 3 to 4 cents for erly , terminus ot Cedar Falls & Minnesota railroad. " "Thero Is one thing you will be com PC II oil to admit , whether you want to or not , " said Coin , "nnd that Is that hogs wcro bringing a mighty good price In those days. " WHAT AFFECTS FARM PRICES. "Thoro are several reasons , " said the bt- metalllst , "why hogs brought so good n prlco for several years there. One of these reasons was that the country , cither through the drain to supply the army , or some other cause , had been stripped ot hogs , In fact , the United States agricultural report for 1865 ( printed In 1S6C ) shows less live stock ot all kinds In the country , January 1 , 1866 , than In 1860. Hogs had fallen from 17,383,629 to 13.6ln.87C ; cattle , from 13.599,880 to 12.674. . 968 ; horses , from 4,287,126 to 3,899,019. The law of supply and demand , which always asserts Itself , was under the market of these years. "In the 1866 report Secretary Shaffer r < s cords wheat at $1.75 ; corn , 35 cents ; oats , 23 cents ; hogs , $5 to $6 per cwt. " "Those were good prices , " Interjected Coin. "Corn crop cut short by frost , " continued the reader. "Had the frost been one month later the crop would have been Doubled , re ducing It In price , and yet proving more remunerative. "Tha 1867 report shows prices still boom- Ing. Wheat about as In 1866 ; corn about 5o cents ; cattle nnd hogs , 5 to 6 cents. "In 1SCS prices had slumped badly. On page 403 , at the Mississippi river , spring wheat Is quoted at SO cents ; fall wheat nt $1.10 ; corn , 25 to 30 cents ; oats , 30 to 35 cents. "In the 1870 report the secretary for Leo county , which had the advantage of river transportation , says wheat Is worth SO cents to $1. "Tho 1871 , 1S72 and 1873 figures I have already given 7011. "In the 1873 report ( page 381) ) Is given an abstract of an address delivered by Charles II. Rogers at the Harrison county fair. The following Is an extract : Proud of these aspects and of her progress 150 MILES TO A RAILROAD PRICE AT STATION , 45 CENTS PER I1USHEL. in practical agriculture still the condition of this laboring man ami farmer Is far from what IH desirable. They Imve worked , watched and wnlteil for un adequate re ward until wcsulnp'H lias well nigh turned to hopelessness. Farming has been a finan cial failure for the past threu years. Hunl toll has opened up line farms nnd brought to the bins tbe products of unexampled harvests , but the pales have hardly paid the expenses and bought cheap clothing until tlio coming' harvest. There Is no surplus to improve building" , purchase thoroughbred stock nnd furnish tbe homo with any of the luxuries of urt anil litera ture. "Thero , " said the blmetalllst , as he closed the last book , and Coin aroused slightly from a comatose state , "no have had a hasty glance backward over the years when wo are supposed to have been better off than now , and have had a gllmpso of conditions from which wo are said to have fallen. The great staples of the farm all had their fluctuation ? , but at times they all went lower than they arc now , while the average of all Is not above the average of recent years. And we should never lose sight for an Instant of the re duced expense with which these crops are now produced by modern machinery and the great reduction In the cost of the farmcr't supplies. " I would like to ask a question , " said Mr. Homer Miller , ono of the leading citizens' ' ol Eagle drove. "Certainly , " said the blmetalllst. "Coin's theory , " said Mr. Miller , "Is that the bullion value of silver will purchase as much corn , wheat , oats , par ! : , etc. , now as at any time In the past. Are not those figures from the Agricultural society's re ports In paper money ? " "They aro. " And If those prices were reduced to ex changeability with silver bullion they would bo greatly reduced , would they not ? " WAR PRICES ON PAPER BASIS. "Certainly , " said the bimetallism , smiling. "In January , 1865 , gold was worth from 1U7 to 265 and sliver was worth more than that , so that all the quotations of 1865 must be reduced more than one-half to arrive at the equivalent In silver dollars. Even the quo tations of 1873 must be reduced 15 per cent to get them to a silver basis , where Coin challenges comparison , whllo the prices ot 1895 must be doubled to get them on that basis. This would give us corn In Des Molnes In 1873 about 14 cents and In 181)5 ) about 90 cents , or wheat In Des Molnes In 1873 about SO cents and In 1895 about 90 cents. Hogs in Des Molncs In 1873 about $3 and in 1895 about $9. " Our friend , the traveling man , bestirred himself again. "This Is a Hood , " ho said to Coin. "It seems to me that your whole case Is In danger. You have used the decline of nrlces as your main argument , and It Is quite clear that there has been no genera ! decline In farm products In these primary markets. " "Thero Is no use arguing that point will these people , " said Coin. "They are proba bly correct as to prices here , but their case is exceptional. They lacked transportation facilities and were distant from market. But with farmers farther cast It Is different. " "I don't know about that's helping your case , " said the traveling man , doubtfully. If transportation facilities have brought new competitors into the market against the east ern farmers , and made prices lower , I don'i sco that the cold standard can bo chargei with It. It Is a natural Influence , a leveling of conditions. The west has practically been moved eastward , benefiting It , and to BO nit extent , no doubt , damaging these with whom It competes. " "These people are Inconsistent , " said Coin " claim that but farm "They everything pro ducts and labor have declined. It Is un reasonable to suppose that they shouli escape when all else Is influenced. The same cause which affects everything else must af fect farm products and labor. " Will you permit mo to explain that ? ' said the blmetall.st. "Labor does'not decline , because the de mand for It Increases rather than slackens as civilization progresses. The more we have , the more wo want. There Is no stop ping point. The richer the world becomes the more use It has for labor. It costs n great deal less money to build a given house today than It did twenty-flvo years ago , bu wo are not content to build the old house at the reduced price. Wo build a bettei house and put more labor Into It than wo dli Into the old ono. " Farm products have not generally de cllned , except as prices have been Influencei by changes In transportation , because there U a limit to the land available. Land am labor are the chief elements In the cost o farm products , and while the amount of la bar used Is constantly being reduced tlio re ductlon has not overcome the opposing In fluences. With the most commodities there Is a constant and rapid downward tendency In cost , because the amount of labor In then Is contlnualy being reduced , and all the prl mary materials are being cheapened. A stove Is cheaper than formerly because the ere In mined with less labor , transportci with less labor , smelted with less labor am less fuel , cast In the foundry with less labor and hold with less profit. With thousands of eager competitors studying : to excel cacl other these savings and this downward ten dcnt-y are Inevitable. It Is the way of de velopment "One who reads these old agricultural re ports Is Impressed by the difficulties which * utrounded the farmers then and were the subjects of their discussions at their society meeting * . One great problem was the fenc Ing. wh cli has been solved by the Invention and cheapening of barbed wire. Darbec wlrs was a great boon at 10 cents per pound but now It Is sold at 'Vi cents. Another was to get a plow that would scour In the heavy lotm ot these western states. Tha trouble has gone and the plows are cheapened besides. Another was to get the help to take care of the grain fields as they ripened. The self-binder disposed at that and of all their wages as well , nnd costs leis than the old reaper. It would require volumes to relate the benefits that have come by cheapening the methods of production , all to bo written down at last by the new school of finance under the head of calamities , There never practice of first getting up a theory And af terwnrd looking tor the facts to support 4'Coln doesn't scorn nt ICIs best today , " said the traveling man , "but I would llko someone ono to tell mo how It Is about debts and In terest. On pngo 122 of the report of his school ho says the Interest , except In cities on first-class loans , Is about ns high as In 1873. " "Permit mo to answer thnt , " said n gen tlemen , rising. "This Is Mayor Granger , ot our neighbor ing city , Fort Dodge , " snld the chairman. INTEREST RATE HAS FALLEN. "Twenty years ngo , nnd oven less , " said Mr. Granger , " 10 per cent was the lowest rnto of Interest known here. Ono per cent n month was regular nt the banks , nnd 'shaves' and 'commissions' wcro common. As Into as 1880 our county and city paid 3 ier cent for money , but both hnvo since sold per cent bonds nt n premium. At least three Important eastern life Inaurnnco companies have agencies. In our city to loan their money nt C and 7 per cent. Interest rates hnvo declined 40 per cent since 1873. " "I think It time , " snld the chairman , "to ilr.iw this phase of the discussion to a closo. The question whether farm values have de clined and nro on n permanent down grade by reason of our monetary system has been made by Coin the front nnd body of his theory , nnd 'It should theiuforo bo thoroughly , examined. But I think It Is thoroughly demolished , nnd that wo may pass on to other features of the silver question. Have you anything moro to say , sir. " addressing Coin , "lo support your theory that farm pr ducts have suffered a decline and thnt ufnctured stapled should decline ? " 'All I care to say now , " bald Coin , "Is thnfl I can prove that the silver dollar was cstnb-J llshed ns a unit of value in 1792 , that the standard was secretly changed in 1873 , and thnt silver Is the true standard nnd meaa-i ure todny. There Isn't gold enough in thol world to do Its business , and the result ot ] the gold standard must bo a contraction ofl values " , which Is constantly unjust to debt-J ors. "You nro laying down n great many gcn-j oral propositions , " said the chairman. "Wo had better take up ono nt a time. " IDEAL STANDARD OF VALUB. "Ono word more , " said the blmctalllst. | Before wo leiivu this question of prices and debts and the comparative burden of a given ] debt In 1873 and now , I would llko to say just a little moro. The Ideal standard of value Is the productive value of manual labor. ) Wo can only approximate to It In our monetary - ] tary standard , but can keep It In sight nndl know when wo nro leaving It. If a man borrow n given amount of money It Is'essen tial to justice that when ho conies to pay It tlio sum shall represent the snmo amount of labor and self-denial that It did when ho re ceived It. If this Is the case- the lender re ceives back the same days' works that ho ad vanced , plus the interest agreed upon , and the transaction Is as square and level as the exchange of work so common among j our farmers In harvest nnd threshing time. "If , when a $1.000 debt comes duo ns much as labor and self-denial are required to pay It as wcro required to create $1,200 when the debt was made , the borrower has lost $200 , nnd such n condition continuing would be disastrous to society. "What Is our condition In recent years as compared with twenty-five or thirty yearg ngo ? The most tangible and authoritative showing we have Is the senate report upbil wages and the cost of living , made In 1892J It was an exhaustive examination Into thpj condition of wage-workers. The report was nonpartlsan. It found that , comparing 1892 with I860 , and averaging the occupations , tin labor which would earn $100 In goods In 180i would earn $170 In goods In 1890. This I conclusive as to the comparative burden of debt In 1873 and naw , for debts are pal with what Is left from living expenses. " "I assert thnt where wages have advance they have been forced up by the organlzatlo : of unions , " said Coin. "Organization Is doubtless beneficial to nl classe-s , " said the blmetalllst , "but a unlor Is Ineffectual to advance or maintain wags unless the conditions ot business support It. No class of labor has secured a , greater per cent of advance in wages in the last forty years than the common farm hand or day laborer. Our problem Is not whether or not advances have been voluntary by em ployers , but whether , since 1873 they could stand them. We are not dealing here with disputes between employers and employed , but with conditions which are vital to both. " "Your statisticians are the tools of employ ers. How about the multitudes of Idle men , the Pullman strike , and all other strikes ct / ' 1891 ? Do you think If your statisticians report - / port an advance of wages In 1891 anybody ; I will believe them ? " \j "Mr. Coin , " said the blmetalllst , "this Is an Intelligent audience , and I advise you to address yourself to Its reason. The strij.es of the past year have been attributed to two causes , the greed of employers and the busl- n ss depression. The money system , which is the only subject In this debate , Is not responsible for greed , and If It Is responsi ble for business depression the employers nro as much Injured by It ns the employed. " PANICS PROVE PREVIOUS PROSPERITY. "Without entering hero Into any ot the other causes which are suggested ns con tributing to the revulsion of 1893 and 1894 , I will nssert that such revulsions usually furnish proof In themselves of an era of prosperity and expansion preceding. In times of prosperity , when money Is easy to borrow , and so many ventures are bringing profits , men become more sanguine , too venturesome , and overestimate values. Elderly men , who have had experience , will utter words of caution , but the young men will lough at tha 'old fellows who ore behind the times. By nnd by something happens to check the pace. Suspicion breeds. Confidence In values weakens. Men try to turn their property Into cash. Every man makes a rush for what U dus him , and then comes the collapse , In which no one will buy anything at any price. Eich feeH that he doesn't know what the right price Is. He will wait , nnd while ho ' waits there Is the stagnation which charac terized 1891. "When prices of commodities drop to cost of production the doors of the factories closa and wo have the sad spectacle of Idleness and want. When the store shelves nro ex hausted prices advance , ns they recently have In cotton goods , and the mills re open. Gradually there comes n feeling of confidence that bottom has been reached and that prices are ns low as they will get. Then capital flows out for Investment nnd ' > recovery begins. The lesson Is remembered . mf by every fellow who has been pinched , but twenty ycnrs from now the country will ba full of young money makers , who will need n whirl of their own. "Nobody dcslrrs such a condition ot affairs as we have had In the United States for tha past two years. It Is absurd to tell the people that anybody Is conspiring to make such n condition permanent. Nobody makes a profit on unemployed labor , Idle factories * " or empty buildings. Purge your remarlO and your books ot all such nonsense. DoeJ t your whole theory of money rest upon the business depression of two years ? If eo , It will vanish when prosperity returns , just an -i the greenback movement vanished when resumption - 4 sumption became an accomplished fact In I "If the net of 1873 has done all of this " * you ought to be able to show some of the effects In moro than two years of the twenty-two that have elapsed. "I am now willing to close this phase of the discussion and pass to any other that Coin may Indicate a desire to take up , but I suggest one thing at a time. " "I would llko to begin tomorrow , " said Coin , "with the cktabllshment of the silver dollar as the unit ot value In the United States. After 1 have proven that It was so established , I would llko to have somebody explain who had n right to disestablish It , and how It came that this silver dollar , It self the measure of value , came to ba measured by something else , " "If that la to be our subject tomorrow , " said the blmetallM- would like every body Who expects to bo present to do a little preliminary reading. I would especially like them to read Jefferson on the money unit , which fchows his views and advlco given when the matter of citabllih- Ing our coinage was first Under discussion ; also the recommendation of Robert Morrlu , the report of the committee on the money unit , and Urn famous report ot Alexander Hamilton , then secretary of the trcaiury , on the subject. It you have time for any more , read the reports of Crawford and Gallatln , later secretaries. " Th meeting then adjourned. ( onlHglmu. Washington Star ; "Now , Mr. " said th professor of medicine , "you may tell me ta what class of maladlci Insomnia belong ! . " "Why-er " replied tbe Indolent youth , "It's a contagious disease. " "I never heard It eo described. Whera did you learn ot thl J" "From experience. Whenever ray neigh * bor's dog can't sleep , I'm juit * wakeful u