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THE OMAHA DAILY BEE , THUBSDAYprDEOEMBER 18 , 1890-TWELVE PAGES. TRUTH RISES AGAIN. After Having Been Onuhod to Earth by Omaha's Defamon. E , HOSEWATER ON THE STATE ELECTION , * _ _ Eon , Church Howe Antagonized the Repub licans of Douglas County. THE BANKERS' ' AND BUSINESS MEN'S ASS'N It Performed its Work Without Aid from the Whisky Trust. NO POLITICS WITH NATURALIZATION. * Election Dajr AVns Bo Orderly That tlio Witness Itotlrcd at 4 O'clock * p. m. nnil Slept Until After Dnrlc. Tho" three-cornered contest over the guber natorial nnd state ticket which has been In progress In the city for several days was re sumed In the real cstatn exchange yesterday morning and continued throughout the day. The number of people in attendance was con fined , In the main , to these whoworo actively engaged in the work of the contest or who had been subpoanccd an witnesses. As soon as one of tbo latter had detailed before ono branch his experience on election day , ho was hustled to a second , and finally t * a third board to detail in different terms the story which he bad first recited. As on preceding days , the contestants sought In every way to malco it ap pear that Omaha on election day was at the mercy of a bloodthirsty mob. Their efforts , however , wore not rewarded , because It was made apparent through the testimony ot business men , professional gentlemen and divines , known throughout the country as well us throughout the state , that Omaha nnd no other city of its size , \\Mc1i has over voted on so Important a subject ns this city bad on November 1 last , had over witnessed so quiet and orderly an election. It was so quiet in deed that , at 4 o'clock in the afternoon , Mr. E. Kosewatcr ot THE BEE was encouraged to do what he had never done before on election day go home , go to bed and sleep until after 0 o'clock In the evening. The testimony in the several branches of the contest will bo found below , with the ex ception of that of Mr. Hosownter given before fore the contestant's notary , which will ap pear In tomorrow's BEK. Mr. Uosownter's testimony in the general ticket contest is ns follows : 'I think Tuesday night wo were on thosub- jcct of what occurred in the republican state convention , " said Mr. Allen. "Omaha , or Douglas county , had a representation in that convention of some sixty-nine dclecatcs. " Q. You may state if it is not true that the nomination of Mr. Richards occasioned \ cry Brcat ulasatlsfactloa upon the part of the ougliiH county delegation and very bitter expressions of denunciations ! A. The method by which Mr. Richards was nominated , and particularly the foisting upon the convention of Church Howe as chairman , brought on a great deal of bad feel ing in our delegation : we understood that Mr. Richards insisted on making Church Howe the chairman of that convention , and Church Howe's rulings were very offensive. The nomination itself was not regarded in that light ; as a matter of fact , after some llttlo time the delegation voted to make the nomination unanimous ; I think thcro were but two or thrco of our delegation that Q. Is It not true that in that convention very bitter speeches nnd remarks were made by members of the delegation from Douglas county I A. Yes. there wore some bitter speeches , but they nit tended to ono point , and that was Church Howe's method of handling the con vention. Q1 Did not these speeches ( to to the ex tent of threatening' the candidate that was nominated for governor ? - - - - iAThere was no reference made in the speeches to the candidates. Q. Wore they not denunciatory In char acter , and wore not tbo threats of the Omaha delegation that they would bo heard from horcaftorl A. No ; thero'woro two or three men Christ Spccht and Chnrllo Wohrcr and perhaps two others , 1 don't Just remember which , thcro wore sixty-nine of us and all present , that refused to make Richards' nom ination unanimous. They regarded Richards as favorable to prohibition , and the fact ol Church liowo being made chairman , anO Church Howa having forced through the pro hibition resolutions in the convention twc yean previous , was the cause ot all the racket that wo had there. O. Were there not speeches denunciator ; to Mr. Richards made by Mr. Mercer anc Gurloy , both before and after the nomiha tionl A. I think Mr. Mercer worked foi Richards secretly , and helped to nomlnato- Q. I am speaking of what occurred in the convention ? A. They made no attack oc Mr. Richards , but they did make attacks or Church Howe. Q. Isn't It also true that the dclccratlor from your county in that convention practl cally monopolized the conventionoccupied th < attention of the chairman and , olllccrs of th < convention 1 A. I was out of the convention the grcatci part of tha tlino with the committee on rcso lutlons and do not know wbat occurred dur ing-that time. Q. Isn't that true , Mr. Rosewater , aftoi you returned from tbo committee , nnd fron tha time you returned from the committei nnd made your report until the convcntloi finally adjourned ! A. The report of the committee brough on soi.io llttlo discussion because there wen two or three separate propositions that wen submitted , ana I myself occupied a part o the convention In urging the adoption of thi minority report. For instance , on the rose -Hullon on revenue I wa in favor of puttlni lumber , salt nnd coal on the free list , ant this part of the platform stood sovoi to eight , eight against and sovei for , ana I mudo & report for tha minority that occupied quite a little time , and ittai finally disposed of. Then they proceeded tc the nominations and there was considerable wrangling , but I think that the others , 01 well as the Douclas county dclcgatlon- nnturally they probably had moro talking material with them than tbo other delegates Q. Isn't It true that the only manifests Uous of feeling of hostility in that convcn tion was upon the part of the Douglas count ; delegation } A. I think there were some others , could name some ; there was a good deal a feeling In the Hitchcock county delegation Mr. Webster was lint proposed as th temporary chairman of the convention , am Mr. Richards paid no attention to him , or a least tried to rule him out ot the fight an there was a Rood deal of feeling by VYobste and bis delegation about that. Q. So far as the speech-making Is cor cernod , or glvlinr expression to any feollnt Isn't it true that it was confined almost wholl , to Douglas county' A. There was a grea deal of Douglas county : I think Schmlnko oc cuplcd some little time for Otoo county. Q. Before that convention did you hav any Intimation that Boyd was a candidate o probably Hould bo a candidate for governor A. I had a general Intimation that h might bo a candidate , but nothing that you- Q. Hadn't It been the general talk , of th city of Omaha that ho would in all probabl ity bo the democratic candidate forpovoruot A. Thcro was a general Idea that lie migl become a candidate and then four or nv other men were mentioned. Q. Isn't it true also that a large portion c the Douglas county delegation in the ropul Hcan convention that nominated Richard supported Boyd at the polls i A. I don't know anything about that , b ( causa 1 bad no dealings with them after tbai Q. Your business nnd contact wit thosa gentlemen would , afford vo an opportunity to know , would it not A. res , sir , it would afford mo some o | portunlty , but I wo * really out ot town tb greater part of the time before election , an lor at least two or three days prior to tb election my Utno was occupied In orgaunln matters all over the state ; getting lost reports ports in nnd looking after Q. Do you know of any portion of that delegation supporting Boyd ! A. I don't Know of nny particular Indi vidual. Q. Do you know In a general way of their lending moral support or aiding Boyd's can vass ! A. 1 think some of thorn were dissatisfied with Mr. Richards in not expressing himself fully. I kiioxv that some ot the men , for In stance , that actually refused to ratify his nomination at Lincoln worked for him hero this man Spccht , for Instance , turned in nnd worked hard for Richards. Q.Isn't It true that Boyd was a pro nounced candidate for the democratic nomi nation before tbo republican state convention Was held ! A. Not very pronounced ; the republican state convention was held several weeks be fore the democratic state convention nnd so far as I could learn Boyd'a candidacy de pended very much upon whether Van Wyclt was nominated by tbo alliance people ple or whether they nominated some other man. I remember that after the alliance or Independent people had nominated Powers , then Boyd talk became moro loud in Omaha , nnd ho felt confident , or his friends for him 1 have talked moro with his brother than I have with Mr. Boyd himself ; his brother Is manager of the theater and sometimes I would talk to him about the general outlook of things , and all I could gather of the Idea that Boyd had was that tbo nomination of Powers would glvo a very good chance for the democrats to carry the state. Q. You know Boyd's friends intended to make a candidate of him ! A. Yes , sir. Q. And you know Boyd was favorable to that movement himself ! A. No , I did not know , hut I think prob ably if bo hail not been ho would bavo not been a candidate. Q. Dld you bavo any talk with Mr. Boyd himself before the republican stuto conven tion I. A. I think perhaps I have talked with him. Q. On the subject of bis probable candi dacy for governor ? A. No ; talking with him on general prin ciples , on the situation , probably. Q. Isn't ' It true that long before the re publican state convention it was the general belief In this city that it was essential that Boyd , or some man of like popularity , should bo the nominee of tbo democratic-ticket to carrv the full nutt-prohibillon strength ot the state ! A. I don't ' belle vo that the people hero gave the remotest attention to that question at that lime ; they expected naturally that the republicans would carry the state as they always have heretofore. . Q. Was Boyd a member of this State Bankers' nnd Business Men's association 1 A. Ho was not. Q. Was ho a contributor to that organlza- tlonl t A. I don't bcllevo ho wns , but I don't know , as I never saw the list. Q. You never saw the list of contribu tors ? A. No , sir. Q. You would not bo able to state as a mat ter of fact whether ho was or not ! A. No , I never talked with him about It. R. Wbat organization In this city or elso- whcrolu this state did that State Bankers' and Business Men's association contribute money ? A. There was one organization that I know of only , and that was the Personal rights league. The arrangement with the Personal lights league , ns I understood It , was that they wore not to collect nny money in the city of Omaha from our business men nnd property owners , but we were to have tnls Held entirely -for the Business men's association , and in consid eration therefore , wo were to pay their ex penses of printing nnd traveling men. They had four or live and maybe six men in the field , and they managed them all by them selves and simply brought in their hills ot expenses nnd .theso bills were paid. I would hay , of course , if you call a party an association that Is , a political party an association thcro was another party that we paid money to , if that is what you wont to know. Q. The Personal rights league or the Personal Liberty league , wnlcb Is It ? A. They called it the Personal rights league. Q. That was the association that the Bankers' and Business men's association aided financially i A. They co-operated with them because they were enframed in the snrno work com batting prohibition. Q. Isn't It true that the State Bankers' and Business Men's association furnished all the means that was used by the Personal rights league or association , whatever you call it ? A. I don't believe they did , because I think afterwards wo discovered they had collected money from certain parties notwithstanding the original argument. Q. Can you tell in round numbers what sum was furnished the Personal rights league by ttio Bankers' nnd Business Men's associa tion ? A. Between four and five thousand dollars , perhaps a llttlo over $4,000. Q. This was used In making a canvass of the state , sending out speakers and paying the expenses and other incidental expenses ol the canvas ? A. It was used princi pally in printing letter beads and documents and circulars of all kinds , and translating speeches of foreigners ; also for the travelers or organizers of the per sonal rights league , who went about tbo stato. It was also an understanding between us tbat no political snoechos were to bo made , and no partisanship was to bo allowed. Q. Isn't it true that the personal rights pleague or society either ratified the nomina- 'tlouof Mr. Boyd for governor or nominated him themselves for the oftlco of governor ) A. It is not true that they nominated Boyd for governor , because the democratic party nominated him. I don't know what they did because I am not a member of their society. Q. Do you know whether they ratified his nomination or not ? A. I do not. Q. Is It not true tbat Boyd was supported by the members of the personal rights league : A. I am not a member ; I cannot toll you I Q. Do you know from conversation with the president or any officer or loaders of thill organization ( A. I baa qulto a controversy with the president of that association ovci that very matter. I denounced their inter fering in politics or making a nomination as e blunder ; wo were for nntl-prohlbltlon and did not want them to take sides on othoi questions. ' Q.-But they did take sides ! A. Tbej were disposed to take sides , but I bavo m knowledge Q. From what ho sold or members of thai organization said , you know they did take sides ? [ Several objections were hero Inter posed , finally it was said. ] Q. Now. you may glvo the names of th < officers of the personal rights league , if you have them. A. Louis Hoirarod , ! think , vim president of the league , bat I was not osso elated with the other oQlccrs in any waj to familiarize myself as to who the officer ! woro. I know who the agents wore In. semi cases , the traveling Q What partdld they take in the election It this city on November 4 lost ! That Is , wbai partdld this association take ) A. Icoulc only toll what I. saw. I can't tell what thoj arranged privately. I saw some of tbo mom bore with badges on on election day staudhi ; at the polls iiud peddling tickets. Q. Isn't It trun thatas a society generally they supported the democratic state tlcke1 and opposed the amendment ? A. I thml that the democratic members of the Icagui supported the straight democratic ticket , niu I think the republican members scratchoi their ticuets a good d' > al and voted for souu republicans , because I know they seemed U vote for Bcuton and for others on the ropub llcau ticket , . Q. Isn't It true that as a whole they sup ported the straight democratic ticket ? A. 1 could not tell you. Q. What is your Judgment of that matter based upon wbat you nnw and your know ! edge of the society ? A. I saw a number o the tlcUets that they had and th'at is the enl ; knowledge I havo. I saw they were scratchei and. that they had a variety of names on. Q. What other moneys were expended bj tha State Hunkers' and Business Men's assc elation , aside from what you have olrcail enumerated ! A. "Wo paid ( GOO to the stat committee ot the people's Independent ticko under an arrangement made by myself will its chairman. Q. By Darnell : Glvo the name of thi chairman I A. Mr. Blako. Q.-CJeorgo W. Blake ! A. Yes , sir ; Mi Blake called oa inn at the ofllco horoli Omalia and agreed with mo that ho wouli causa half of tbo tickets of the alllanco to b printed against the amendment and half for that was all wo askoJ , and if or that coasldoi atlon I agreed wo would pay him $000. I hav not seen the money aid ! and I don't know o my own knowledge at it was paid , but I be llovo it was paid. Q. tfou made that on behalf of this assc elation ! A. T did malco it on behalf of the Bankers' and Business Men's association. Q Was no arrangement of that kind mnda with tbo democrats ? A. 1 did not make that arrangement , but I understood somebody else I am not certain about that , Mr. Pax * ton or somebody arranged with tha chairman of the committee to pay them $ t00. ! I am not certain that that is BO. Q. Asldo from any money paid for the procuring of naturalization papers , , and paid to the respective parties for the printing of tickets , nnd the Jo.OOO or Jfl.OOO paid the per sonal A. Between ? IUOO and $5,000. Q. Whatever It may hnvo been that wns paid the personal rights league , In what other manner was this money expended the ? ! 'JOIK ) or fl.1,000 ! A. Mr. RoKpcn received a salary of MOO a month and hw traveling cxnonsos when ho was out of the city ; ho had been employed from May to November , and our organizers , wo had something like eight or ton of thorn Q. You may rfvothelrnamcsrightlioro , if you will ? A. I have their names hero and probaoly I might as well submit them ; I had them written out : A. S. Campbell of Hast ings , n democrat ; F. M. Plckett , Jr. . of Ash land , a republican ; T. S. Clarkson of Omaha , a republican : Capt , Wilcox of Omahn , a democrat ; J. H. Erion.South Omaba , repub lican ; S. U. Bohrens , Franklin county , a re publican ; Mr. Lcpsa ot Wahoo , a republican and Bohemian organizer ; Mr. John Matthics- sen of Omaha , a republican , was the Danish organizer ; K. II. Stcubnrg of Omaha , n re publican , was the Swedish organizer ; H. M. Wells of Crete , a republican , was ono of the organizers ; Stanley Thompson of Kearney , a democrat , was another ; Charles MncPherson of Ampahoo , a democrat , was another ; T. H. Cooke of Lin coln , a republican , was another : Amos Jen nings of Falls City was another , n ropu b- llcan ; Carlo Wltto of Nlobrarn , a republican , was another. These men received all the way from t50 ! to WOO every month nnd tbolr expenses , and they were employed during the campaign , some of them a month or two and some of them longer , and It required a largo amount of money to pay them. Q. What number of those persons be longed to the personal liberty leaguol A. I don't think any of thorn. Q. Mr. Matbicscn , I understood you to say yesterday was a member of the leapuol A. I think not ; ho was a member of the Danish society : I think ho was ono of their ofllcers. Q. How about Stonborg ? A. Mr. Sten- berg , I don't think was a member ; ho Is a prominent Swedish citizen and consul of Sweden hero ; ho is n real estate dealer. Q. Is Captain Wilcox a member of the personal rights league ! A. No , sir. Q. Major Clarkson ? A. Certainly not ; ho is postmaster hero. Q. You don't pretend to know who the members were ! A. I do not know ; that you will'havo to ascertain. I am not a mem ber of the league myself. Q. Mr. Erion of South Omaha was not a member ? A. Hois an American ; no , I think not. not.Q. . Aside from what you have already enu merated , what money wosoxpcndcd ? That Is , I would like to bavo you go on and give the expcddlturcs of this cntlro Banker's nnd Business Men's association that was expen ded , nnd when and when and whore and to whom. A. I told you in the first place that I novcr saw the contribution list and financial books and so I can not tell a thing about it except in a general way. Q. Was there any money received in this city in the months of June , July and August this last year from what is Irnown as the whisky trust ? A. There was , never nny money received in this city from the whisky trust. Q. By nobody ? A.Bv no member of the Bankers and Business Men's association. Q. Were no contributions made cither to that society or nny other organization of In dividuals ? A. I am not a member of the whlskv trust and cannot tell you ; Iknow they did not give us nny monoy. Q. Do you know of a $15,000 draft being sent hero in Juno lost ? A. There was uo $15,000 draft sent hero. Q. There was none ? A. Nor a $1COO draft , nor a 115 draft. O. Was there a draft sent hero by them in July ? A.-Nosir. Q. Nor In August ? A. Nor at any time. Q Was there no contribution to ton fund of the State Business Men's and Bankers' association from any outside parties ] A. That I don't know , as I told you I had noth ing to do with the finances , but I know about the whisky trust because it was under con siderable discussion. Q. Do you know whether any effort was made to procure money from the whisky trust ? A. I do remember of talking with some members of our association that they bad expected money from thorn , and some ol them were trying to see whether they would contribute. Q. Do you understand whether any was received or notl A. There was no money received , so far as I can learn , by our assochv tion from the whisky trust. There was , ] think , $3,000 tendered and rejected. Q. Tendered by whom ? A. Tendered bj some of the whisky trust pcoplo ; I tnink , perhaps , it was through Her. I advised oui people to reject It , and it was rejected. Q. Do you know whotner any money was contributed cither directly or indirectly bj parties outsldo ot the state to assist in thU campaign against tUo prohibitory amend mentl A. I cannotr tell you , because I hav < nothing to do with the finances , only as t < the whisky trust , and that mattcrl hanpcncc to know about because it was under discus sion , Q. Where was that subject under discus sion ? A. Of course , charges had been rnnJi in the papers continually in fact , charge ; had boon made that I was getting $100XX ( and $50,000"and the fact is wo never bad a any tlmo moro than $8,000 or $10,000 togothoi and were always skirmishing lor man monoy. Q. I don't care anything- about thcs < charges , what I want to know is whether thU matter was brought up and discussed in thi society or not ? A. It was discussed raerelj to the extent of talking over the hoggtshnesi of the whisky trust in offering-us $ J,000 ; w < thought If they were going to do anything hero as they were indirectly interested in thi amendment , but I came to the conclusioi that they wanted prohibition because tholi men wore humbugging all the time and re ally did not give us any assistance. Q. I understand that oa election day yet attended several polling precincts , or man ; of them } A. I did. Q. You may state what you oosorvod 11 anything , with reference to the personal lib erty league using carriages or vehicle ia getting voters to the polls. A. Ireallj did not pay attention to the carriages aroum the polls , but there were carriages of all pac ties , democrat and republican , but they wen not marked personal rights league carriages I would not know whoso carriages they were I saw men standing around peddling- tickets Q. Isn't it true that the personal liberty league carriages and the Boyd carriages wcr ono and the same thing ! A. I could not tcl you ; I don't know anything about that. Cross-examination ( by Hall ) Q. Yoi stated yesterday tbat the Bankers' and Busl ness Mou's association was organized sole ! ' to tight prohibition. That is true , is it I A That is all the object that wo bad in view and it was very well understood by all th members ot the organization or committee that politics were not to enter into our affair at all. Q. Was there ever at any tlmo during thi campaign prior to the 4th day ot Novembe any action taken by the Banker's and Bus incss Men's association or any of its men , f o the purpose of getting any votes for any car dldato upon any of the political tickotsi A.- Tborowas not a dollar a pent for any partlc > ular candidate , for wo were ou coed term with all parties in a couoral way. The IK clcty bad no liitnerost in electing any ono , a least as a society , nnd never attempted to ii terforo In the election of any ouo. Q. Did you during tbo campaign moc with evidences of the use ot money b , organizations or individuals in the furthei anco of the adoption of the prohlbltor ; amendment ? A. Well , during the entlr campaign thcro were documents circulate and requisitions made upon pcoplo here an elsewhere for money for the Nebraska can paignIhave ; some of tbo documents thi wore sent out ; members ot congress wor oven importuned to send money to Ncbraak to help curry the amendment , and the Ne\ Yorlc Voice , that is a paper published in th interest of prohibition , made an appeal to a the sympathetic people of tbo United State- to contribute , and they tell in one of tbel issues after election that over $10,000 wei sent to Nebraska by that paper alone. Q. Do you know of the uxlstencciof an orgaulzatioa In the state of Nebraska for U carrying on of work in favor of the prohlbltor amendment ) A. I know of several organ > atlons in the state. There was. tha Woman Christian Temperance union , tbo Non-pa tlsau league as they called It , an assoclatlc with headquarters al Lincoln , the Goc Templars' association , all of which wi especially organized , and then there was tt prohibition party as a political orgauizatloi Q. Their campaign was conducted situ iarly to yours , wasn't ill That is , they set speakers througboutjutbo stnto ! A. They sent organizers nnd Ancakors ; Intact , they had a hundred tb 'our ono. Wo had only two or thrdo * ! persons speaking the cntlro campaign and they had not loss than two hundred , Some that were paid , ns I understand , for the ordi nary class $ in nigh M and board themselves far every locturotnoydollvored , nnd others ai high as from $ . " > o to J200 for every lecture thor delivered , and 'Htimp speakers were every whore all over the state , and organizers that were paid wo had somC offers from some of these organizers , from some of tholr hired speakers thntothey had Imported. Smith 8. Mackins , I rfllnembcr , was ono of the parties that got lived of playing music tboy introduced a llttld musical entertain ment for the edification of the people and after they had been pl ln ? nnd singing for the prohibitionists they were willing to sing the other way , but wo did not hire them. O. By Allen I suppose they required a llttlo advance over wuot the prohibitionists wore paying there I A. Probably. Q. In reference to the naturalization pa pers of those foreigners , bavo you nny recol lection of any ot these papers being delivered from your oflleo after the 4th of October and within the thirty days next preceding the election ? A. I remember now that these pipers must have been delivered before that , because all these papers wore taken out of euro Dice before the registration took place ; nil these pcoplo bad to bo registered , nnd the papers ha < J to bo presented to the registrars : the parties called for them at the ofllco before thercglstratlon began , and wbllo In progress. Q. When did the registration begin ? A. I think it must have been about two weeks or three weeks before the election. I don't know the exact date ; the law fixes thodato. i don't believe auy were issued from the clerk's oMco or sent over to us after the last day , I think it was Saturday , the day on which ths lost , of the twenty days expired , and thcro wore none sent over after that. Q And you never saw nny of these ap plications for naturalization at all ) A. No , sir. sir.Q. . And. so far as you know , the way It was done was that these foreigners all went to the district clerk ? A. They were all taken up thcro by these different leaders who could talk good Kngllsb , Interpreters , so that the party uho made the requisition ou mo to get the ordur would take eight or ten nt a time up to the clerk's of fice , or as many as were willing to go , and ho would do thclrlntcrprcting , and tbpy would maUo their declaration there , then the clerk would issue their papers and send them over , and then the sumo party would come after them and take them away. Q. Have you any means of knowing what particular political party tuoso a.bOO foreign ers anillatcd withl A.-Thoy did not aQill- ate with any particular party ; they were men ot all parties. Some of the parties that I had given orders for worked very hard for tbo re publican party , or the straight ticket , others worked for a mixed ticket , and some for the democratic ticket. I presume probably the majorltv of them voted the democratic ticket. Q. Was there any politics connected with tbo naturalization ot these foreigners ? A. None whatever. We never talked poll- tics to those foreigners and the men who pro cured them , or the supervisors who procured them were men who belonged to all political parties , all except the prohibitionist. I mean thcro were democrats , Independents and re publicans. Q. The solo object ottho naturalization of these foreigners , the solo object of the ex penditure of that money by the Bankers' and Business Men's association for the payment of their naturalization pipers , was that they might become legal voters and vote against prohibition ? A. That was all the ob ject \vo had in rvlow. Wo knew In general that nearly all aliens or foreign- born pcoplo were .opposed to prohibition , nnd perhaps with the exception of the Swedes all of thorn wore opposed , so wo made no differences about that. Our Idea was that wo would strengthen the causa of antl-prohlbltlon by ' having them become voters , Just the same , as has been done in every campaign. Two years ago we had 1,700 papers issued in this county in tha presidential campaign. ' ' Q. You state that you made n contract with Mr. Blake , chairman of the Independent state central committee , did you ? A , I did. Q. And for payment to the central com- irtlttee of the Independent party of $ SOO ? A. My understanding waa.that tbo money was given to the fund of the independent party , to their campaign fllnd Or to pay for those tickets. Q. In all respects , was tbo contract with Chairman Blake similar In nature to the con tract made with Chairman Watson of the re publican party ? A. Just the same exactly , exactly the same agreement , the same condi tions. Q. So that that money was not paid tc cither party as a contribution from your or ganization for the political campaign fund , but In reference to the object of your organi zation to defeat prohibition ? A , The object was to be sure to get tickets in the hands ol voters against prohibition , as well as for ; that was the satno agreement. The agree- mout wns that half of the tickets would be printed for prohibition and half against. Q. What do you mean by that , exactly ! A. That of the number ot tickets printed one-half of them were to have ou them "against the proposed amendment for pro hibiting the manufacture and sale of liquor , and for the amendment licensing the traffic of liquor ; " then the other bait were to b < tbo other way , for that class of voters whc wanted to vote for prohibition. Q. Was U arranged that each kind oJ tickets should be supplied to each polling precinct in the state ! A. It was arrangct that they should have the independent pee ple's ticket with the two different views oc the amendment , so that there would be twc kinds ot tickets for voters , and they would not bo obliged to scratch their tickets. Q. At all the polling places ? A. At al tbo polling places la the state. The only ex ception wo made with the republicans , and 1 think wo did with Blake , was that we could omit Douglas , Lancaster , Gape and Dodge counties. The reason was tnat wo know oui people were going to attend to it personally and have tickets of all parties printed , and wo did not include these counties. But the balance of the atato was to bo furnished wltl tboso tickets , and wo paid them and contri butoa tbat amount to their fund. Q. What have you there ? A. This Is i sample blank of tickets that were sent out t < our organizers , vice presidents in dlfferen' ' parts of the state , to have them printed it their localities and supply them to thi voters , represontlnp the three parties they wore straight tickets wltl "against the amendment" on them fMr. Hall on the part of the contcstccs Intro dnced this "snmplo ticket , " which wau marked by the reporter , ' 'Exhibit G Omaha. " ] Q. That ticket , or a similar ticket of thi republican , Independent and democratii parties , the straight ticket , is a sample tlcke which you say was sent out by the Bankers and Business Men's association throughou the state , as a sample for the tickets of th respective- parties to bo printed by ? A. It I a sample ticket sent out by the general orgn uizor , Mr. Roggen , whoso nama appear there , to be used by all anti-prohibition poc plo , wherever they wArtfln the stato. Q. Now you Btatodithat you were proson iu the city of Omaha on November 4 , at th general election , did ATOU notl A. Yes , sir Q. How many of tno.yotinjj places dldyo visit that day ! A. I tniak I visited nbou eighteen or twenty ; thcrt are forty-two polllu ; places and It would hatfl.takon a man abou all day to go to all of them. Q. What , if any , clisTurbanco at the poll did you ftco on election ) Jaay. A. I saw n disturbance whatevcr/r ] The only place where there was any loud or boisterous tall was in the Third ward add ia ono of the pre cincts of the Fifth ward ? Perhaps L was ; party to the loud taltoimysolf in tbo Flit a - ' \u\u Q. Tell us about that , } A.Vhon I got t the Third ward they worb , reporting that som non-resments had been trying to chulleng voters there and thatf anlos were poddlln what they called bogus-tickets. Q. Did you get anyitfl these bogns tickets A. I got ono , but there were a variety c thorn ; I have one with mo tnat I picked up o tbat dav. Q. You got this ticket , you say on elect io day I A. Yes , sir ; I got fn on election daj Q. Afonoof the polling- places ) A. A ODD of the polling places. Q. This is one ot the tickets which wn denounced by rcpuollcans and democrats a fraudulent ? A. Yes ; this was deaouucec of course , by democrats moro than republ cans , because it was a ropubl cau ticket. [ Attorneys for contcs cus offer this ticket in ovldonc which U marked , br the reporter exhibit H OmuhaJ. Some of these tickets were dcmi cratic straight with for the amendment 01 the bottom , and nil the straight regular dealt cratlo tickets had the prohibition amcndmor at the top of tbo ticket. Q. They were issued by whom ) A. I ; sued by the democratic central committee. Q. Of Douglas county ! A. Of Douglc county. They had tho" prohibition ainem mont on or rather , ngalnit the amendment nt tha bond , nnd these bogus tickets had the amendment nt the bottom , and when that was detected by these peddling the atrnlght democratic tickets they claimed they- were bogus and that the boys ought not to peddle them nnd they caused a great deal of talk and contusion. There wasn't any real disturbances or any thing of that kind. At the Fifth ward , when I came there , there was qulto a crowd ; there was ono man peddling republican tickets with prohibition on thoin , nnd was working for Richards and for prohibition , and ono of our councllmon hnppanod to bo mere n man by the name of OstnofT. a democrat was hav ing qulto a llttlo controversy with this man : OHtliofT Insisted that ho must leave tbo poll with his tickets , nnd the ether man Insisted that ho should stay , nnd I Insisted that ho should , too. "und then I took a stand for him and said that any man , no matter- who ho was or what tickets bo peddled , had as much right hero as any ether man , Wo had n llttlo controversy over it and then presently ( Jen. Kstabrook cnmo along ho is a prohibitionist ami always has been nnd wo got , into u friendly talk nnd gathered qulto a largo crowd around us over tbo roasting that St. John was to glvo mo on Sunday , but there wasn't any thing else. I met Rev. Mr. Merrill , and by the sldo of him stood a niau I understood to bo Mr. Thomas. Both bad prohibition badge * on and \\oro not dlstuibod. I asked Mr. Merrill how ho got along and ho said ha got along very well. Of course he heard some talk that A preacher would not like to hear , but at the sumo tlmo was not disturbed and stayed right there. I returned to that same voting place about two hours later this was In the forenoon nnd In the afternoon I re turned to the placo. These two parties were still there peddling prohibition tickets. I did not see in any other urcclnct whcro I went any disturbance what ever ; ns a inuttor of fact they got their voting -almost doao at 4 o'clock , nnd there was very llttlo voting done after -1 o'clock ; the people had got out early In the morning and voted so much so , that I did a thing I never did in my Hfo before , wont to bed nt 4 o'clock and slept to 0:30 : , and that was a thing I never dld > before ou election day. The election ran so smoothly and quietly. Q. Ho > v many votes , in round numbers , , were polled in the city of Omaha on Novem ber 4 , last , the day of the general election ? A. In the city of Omaha proper , I think there was something Ilka twenty-two thou sand votes , maybe twenty-throe thousand. Q. How long have you lived In Omaha ? A. Twenty-seven years. Q. You have been somewhat active in politics ? A. I have. Q. Anil been more or less active around the polls nearly every year ! A. Yes , I have taken part In some very boisterous elections. I remember onetime when our constitution was adopted giving the negro the right of suffrage wo had to mass about thirty or forty men at tbo polls to protect these negroes from being slugged and knocked down with brick bats. So I hnvo been through some ex el ting elections hero. Q. So that If thcro was such a thing as expert testimony upou the conduct of elec tions In the city of Omnb.i , you would fcol yourself quallllcd to testify as to peace and order ou election day , would you notl A. I think I know as much about the aver age orderly and disorderly conduct of elec tions as anybody , probably , who has been lu the city of Omaha. Q. You may state how , In your opinion , the last general election In the city of Omaha , held on November 4,1890 , compared in pence and order and quiet with elections in previous years in the city of Omaha. A. I must say I never have seen a moro quiet and orderly election la the city. It has boon reported that thcro were drunken men at the polls , and some have charged that thuro were pros titutes bossing some of our election places. I was in what they call the burnt district Q. What ward is that in ? A. The Third ward. I was there two or three times be tween 9 o'clock In the morning and say half past 3 in the afternoon and I novcr saw amore moro quiet , orderly election in tbat section ot the city. In the Fourth ward , where t llvo , I went to vote ten minutes after 8 ; thcro was a string ; of voters standing ready , probably as many as seventy-Jvo persons , and every man came there with his ticket m his hand or pocket , and there were two or thrco ticket peddlers , aud the election proceeded almost without a word , and so much so that tha most export I think Mr. Sudborough , ho Is in tbo auditor's ofllco of the Wells Fargo ox- pjcss company , and is probably as export o Fourth ward politician as wo have in this town and ho is a pretty strong rank republi can , and stood at that poll and ped dled straight republican tickets , and ho told mo that everything wai going along all right during the d.iy , and that Richards was getting his full vote and the re publicans would got a fair share. No ono could tell anything about it , and ho was about as much surprised as any body. Everybody that catno along bad bis ticket in his pocket and ticket peddlers did not play ajvory frcat part In the election. I went over In the Second end ward , Bohemian town , and there was ttie largest crowd I saw on election day. There was uo disturbance when I was there but talk ing all the time of these men that had the bogus tickets. I never have scon an election in Omaha whcro there was less disturbance and greater order. In every place thatl wcnl to there were dozens of business men stand ing around , and as the business houses anil banks were all closed from morning unti night , the beat class ot pcoplo were out ana took an interest In the election. They did not appear to have the slightest 1 could see nothing Indicating auy disturbance. I came Into the ofllco in the a'ftcrnoon and mot Mr , Cox of Lincoln In Tim Bun building. Q. Mr. Sam Cox , editor of The Call ? A.- Ycs , and ho did not say anything to mo. I said Just as I was passing along , that tbo clcctloi was going on very quietly here , and now U my great surprise Mr. Cox had sent out a that very tlmo telegrams that a riot was li orogrcssla Omaha ; that a mob bad contra of tbo city and the police had given the cit ; up to the mob. Q. You have related all the disturbance which you saw In the eighteen different pre cincts which you visited that you can recollect A. Yes , sir ; I rode around In. abuggv ; I hai a cab of ray own and I rode from place ti place , and some places I visited SOVCM times. In most of these places there was no the slightest pretense of anything moro thai lust an orderly prowd standing around , chad ing and talkingIn a string takim their turn at voting ; there wasn' any- demonstration ; I noticed thcs Independent tickets ; I don't think there wer many independent tickets peddled aroum from what I could see ; I did not sea nior than three or four persons at the place peddling Independent tickets. They woul have prohibition tickets , or a bunch of thci with all parties ; they had democratic and re publican and Independent ana everything. Q. Did you suy that you say prohlbltlo : ticket peddlers , or rather poddlew of ticket for t/ho prohibitory amendment with badge oa ! A. I saw the two that I named ; ther was Dr. Merrill and Q. Did you sea 1 h at any other poll A. I don't remember seeing thorn at nn other place except the Fifth ward. Thcr were ticket peddlers for prohibition nt thos places , because they were pointed out to mi and I saw some of the tickets these pcopl claimed were bogus. Q. At how many of the precincts in tb city which you visited did you obsorv pcddlera present and working for the prohll itory amendment ? A , I should say In rue ; of the places. In some cases two c three , and ia some cases BIX c sovea and perhaps eight. The were pointed out to mo by other worker Ouo follow said , "Thoro Is a fellow wor kin for prohibition , " and some would say , "Thei is u fellow with bogus tickets , trying t peddle bogus tickets. " Q. Did you observe any violence towat any of these peddlers of tickets for the pri hlbitory amendment ! A. I observed n vlolonco. The only tliini ? I observed was , t I stated , iu the Third ward. Tfici was qulto a controversy there ov ( the right to peddle tboso tlcltei aud then } was a good deal i loud talking. Ouo ot the men happened I bo about llvo feet ten , or six feet , and I wi surprised that the other man , who wns r bigger than I am , should nold him at ba ; and I Insisted that the big man should hav his rights and go ou and peddle tickets if t wanted to. Q. In round numbers , what was the tot registration of the city of Omaha ! A.- dou't qulto remember , but I think the rogl tratlon hero was nearly twcnty-tlvo thousam botweca twenty-four thousand and tweiit , llvo thousand. O. Iu the city ! A. Yes , sir. Q. And wbat was the total vote polled ! round numbers ) A. I think something- 23,000 between ZiJ01 ( and il,003. Q. It was less than tha registration ! A. O. yoi , coiuldcraoly leas ; the total vote of tl county was 20,000 and something ; I bad sou figures hero to show the total vote of tl county , but it is not material ; the rccon will snow that. Q. There were about twvnty-thrco the sand votes polled In the city ot Omaha ) A. Dotn eon twenty-two thousand and Wcnty- three thousand. Q. I want to ask you n hypothetical ques tion , Mr. ItcmcTrator. Suppose n city of 150,000 llko Omaha was holding na election for general officers , county and aUto officers , and suppose the vote polled a groirntod 33,000 out of a total registration of i.T.,000 , nnd sup * peso a contest was helm ? held over the cloc-- lion of certain stuto ofllcots , and the tostl- many taken had showu that not n single man offerlmf to vote hnd boon deprived or prevented from freely exercising his right to vote for whom ha pleased and for such measures as he pleased ; ami suppose it wns shown by the evidence tlmt in thirty or thirty- onn or Ihii ty-two out of the forty-one polling places nf tha city one or two men , aggregat ing wo wll ! say forty , were personally abused after they had voted and while they were pcddllug tickets for a certain measure-not in favor of ccttaln candidates , but for thu certain measure and some of them wore driven away from the polls" , and some of them wore egged with rotten eggs , and some wore egged with good opff3 ; I want to ask you it In your opinion jou would call such an election OH that a poucablo and oidorly elec tion In n city of that slzot Answer in your own way. A. I tuko it that nn election where all the persons entitled to vote are per mitted to do HO without embarrassment and not deprived of their opportunity to cast their ballot , would bo a fair and frco election , notwithstanding that thcro might bo some people entirely outside of the voters who would get into squabbles. I do not belie.vo that the right to peddle tickets Is nn Inherent right of citizenship , nor the right to hang around the polls and chad people plo who cotno to voto. Tnat Is entirely nn outsldo matter , nnd those who engage In it must take chances of being noused or oven disturbed In their notions , or might even bo assaulted. The duty ottho police would bo to protect the citizens nnd arrest these who disturbed the public pence. But not neces sarily would a disturbance In the neighbor hood ot the polls constitute a violation of the election laws ; such a violation ns would disbar or In any way de prive these for whom the people bavo voted of the right to hold the ofltccs to which thev were elected. I bavo seen a great many elections and I nave never seen nny hero but what there was some dis turbance around the polls moro or less by pcoplo who would get Into altercations. I never saw a prfisldcutlal election held in Omaha , from the ilrst ono that I ever saw here , when Ulysses S. Grant was running the ilrst time in ISO'J , to tlio present day , nt which there were not ton times as many disturbances , nud at all of which tne-ro was always a great deal of Intense fecliug and abusive talk between per sons of either side on the strictly political lines on which these elections were carried on. The provocations hero for disturbances were very great , nnd yet I think that consid ering the conductor some ot the people who weio trying to provoke disturbances ills remarkable - markablo that there were only a dozen ar rests made on tbat day , all told , In n city us largo as this. Q. I would ask you If you are conversant wltn tbo movislons of the registry act in force ia this cityl A. I am In a general way , yes , sir. Q. It Is there provided , is it not , that before fore registration the applicant for registra tion must bo sworn , put upon his oath ami tested as to his qualifications as an elector ) , A. That is the way I was treated when I registered ; I was sworn. Q. When a voter in the city of Omaha pre sented himself ut the polls on election day to vote , It wns the duty of the election judges , under the registry act , to find his name upon at least two of the registry books ? A. That was their duty and they did it , so far as I know. Q. And If his name was found thcro it was received 1 A. It had to ho received under the law. Q. And If It was not found there it was rejected until ho qualified himself bafora the city clerk ? A. Until ho furnished evidence that ho wns a legal voter. The law requires him to do so by a certain process. Q. And that being the condition of tilings vtlth reference to the provisions ottho act , ia not iu a largo measure the necessity for hav ing challengers nt the polling places been done away \Uth1 A. My understand ing of the law is that cunllcnccrs are practlc. ally useless where registration has taken place ; the only ground upon which anyone could challenge is as to identify , for the regis tration board is required to sit at cortatt times only and with open doors , and nnj person may there challenge any person foi registering , and oven af tor that if on the list of registration tlio name o : any person is found who Is supposcc to DO disqualified from voting far any reason from non-rcaidenco or non-citizenship or an } cause , his name Is stricken off just as soon as the attention of the registrars have beer called to It , aud It has boon , ascertained thai the charge Is coriect. So that practically the registrars and registration is to facilitate the voter and enable people tbat desire tc vote to bavo the protcctiou thrown around them , that the registry laws throw as nn cvldenco of the right U vote The only reason they migh bavo for challenging Is that they were voting ing on somebody else's name , so thcro was m necessity for challenging. Wo had recently a very exciting- city election this month af toi the other election , and yet I don't bcllovi there were any challengers at the election because the oeonlo were registered and then were no grounds for challenging. Q. I will ask you If you were acquainted some and in a largo degree , or to what do grco , with the state of public opinion in th city of Omaha generally upon matters relating ing to the election , on election day and immo dtatcly prior thereto ? A. I llvo hero and J think I know pretty nearly what the publl sentiment is In this city , Q. I will ask if there was a belief in thi public mind that It was the intention of thosi who favored the adoption of tbo prohlbltor : amendment in the city of Omaha to stand a tbo polls and cualleneo voters ludiscriml natcly for the purpose of delaying the vote A. My information was thnt the manager of thn prohibition campaign , or rathe the prohibitionists here , hud ngiccd upoi a programme of obstruction something ilk two or thrco weeks before election Thor was an application made by them to hav prohibitionists put upon the Donrds. It wa placed lu the hands of the city council am the council did not grant it ; in a day or twc or a few days afterwards , the county corn missloners ) were to pass upon the matter be cause It was ascertained that the Judges mus ba appointed by the commissioners. I wen before the board of county commissioner myself and asked that their prayer should b granted ; I thought it would remove aJ chance of quibble. aud cjucstlo ; It they had some roprcsentatto on the election boards. Subsequently th demonstrations made hero by the prohibition ists , their breaking Into at least I think 1 was some of tholr mon , somebody broke int my room and ransacked our building , an also broke into the census ofllco and genei ally boasted that they were going to obstruc thu election brought mo to the couvlctlo that it was not safe to have them on tu boards , and that they would undoubtedly pri vent , if possible , a fair election by obstruc ing tbo voters , or refusing to certify t tha results of tao election , and thor fore 1 myself , over my own glenaturo , wltl drew my endorsement of the schema tin they should bo put upon the election board : And in order to have n fair election bet on auy doubt , I appealed to TUB OMAHA Bin and wrote the article myself to the voter that every man should have a perfect rlgl to cast his vote as ho pleased ; that a fa ! and free election was guaranteed to over American citizen , no matter what h : views ; and that on election day no 01 : should bo disturbed , no mutter wht ho desired to do , so thai wo should have free expression of public sentiment ; thatwi published bolero election and ou the day < election , and I asked the committfci ot tl Business Men's and Banker's association t put placards at nil the voting places callir. upon the people to desist Interfering wlthtl right of thu pcoplo lu this respect , but tin had so many questions to consider that tl mutter was finally dropped. Q. You say the prohibition leaders ar managers ot the campaign for tbo prohlbltoi amendment lu this city bcforo tl election made boasts that they would obstru the casting ot votes or delay the voting c election day I A. It was so understood linn that their plan \vn to do oil they could to o struct the election. They Issued a pap called thu Bumble lice , and I have some the copies hero and you can sea \ their on writing. They uav it is publish ) every afternoon from tbo amendment lieu quarter * , so that would Hhow that the pr blbltloalsts Issued it. For Instance , her "Anarchy and Klot , " It merely goes tosho the general tendency- Q. Thu existence * of the belief m the clef of Oniaha that the prohiuiilonUta would c struct and delay tbo polling of the full vote the city In all ways that tboy could , was th general , do you kuowl A Yes , sir ; pub opinion was pretty well a unit oil that ( ju ( tlnn that there was hu organized effort bolne mtido here to obstruct the election by all moans tlmt xvcro at the command of the pro- hlDltionlsts ; thnt they would do so It they got iusldo of the election boards , and that they would doHoouUldo nnd wor ) determined if possible to tn ko such irrcgulnrittoj in the re turns of the election for this county as to hnvu Iho whole county thrown out. Q. And thnt opinion wns broughtaboutby the conduct nnd the nets nnd utterance * of the prohibition lenders I A. Yea , sir , it was broiifht about by the peculiar disclosures that were made In the inst weeks before elec tion tha work thnt they were doing hero. They und a man by the name of Johnson I don't know what his iinmo is , tlmt Is not his true name who was proulliiRnbout different people's iiromlses , and was trying to got lu our building , ana was seen thcro several times , and ono night when I wns absent the nluht watchman , who runs the elevator anil makes the round of ttio building every fo\v minutes almost , found my room open niul somebody had boon In nud the papers and things were nil upsldo down. When I got back bo reported It to mo , nnd that wns iu connection with the fact that Mr. Cooko's ofllco hod been broken Into nt Lincoln by somebody and that the Q. What Mr. flooko Is this ! A. The census supervisor. Q. They broke Into his oftlco ni census supervisor ! A. Yes , and a lot of his papers hud been carried away. It was thought that the tactics of the prohibitionists were to got nny documents or anything , no matter how tboy rould get them , to carry on a campaign of defamation aud lawlessness wlileh wns to culminate- finally in having so many irrcifru- larltlos lu the election nt Omaha , if they could bo placed upon the boards , that the wbolo vote \\ould bo thrown out , . bociiURo they knew lu advance that this county would glvo a very largo majority against [ prohl- llton. Uy Darnell You may slate If you entered into a contract with .Mr. Koggcu in reference to this Hankers' aud Business Men's asso ciation. A. I entered Into n contract as chairman of Iho committee mid I have the original papers hero. Thcro Is the original contract. Witness produces paper -which Is intro duced iu evidence by the attorney for the contcstecs , nnd marked exhibit I , Omaha , whlcli was read by the witness and herewith produced : This memorandum cxf agreement mnrionnd entered liitii this l.Mh duy of May , IS'X ' ) . bvnncl between the bin to Business .Mrn'Hnml llnnlc- ei 1' association , by IMwnrd Itnsawntcr. eh ur- innn of Its o-xocutlvo commtttcn. of tlio llrht l > : ut , andlMwnru I' . Kosgc-n of Lincoln , Nob. , of thu spe-oml part. WltnuNMith , 'lliut said Fihvurd P. Hoscon of the second part , tor and In consideration nf t hn sum of three thousand dollars ( t-1.000) ) In Installments ot ( I vo hundred dollarsK ( > 00) ) uor month , to bo pild bysnld party of the first , part at thu end of each month tor a purled of six months fioni Alny H. IS'tO. to Noumibor 8. 1890. In consideration of said payments sild party Is to act and perform the services of secretary nnd state oiKunizorfnr suld party of tbollrat p.irtilurtnjttho tuna aforesaid , midur tlio dlri'ctloii of thouxeciitlvu committee ot tlinpurtyof the first part. It Is further nurecd thnt all necessary ox- potisus connected \\llh thodutlisof s.ild iwrty of the sc-cimil part blmll Im paid by said party of the Ilrst pirt , lu addition to the snlil monthly ( iiyiiicnt , ptovldt'd s.ild expenses uro nulhorfrcd by thu e\ccutl\e conmilttooof sale ! party of the Ilrst part. Ills furthernKropd that should said pnrty of the secoml part liecomo IniMpacltaU-d for any ronnnn from performing bis wirvlcps , or Rliould It bo uiuvecl that ho should take nny aetluiparl In fin thnrlnu thu interests ot any candidate for any political pirty , that said Ilrst party slull Iravo thu powi-rto revoke and annul this nmvcmiput upon llvo duys notice. Witness our lund this nth day or May , 1600 , atOmuhu. Neb , UDWAUU UOSKWATEII , Uhalrmaii Ex , Coin. Witness : KDWAUD 1' . Icoemnx. TIIOM\D MotrArx. Socictary. Q. Now , fhon , what was the result from n political standpoint of the action of Mr. Hog- gen as manager of this association ! A. There was no result politically ; wo were tryIng - Ing to defeat prohibition. Q. Without any reference to political par ties ! A. No reference whatever. Q. The sumo proposition that was incor porated In this contract with Mr. Itogpon tbat ho should not represent any political party or any political candidate , was the spirit of jour association , was it not ! A. It was not only the understanding with our own organizers , out the understanding that wo had with the personal rights league. I myself complained of one ot thuir orgauUcrs going out and making u democratic speech , and ho was suspended and laid off for quite a time , but I think they ro-eniployod him probably two or three wcoks before the campaign wasi over ; but in auy event , it was clearly under stood , and wo had that as a pirt of our un derstanding with the personal rights leusrao , tbut no \ \ oruer of theirs could go to work for the bouollt of any political candidate. Q. Of any political party ! A. Or any particular party. Q. Then in the work of the Bunkers' nnd Business Men's association you treated alike the democratic party , the independent party and the republican party ! A. Wo treated them alike. By Hall You testified yesterday that the question of the adoption or rejection of the prohibitory amendment occasioned great dis satisfaction in Omaha nnd affected the vote cast for Mr. Richards and Mr. Council. I would ask you If it bad the same effect or not upon ttio fortunes of the candidates for tno other state ofUcos upou the republican ticket. A. It had undoubtedly a grcatdeal to do with their light vote that they rocolvotl. It affected the entire pitrty. There were thousands of people In this city who hod for merly voted the republican ticket who Just deliberately , since the submission of prohi bition , went over and voted the democratic ticket , and nothing that wo wuld do would talk them out ot it. Q. So that as a result of the complication of questions involved in this campaign which culminated in the elccilon ot November 4 , 1890 , these contestcos suffered In thovoto cast for them In tlio city of Oinatiu. A. They suffered the loss of several thousand votes. I thliik in an ordinary election this county would not go mure than two or three thousand democratic at the very highest. Q. And this time it did go ! A. It went all the way from llvo to cloven thousand. unnmucr EXAMINATION. Q. I undcrstond you to say that you don't think nny citizen has the Inherent right to bo at thu polls advocating * such doc trines , in a pcacoablo way , as ha sees lit ! A. I don't bullovo thcra Is nny Inherent right to stand In the street and obstruct the street and get up n largo gathering to elec tioneer for votes , and I don't bellovo such a thing will continue moro than another year. Q. You did not answer the question 1 A. 1 don't bolioro that a man has nn Inherent right cither to hang around tha polls and act as a ticket peddler. i Q. Is It not true that every American citi zen who Is an elector has the right to go to tbo polls and In a moderate and gentlemanly way distribute tickets or solicit voter * to vote that ticket , and is ho not entitled to as much protection undpr these circumstances us any ether citizen who takes divergent views ! A. Certainly , but as I understood it Q. If u man wanted to go to the polls with a roinilar ticket representing the regular par- tics in the Held , with the exception thnt on these tickets was "For the amendment , " would you say that If that man bo- huvcd himself and talked moderately and did not disturb the peace that ho would not have the right to distribute those tickets 1 A. Ho would have Just the same right as any voter. Q. And isn't ' it true also that ho would bo entitled to the satno decree of protection ! A. Yes , sir , and ho had the satno degree of protection. Q. And the snmo degree of respact from the other voters ! A. All sensible men would. Q. Do you concur with Mr. Frank Moorcs in saying that the police force on election day was inadequate , owing to the police commissioners not having appointed u sufficient number of police ! A. I do not ; I think there was an abundance of police. Q. If a hundred persons or more , electors around the different polling precincts , who were distributing tickets such as I bavo mentioned in an orderly and quiet manner. were Jeered nt , nnd called s of , and struck at , run against , and their toes stepped on In an insulting manner , egitcd , nii'l some of them knocked down aud drtvon away from the polls for a distance of half a blook or so , would you say tbat was an orderly and quiet election ! A. You ask mo whether It Is an orderly and quiet election ( Iteportor reads formal question ) , I would say it was an orderly ami qulot election so fur as the electors were concerned ; d- thcra mluht bo psoplo outsldo. Just ns there do - might sometimes bo boys carrying on u con oo , troversy among themselves , ana the first w thing vou know tha boys are calling oauh other names. Hut that don't make tbo whole citv u mob , Q. Suppose you take ono of these polling of places where there were sevouty-nvo or u ut hundred mon gathered around thu polls ! A. 10 There never that were mauv tbut 1 siuv. KI- Q. Well , take forty orilfty men , then. At