THE OMAHAJ DAILY BEE
TWENTIETH YEAR. OMAHA , tfHIDAY MOENLNG , JULY 11 , 1890 , NTJ3EBEB 23.
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MiM Ally AT BEAl RICE ,
Webster Closes the ArgumonU in Favor of
Iligb License ,
BTRONG ANTI - PROHIBITION FACTS ,
Govcriiniunt Iiliior ]
In lowu Tliiui in Nebraska.
I''rciiiont | liitorruptlonu by
Small and Dickie.
Below ia given a full stenographic report
of the argument of Hon. John \Vebslcrnt
the Ueatrlco Chimtaucpta aaseinhly Monday
nftornoon , 'J'lils Is the concluding argument
on the part of the high-license advocates.
Prof. Dickie's closing argument will uppcar
In tomorrow's Issue of THE IJui : .
'S Ij.VST TAIjK.
He Uses Oovrriinient Itncords to Do-
fVnd
nnd Kontlomen : 'Iho president
makes the announcement that I bnvo forty-
five minutes to talk In fuvorof lilj h license.
When this meeting opened this afternoon thnt
MIMIC president sniil , when ho introduced the
( Irstsuouker , that bo should have forty-live
minutes to talk in fuvov of prohibition. I
listened to him for the forty-llvo minutes , and
I did notlienrimythlnKsaldnboutprobibltion
or the constitutional amendment. I beard a
pond dual said about John L. Webster. I
furnished this "original paeknpo" iniita u
Huhjcct for discussion. And I eiuno pretty
near to the conclusion that If I had not been
hero Mr. Small would not hnvo luul anythint ;
to lull : about for the last forty-llvo minutes
of tills debate , [ Applause. ]
Now , I want to say simply to this people
that the original pacloi o decision that ho
tallied about broke the backbone of prohibi
tion In the state of Iowa , la the .stato of
Kansas , nnd iivcrywliero else : nnd if this
little .original package which sits at my left
hand .shnll keep rimnlng on , ho .sliiill break
the backbone of the state of Nebraska. [ A
voice : YCH. slr.l
Io ) you know what nn original package isl
It is ono of these llttlo things that you put up
in p. great big bottl"1 , with the cork in It sealed
up , that you ship around the country as a
fcenled packnge , and when you want to know
the contents , nil you have to do Is to pay the
price and pull tne cork and let thu 'lasses
run. So this great prohibition Maine has
hired this "llttlo " and
package , shipped you
out to Nebraska ( applause ] , and I suppose at
the rate 3f about * C > 0 orf 100 a day , and you
can pull the cork lor forty-llvo "ilnutcs and
let It run. [ Laughter. ]
Hut , ladies and gentlemen , I hnvo some-
ttnntc more serious to talk about this after
noon than to waste my forty-llvo minutes in
talking about , nnd advertising my little friend ,
I like him , I would llko to entertain him , I
would llko to ndvertfso him ; but 1 camVdowa
hero to tulU nbout a great subjcctijEwhtch ho
seems to run away from , aadll'watit to talk
to you a little while. Ho .lid-talk about man
ufacturing nbout two minutes , after I had
shown this umllfnco of Intelligent people that
prohibition had wrecked manufacturing In
dustries iu the three prohibition states of
New linglnnd ; and my friend hero thought to
escape my argument , not by answer , but to
talk about ship building , as if to tell this au
dience tlmt 1,059 ship building institutions
had been driven out of the state of Muino I
Why , great God , don't you know that they
never luul but two ship building institutions
hi the state of Maine In thirty years ) Where
did they go to } Driven out. Has bo named
you one ) Why , no ; hut ho throws out tno
remark ns if they had all gone down in the
southern states there as noon as the war was
over. Have you not a shin building institu
tion In the stntoof Georgia ) I want to tell
my friend thatJ know ono thing to bo true :
thank God for the personal liberty of the
north ; wo have gone down into some of these
states in tlio oouth after the war was over ,
wo hnvo given you manufactories , wo have
given you Industries , wo have given you
banks , and Increased the high civilization of
the people ; but wo did it after wo had taken
personal liberty down there at the end of the
bayonet llrst. [ Applause. ] ,
My lady friend who sits hero on this plat
form told ino after the adjournment at noon
that this Chautauqua assembly hud
grunted her one hour alter this
tulle ' wns over , nnd she proposed
to use It in roasting Mr. Hosowitor mid my
self. [ Laughter. ] ( Mrs. Gougar Just you. )
Just myself. iLiiugh'.ar.l ( Airs. Gougar
Much obliged for advertising me. ) She tells
nio now thnt she proposes to give that hour
solely to mo. [ Lnghter. ] I do uot know that
1 shall have an opportunity to reply to tlmt ,
nnd 1 simply nsk of this audience that when
Mrs. Gougur speaks here for ono hour and
roasts John L. Webster , that you will listen
to her kindly , and remember also when It is
over tbat it Is a woman's gracious privilege.
[ Laughter. ]
Another word about this great state of
Georgia , from \vhieh was shipped this llttlo
original pickago [ Laughter ] , and I want to
fepcuk of it simply because 1 see tbat ho and
this lady are so closely linked together. I
.suppose it is a mutual understanding and a
ciiiiibluntlon to roust mo ; ono spe.iks for pro
hibition and the other for woman suffrage ,
niul neither ono of them over speaks unless
they link both subjects together , like a piece
of dress cloth. But , down , in thut. grout
slate of Georgia , with which Mrs. Cougar ,
from the state of Indiana , would link the llt
tlo package-down from the state of Georgia ,
that Governor Gordon tnat vou talk about ,
patriot that ho Is , talking to the confederates
nmljtjio federates together at that same core-
iiiohy waS the snino Governor Gordon who ,
luthomomh of last April issued a commis
sion from his olllco ns governor of the state of
Georgia , under the state capitol that I
talked nbout , appointing n man down there ns
whipping muster ' , whoso duty it was to go
out and f'i'ip the women who wcro sent to
the penitentiary us convicts. And If they
violated the prison rules of the state of
Georgia , the whipping m.wter appointed by
the great Governor Gordon inflicts the lashes
upoh their backs. If that Is the kind of
woman suffrage you want ( turning to Mrs.
( Jougar ) , and if ho Is tho- man to defend. It ,
you are welcome to him. [ Applause. J
[ Mr. Small Wo lire going to change all
tlmt when wo get woman sullitige.l
1 want to talk against prohibition a little
while : that is the thing that I was brought
down hero for , and I expect to go horne with
the declaration and n clear crnsclcnco that I
hnvo nt least talked about It a part of the
tlmo since I have been down here , as much
ns these people would let me. For the two
periods of time which were allowed to this
discussion nnd which have already gone by ,
wo have been talking nbout every thing , per
haps , except the simple question whether
prohibition prohibits.
I do not believe there Is any sensible man
or woman hero thnt wants to vote prohibition
into n constitution If you bellovo that it Is
ping to bo a dead letter when it Is there and
Is not going to do anybody any good. If you
uro going to put U there simply for thosaki
of tbo idea , without accomplishing any re
sult , then I want to tell you that you nro trillIng -
Ing with tlio great fundamental instrument
by. which your government is mnlntained.
1 toll you prohibition is wrong lu principle.
And wlion my friend talks about prohibition
beluga law of nature , i tiavo listened hero
for two days to have some man Uil mo where
ho Jhuls prohibition iu nature , or where ho
finds prohibition in the' blblo ; but I um met
with thu very general declaration that luil
no meaning , they iiovor tried to find It , nnd
have no evidence of the truth of the stato-
mont. My friend Small In the last talk ho
iravo you ramo about as near giving an Illus
tration as anybody has since the discussion
opened , when ho wns appealing to the farm
ers of this Ktato a'rnlnst ' railroads , nnd rung
laltli it a little nbout tlio taritt proposition ,
as if that was to carry prohibition 1
Have you over heard or read of nn act of
congress which prohibited the importation of
commerce Into the United States ! 1 tell you
uo.Vhat you i iail in the great tariff laws
of the country \yns simply a production , uml
If you import u certain urtlclo you should pay
a certain ivvi-inio iip.m It In tha formal a
t irlff. What was It I Why , I tdl you it was
limply a mjfulatl.jaJUcil upon ttic ImiurU-
Uuuot uercbttuJiiC , Jmt ttu UlaJ of a regu
lation wo put upon the man who sees that in
our high llcenso city If you run a saloon you
shall pay a license to the government for the
privilege of doing it. Why , it is regulation ,
not prohibition.
Go n llttlo further : Tho'thought was
thrown out that because somewhere In the
bible , during tlio time of Moses , that certain
things wcro prohibited , that thut was prohi
bition. Let mo see Just a minute about that
sort of thing. Wo have in the bible a great
many things which are denounced as wrong.
Among these Is larcenylaselvlousnessdrnnh >
cnncss , and a host of other evilsbut nowhere ,
1 tell you. Kev. Samuel Small , within the lids
of the bible , do you find laid down nny law
bv which It is declared that you shall bu pro
hibited to the extent of carrying on nil these
things outof which these evils come. You
nro talking about the prohibition of the man
ufacture ami the suit ] of liquor. I tell you
the man cannot lay his linger upon the words
where there Is n prohibition against the man
ufacture of wine in the bible. Drunkenness
Is denounced , crime is denounced ) just pre
cisely ns the civil law of this state denounces
crime , it denounce. ' * larceny , it denounces
forgery , It denounces theft , it denounces
burglary , nnd Ihoso arc simply punishments
inflicted upon the man who commits tin )
crime itself under process of regulation.
Let mo Illustrnto the fact a llttloi Wo
hnvo it put down in our statutes thnt the man
who steals property and is convicted of thu
crime , shnll bo sent to the penitentiary. It Is
made a penitentiary crime and why Is lar
ceny committed I It is because the num who
steals my property has no right to It ; ho
wants it for his own use. Ho misappropri
ates It : ho takes it from mo without nny
equivalent. Wo punish him , and because ho
loved the money which bo stole , have wo any
law in the great state of Nebraska prohibit
ing a man from having money.
When a man commits the crime of forgery
ho is sentenced to tlio pcnltentiaiy. If he
forges a check upon the bank upon which I
happen to have a little deposit , docs the law
ston In with Iho constitutional amendment ,
nnd say that you shall not write checks for
fear that u man who is disposed to criminality
will commit forgery ) Wo convict persons of
passing counterfeit money , mid for the cor
rection of it , and because they jove money ,
too , do wo prohibit the use ntfd having of
money I I tell yon , gentlemen , if you pro
hibit the use ami having of money by consti
tutional amendment or otherwise , and vou
could not pay it out for .services , your little
"original package" from the state of Georgia
would not bo hero nt all. [ Applause. ]
Mr. Small I will cemo for nothing when
ever you are up.
"Why. the thing Is wrong in principle from
beginning to end. I ask the people simply to *
consider any suggestions which may bo made
by those who follow me in this prohibition
camp meeting which I am advised will last
for two or three days after I go away , for
fear I shall have converted some of vour pco-
ple.andyou want to get thorn back in the fold.
In that great prohibition camp-meeting , when
limy give their illustrations about prohibi-
bitlon , I want you to probe them and .see
whether or not they are simple matters of
regulation.
Does it over prohibit ? Somebody in this
nudlonco was anxious on ono or two occasions
to ask 1110 about the state of Kansas and the
stntoof Iowa. Atthatthno I could not sny
anything about these to prohibition states ,
as I did not have sufllcicnt time. I want now
to give you n llttlo table on tlmt subject , nnd
I will commence with the state of Iowa.
You luul prohibition , constitutional prohibi
tion there beginning In ISal , and you had
constitutional prohibition in the state of
Iowa for a great many years prior to that
tlmo. Well , they have down hero In the city
of New York a newspaper ; thov call it the
Voice ; they ship It lioro to the state of Ne
braska to convert these people in favor of
prohibition and as against high lilx-nso. I
will turn to the paper called the Voice , under
dale of JulyiJ , and find in it a printed table
showing the muount of liquors and beer con
sumed In the states of the union , except that
tho-man who got It up for < jot to put hi
Maine , but they got Iowa in there.
Mr. IHckio it was published in Tar. BEE.
Mr. Webster Well , that is worse yet. My
friend Dickie hero asserts that it was
published In the interest of the liquor Ocnl-
ers. Has it come to this , that the mil v pro
hibition organ you have on God's green
earth has sold out to the liquor interest }
[ Applause. ]
Mr. Dickie You don't want to bo re
sponsible for that !
Mr. Webster I am responsible for the
statement , tbat that paper published it , nnd
It Is a prohibition paper , and I have a
right to accept it as proof that you endorsed
It us trae.
Mr. Diekto Yos.it Is.
Mr Webster Then don't Itlck nbout it nnd
try to get out of It. What did you publish it
in the liquor interest for ?
Mr. Dickie "Wo did uot do so.
Mr. Webster Let me tell you what the re
sults are. That paper says that In 1SSG there
was sold of molt liquors In the state of Iowa
19"I7 , ! : ! barrels. And In thostato of Nebraska
for the sumo year there wcro sold but SI.S3S
barrels of beov. Put it down In gallons :
Thirty-one gallons to the barrel , and hero is
the table : There win sold In tlio state of
Iowa In 1SSO , under constitutional prohibition ,
15.113,000 gallons of beer. In the high license )
state of Nebraska and vou little "oriirinal
package" man listen to this only Si-Ji,0)0 ( ! ( )
gallons ; or , in other words , in that llttlo pack
age state of Iowa , under prohibition , you
dnm1ci-ISS,000 ) inoro gallons of beer than the
people of our state. [ Applause ] ,
Let us take that same little bit of a table
and get another tiling out of It. I want to
see what they were doing In Now Ilanipsldro
nt the snino time , in l&O. They brought
Iowa there , according to that same table ,
13M.H50 barrels of beer ; that } s about u barrel
to uio man , because you have only n llttlo
over JWO.OOO people down there. Reducing it
to gallons , you have KJ10,7tiO ) ! gallons of beer
sold In that llttlo bit of a state of New Hamp
shire. While iii'tho state of Nebraska , with
four times the population of the state of New
Hampshire , Jour times as big as Xew Hamp
shire , wo i-onsumeu but 2t-iO'J70 ! gallons of
beer. Or. in other words , In k prohibi
tion New Hampshire , one-fourth 'the
size of the state of Nebraska , they drank
7 , SO,7b3 more gallons of beer than did our
high license people out hero. ] Applause , ] 1
want to tell you , fellow citizens of the state
of Nebraska , tlmt you are living In n vir
tuous , well behaved state , If you only know
It. [ Applause. ] If they transferred some
of you good prohibition people of the stale of
New Hampshire , or over lu the state of
Maine , where they drink so much beer , vou
would lose your Identity In about twenty-four
hours. [ Appliiuso.J
I want to give my friend over hero the
benefit of another table. I want to say to
these same people that Senator Illalr , from
the state of Now Hampshire , wrote a book
giving the history of the temperance move
ment covering over six hundred pages , and
put the sumo table lu the book from which I
gather this statement nnd from which I can
elvo precisely the sumo computation , and Mr.
Illalr vouches for its correctness. IIo tells
you in that book that ho had a statement ,
prepared for his own use ; ho tells who tire-
paiod It , got Hut his solicitation , and of Into
years the Voice publishes the saino tiling ;
uml when I use that against them , they come
buck and make complaint against tlmt paper
i ; if it was published in the liquor interest.
In that same book of Senator IJlulr's there is
another tabf ! that is very Interesting reading.
Muvlc you , 1 am taking this from the prohibi
tion sldo ; I nm not talcing anything out of a
lumptik-t ; 1 am not taking it out of nnv cir
cular j 1 am not gathering It from nny Kansas
prohibition campaign
My f i lend did say that In Dakota they had
an argument that Is pretty near ns good ns
thu ono I made up bore. I want to thnnk
the e people for their fiitclllgeneo in 11 ml Ing
out so much truth , [ L-iughter , ] The only
thing I had observed about it wns that if that
llttlo "original package" had known nbout
that thing so long ho did not try to answer n
thing tlmt was not truo.
Mr , Small There was nothing in It. [ Great
laughtoi- and applause. ]
Mr. Wchitcr-That's all right ; the laugh
turns around , you knaw. So this fun can go
on ; the fun cnu't end until Small nnd 1 leave
hero. [ Laughter. ]
Let mo take another table here. There Is
another tiblo published In that same book ,
and vouched for by Senator Illalr , which Is
found on page 155. I give the page so that
Mrs. Clougnr may HnU It uny time. [ Laugh-
trr.J On pigo 155 Is a table giving the num
ber of saloons In thu various states of the
; union In proportion to the number of Inhabl-
. Units In these states. Now , look at good , old
I 1'ixMjr.ion Maluv a uiluuto ; AcvorOlug to
this taMe by Blair , for the purpose of showIng -
Ing the grout evil of the saloon business , nnd
I admit the ovll , I admit it Is a horrible thing
In Maine , if this table U true. Scnntor Hhdr
In that tnblo which is put In that book figures
It out that in the statoof Iowa there is ono
saloon for every M77 persons. Pretty good
prohibition Isn't It ? Yes , that Is getting it
around pretty near every man's door Isn't It ?
Down In New Hampshire there Is ono saloon
for every : i7li people. Over In Kansas they
hnvo done a llttlo better. They have
only ono saloon down there under prohibition
to 877. They have not had prohibition tiulto
so long ns they have haJ in Maine. I think
when they have had It ns long as they had In
Maine they will have mow saloons. In Maine
they ha've one saloon to for every 7:11 : people ;
In Iowa they have one saloon to every 377
New Hampshire , they have ono saloon to
every 370 people ,
Now , good people , let mo tajk to you n
minute about Nehr-iskn. I Imvo t rietl to hold
up the banner of Uio state from this tlmo I
began this discussion , and I am ready to hold
it up now ; I am ready to provo from prohibi
tion arguments that , notwithstanding all this
howl about the benefit ? of prohibition there
nro a less number of drinking places In the
state of Nebraska under high llcanso proportionate
tionate to the population than you have got in
your old prohibition states , and I road It from
that simo record which shows that in Ne
braska there Is only ono saloon to every -IS"
people. [ Applause. ] How do you like that ?
1 tell you with that number of saloons , one to
only-137 people , wu nro not hunting for llttlo
original packages like they are in Kansas and
Iowa. [ Applause. ]
Another thing ; tHa government of the
United States Iceopa n record of all the licen
ses which are Issued by the government for
retail saloonkeepers. They qualify them
under the head of retail I'lor dealers , and
thut is the character of the . ' " imp. Any man
who sells liquor without Unit stamp is liable
to bo arrested. If ho has that stamp ho 1s
protected fmm arrest. Well , I hnvo that re
port Issuedby the commissioner of internal
revenue , nnd I want to sny to you
that It Is the only authentic report ncccsslblo
to nny man , determining the number of
licenses which are sold by the government to
retail liquor dealers throughout the United
States. Well , what does it si ow 1 It shows
this : On pago.'iri of that record and I want
to tell these people where to llnd it , If they
think I am not telling the truth about it on
pages U. > to 117 of that record will be found a
table which shows thnt in the year 1SW1.
which is the last completed year , murk you ,
there were Issued to the statoof Iowa under
tlio prohibition constitution , under the sumo
doctiino that you advocate , which you say
does prohibit , a,57f > licenses as retail liquor
nenlcrs. Very coed , isn't it , for prohibition
Iowa ? Yes. It is no wonder they have got
down there ono saloon to every -103 or WO
people , according to that. It proves what
Scnntor lllair said to be true ,
Mr. Small You fellowa have got them nnd
run away with them.
Mr. cbster Mr. Small must say we run
away with them or something llko thut.Vo
fought for fun , I reckon , and took theip down
south.
Mr. Small Yes , yes. [ Applause. ]
Mr. Webster That reminds me of the remark -
mark that Mr. Small made about Maine. Ho
snia if it was not because you had scoundrels
In ofllcc , nnd they didn't enforce the prohibi
tion law , there would not bo any drinking
down in Maine at all. Substantially that ;
these are not the words , but that is the idea.
The oftlccrd were scoundrels and would not
enforce the law. When you have had prohl-
bltlin in Muino for thirty-foar years , aud yon
have controlled every election , you have put
It in your platform nt every election , you
have elected all your governors , all your ofti-
eers , from the prohibition partyniis itrome
to this , that prohibition ollleers.elected by pro
hibition people , have all turned out to be such
scoundrels as thaU [ Applause. ] Do not
bhimo that on us high license people , because
wo are not In power down there.
I want to compare Iowa licenses a llttlo bit
with Nebraska : Nebraska and the territory
of the Dakotns in 183 ! ) , before D.lkota became
a state , were linked together in one. repre
senting the northern district , so Unit there
was kept but one record , and the whole mrm-
berof licenses for that saino year , issued to
what now constitutes the tw'o Dakotas mid
the state of Nebraska all combined , amounted
to a. < > ( ! 3 ; or , In other words , leas than ono
hundred more than In the statoof Iowa nlono.
Wo took the pains , knowing Mr. Peters , the
collector of internal revenue , who keeps the
records In Omaha , to ask him foroiirconvenl-
enco to sopenito tlio territories of Dahota
from the state of Nebraska , nnd wo find that
thnt the licenses issued to Nebraska for 18S' )
were less than eighteen hundred ; or , In other
words , less thun one-half of the liquor 11-
coiis.es sold to the prohibition state of Iowa.
[ Applause. ]
"Now , I want to give you n little astonishing
record , because some of you people tell mo
Unit high llcenso does not regulate or tend to
prohibit. The state of Iowa in 1SSO had font
times as many licenses for retail liquor deal
ers as in the state of Alabama ; twice ns mnnj
ns In the state of Michigan ; more than in the
state or Colorado ; nine times as many as in
the state of Florida ; twice as many as in the
state of Georgia ; more than .Minnesota ; more
fhim Montana ; four limes as manv ns South
Carolina ; twice ns many as Tennessee ; inoro
than the great state of Texas : inoro than Vir
ginia ; live times us imny as West Virginia ;
and ono and a half times ns many ns Oregon.
Docs not it appear from the olilcl.nl records o ;
the government of. the United States
that In your high license states
there nro less saloons , according to
the onicial report , than in youi
prohibition states of Iowa and of Kansas ! ]
put that before this people for the purpose o !
tolling you that hlijli license is n better reg
ulntor than prohibit'01 ' ; nu.l If vou are a
temperance man , as I bjllcvo you s'ro ( speak
ing to Kov. Small ) , 'come out of that camp
come out on our side , nnd we will preach tern
pcranco whcro it will do some goodnnd don'
jircac'i prohibition , \hich ruins some men
but [ Loud applause compelled the speaker
to stop , ]
I must not forget the little state of Kansas
down hero willi its retail , liquor dealers ii
IbbO , numbering 1.011. I must not forgot
Now Hampshire , Malno and Vermont wltl
2'DO. , And comparing them again to the
state of Nebraska wo ihul only 1,800. 1
want to toll you good prohibition people tha
yon have been misled in this great doctrine o
yours. You have listened to men talk like
this llttlo original naehugo who talks foi
money. [ Laughter. ] Who absorbs hU ideas
without knowing whether they are true 01
not. [ Applause. )
Uutmy Kansas brother around hero wants
a llttlo more information , and I want to give
It to him. I want to toll him about the elTeet
on Kansas of your prohibition. I have toh
you It increased the liquor traule ; I have
proved to you it Increased the sales of beer
and I want to tcdl you. It retards the prosper
ity of the suto and drives out the population
In Kansas , I have cot the statement tnkei
from tbo ivturns of the election of the prcsi
dent of the United States of ho elcctorn
vote cast in 18S4 comn.ired to Uio electoral
vote cast In 1SSS. I rind thut the state of
Kansas Increased in those four years bat 1M
per cent. While the guod state of Nebraska ,
in which you live , inoreasoe under high
llcenso moro than twice the number ; or in
other words , as W per cent to
21 per cent In Kansas. Go to Iowa ,
and wo huvo the electoral vote of
ISSt compared to the electoral vote of 1SSS ;
and the state of Iowa la four years gained
but S per cent In her electoral vote , while
Nebraska gained 50 per cent. How Is that I
Crow six times ns fast ns Iowa ; while Min
nesota , wlth'hlgh license , grew twice as rap
idly as the state of Kansas nnd Ilvo times as
rapidly as the state of Iowa.
I tell you that whatever you do for the
state of Nehrusna , If you let these people
hem you in with prohibition nil around you ,
nnd you plant prohibition in tbo state of Ne
braska , that the tide of immigration , the tide
of prosperity , the inarch of progress will go
clear around your borders , find you will bo
ilrivct ) back Just as the states of Kansas and
Iowa , and Minnesota , Wisconsin nnd Wy
oming nnd the Colorados will bo looming up
with prosperity , 'waving the banner of the
republic in the air so high that yon prohibi
tion people cannot get a glimpse of the stars
on It. | Applause. ]
Let mo tell you whnt Judge Foster said of
Kaunas tlmt federal judge to whom I al
luded the ether day and It was put In print
and over Ills own slgnnturo ha authorized its
publication. Ho says that In IbbS the state
of Kansas had a population of l'JiJS,5J3 , and
had a prison population , mark you , produced ,
I suppose , as you good people suy , by the use
of liquor , ol 073 ; or , In , other words , QUO per
son out of every 1,885 Of oil the people of the
state of Kansas was in the penitentiary.
In Ncbruska during Iho sumo year wo had
only 2.VJ people In the penitentiary ;
n other words , ono out of every 2,800. ,
Jr , In other words , In prohibition Kansas ,
where they do not drink liquor , but follow
the goo-l inillonlum law which you preach ,
vou mvl two men In Uio penitentiary to one
ip hero in honest high license Nebraska.
So it was m 1SS3. But m.irk you i here Is n
statement that I want to read to this people
of the state of Nebraska , where thut saino
udgo said that la Nebraska the estimated
lopnlatlon Is l'iXWO , ' , by the census Just
ompleted , nnd yet -wo have but one person
out of every ; J,100 in the prison , Vompirod
with the state of Kansas where they have
one out of 1,000. The argument tlilt I mike
is that la Nebraska under high llconso you
tiavo less vooplo tn your ponlteu-
itentlarlcs. fewer people in > our poor houses ,
fewer In your insane asylums , fewer idiots ,
fewer saloons , fewer luiuor licenses than you
tiavo in any prohibition state any whcro under
the stars nnd suipos of this great republic.
[ Applause. ]
Another thing about high llcenso. I toll
you that high llccnsois n regulator , reducing
the number of saloons , and I want tot'.iko
this likewise from the onicial report of the
commissioner of internal revenue of the Uni
ted States ; nnd my friends can find it on
page 40 , If they want to look for It. The
decrease in liquor saloons nnd liquor licenses
for retail dealers. From the year 18SO to the
year 1SSU , the decrease in Alabama was
l.OH ; In Arkansas , n decraixo of ! W7 ; in
Florida , a dccrcnsoof SMO ; In Georgia , ( US ;
in Kansas. 5117 ; In Kentucky , 071 ; in Mis
souri , 811 ; In North Carolina , ( ! ! ! ; In Ohio ,
2,315 ; lu your grout state of Pennsylvania ,
which defeated prohibition , a decixwo of
7,010. In the state tif Tennessee , where
they defeated prohibition , under high Hccnso ,
a decrease of 1,310. I' , could go on , but my
tlmo Is short. The license duty of the gov
ernment of the United States , I don't care
what It Is , It is not prohibition. It Is whew
prohibition is defeated.
Mr. Small It Is hwal option.
Mr. Webster It'is ' iWhero they defeated
prohibition , and snowOdyou under , and you
know It.
Mr. Small His prohibition by local option ,
and you know It. It ia local option prohibi
tion in every state you * have mentioned but.
Pennsylvania. [ A Volco Shut up. ] I
won't do It.
Mr. Webster O , let htm talk ; ho can't '
help It ; don't llnd fault with him. [ Laugh
ter , j I want to remind my friend when ho
innrfn Mint. KtiitiMimntthnt In Ihn nro.smit fttato
of Nebraska whcro wo have worked pretty
well , wo have got local option , too. if it is
so goo 1 in all these states ns to accomplish
good results , it Is good enough for u , here.
That Is why wo reduced the number of sa
loons up hero. We nro getting to be a mod
erately virtuous people hero , mid If the people
ple outside would let ; us alone wo would get
along pretty well.
I will give another Illustration from Mr.
Blair's bouk to see about some of the exag
gerated statements which these people inako
to prove that prohibition amounts to some
thing ; nnd when thoy. want to talk about
prohibition they always .commence to makon
temperance speech , as.If it wore a distinct
individual propositioni Mr. Ulnlr pat * into
Ills book A remarkable table gotten from some
Insurance book , and found on page 107. IIo
wants to give the rate-or ratio of deaths out
"
of every" 1,000 : ho , dins pot the people
who do not drink at ujl , the prohibitionists ;
ho has the temperance , drinkers who only
tuko a glass socially and ho 1ms classitled the
intemperate fellows. Well , hero Is the table ;
before 1 give these who die between tbo ngcs
of sixty mid , ninety , .Twill suy thnt you and I
will bo lucky If wo over get to the tirst land-
imuic. "Well , I have a bettor chance than you
have when I road thi3 table. I will sliow It
to you : This table says that of the people
between sixty and ninety years old tlmt die
of intemperance and by hard drinking there
were 5(5,178. ( That I ? ovqrjialf oUhe 10 ( > ,000.
The moderate follo'.rS'.rv > ro'8i,2 ( > whTcti'only ,
left out of the 100.0JO about 11,000 prolitbltory
fellows. If that table proves anything ft
proves this ; That the men who drink the
most live the longest. Of course I do not be
lieve that table ; I thinkit is nil nonsense ; but
I think it is not a bit more nonsense than I
hear coming from some prohibition or.itovs
That statement Is vouched for by the. great
"
senator from a prohibition "State , New Hamp
shire , printed in his book as authentic , mid
vet la his foolishness lie forgot the fact that
it proved that intemperate people wcro the
long lived fellows ; and I tell you that is the
class that I want to belong to , because I am
not In a hurry to go. ( Laughter. ]
To give you another thought : I will not
refer to data and figures' because my time Is
too short. Tlmo keeps running along , and
Judging from the look , of admonition I got
from tlio prtuidcnt I do not thlnlc I have more
than flvo minutes. I want that Ilvo minutes
to make some general statements In answer
to some of the great hobbies that these people
put forth. These people tell us that la these
great Unltcu States the consumption of
liquor lias Increased from about
four gallons per capita to twelve
in 16SO. Now , as n general statement ,
I have to admit thero. Is some sort of truth In
that proposition ; but' 1 want to analyze It a
llttlo'blt , If these psDplo will look Into the
records they will llnd tlmt it is Just two gallons
lens per capita. Wo have today learned not
to get quite so drunk , 'and wo quit on whisky
nnd have taken something moderate , llko
beer. AVe only drank Just half the amount of
whisky that wo did ten or twelve year. , ago ;
but wo have taken mare boer , nnd ho adds
beer onto it , nnd computes it us If it wore so
much whisky consumed. Any temperance
man knows that , any tcmporanco preacher
knows that ; nnd If he did not ox pin in that to
you and tell you tlmt wlign ho talks , ho is
bimply ileecivtng you or fooling you. And on
that matter , I have heard so much said about
this great United States of ourspolm ; tn licll
at a great rate , ulmiily because of this liquor
trafile , I want to tell this audience , aj > d in that
I want to speak for America , that this great
nation of ours stands today the poor if not tbo
superior of any ether nation on the top of
God's foot-stool. [ Applause. ] I tell this
same people that ovcriu Italy they drink over
two gallons per bead of liquors whcro In the
United States tboy ilriak ono. CJo over to
'
England , aild where yo'u get twelve gallons
of drink you have got thirty-threo over
there. Go to franco , nnd when you have hut
twelve gallons per head hero you have twen-
tv-three gallons pur head over there. Goto
Ocrmany , go to Austria , to franco , to Italy ,
KO nny where without the boundaries of the
Unlte'd States , whcro men can Ilvo and where
commerce spread * its white sails , all over
the worlil , and you will fliul that every people -
plo consume from twlea to three times
the amount of liimor c0usumed In America ;
and yet thoj have brwbis In their heads , they
have vast armies , they have statesmen nnd
they have not yet goue'to ruin.
If my friend vent to.Omaha logo the opera
house to hoar a grand Opera , ho would prob
ably hear H rendered by some comp my from
wine drinking Italy.v If ho looks for a pleco
of line art or sculpturoho would bo apt to find
some frenchman who jurank twice ns nuich
wlno In order to make It. If ho wanted to got
an Iron ship to sail over the dark seas , since
they have all lied from little Maine , the pro
hibition stato. ho would go and buy It from
ISnglaud , where they ; drink three time.s as
much beer nnd whisky as wo do. History has
recorded the fact mid no man can intell
igently refute it , that In Austria , In Franco
and la Germany and England there are great ,
brainy statesmen equal to any we have got in
America. There is Gladstone. In whisky and
beer drinking England : there is the Iron man ,
Blsmnrk , in boer drnUlng | Germany ; there
was the old hUtorbm , tiuizot , in the wine
drinking franco , and the great novelist , Vic
tor Hugo. When "yoii go for literature , for
art , for poetry , for ho.iutynnd for civilization ,
when you step outside the lines of the borders
of the great republic of the United State. ) nnd
go beyond the shqlow of the tUu-.s mid
stripes , you have to go to a country where
they drink three times as much as you do ,
and they do uot have any prohibition.tlicro.
They Hnvu Ili * ti Soon ,
Loxnox , July 10.-Special [ Cablegram to
TUB Bnn.--Tho. ] stpamw Normatilo , from
New York for HSinburg , passed Belli ) ' this
morning. The' steamer Biittunnlc , from
New York for Liverpool , passed f astnct this
morning.
AVant it Million.
Niw : VOIIK , Julj -Kiddcr , Peabedy &
Co. have ordered $ lWO,000 in gold for ship
ment to Kuropo.
HE LEAVES IT TO THE CAUCUS
The President Dtcliues to Interfere iu the
Elections Bill Legislation.
IT WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.
Senator I'adduuk'H
Amcmliinnt to
th-3 Suuilry Appr < > j > rliitlnas Illll-
IjainbL'rlson'N Htronj ; Ai' uineut
The Spenkcf's Dry Heiuaik.
WASHINGTON nuiiKtu Tun OMAIII n c ,
Mi ) VouitTixxTir STIIKBT.
WAsmsoroN , D. 0. , July 10.
An nttcmpt has been imulo to secure the
infltienco of the president la support of the
federal elections bill. Several republican
senators who nro earnest In their deslro to
pass that measure ) before tlio adjournment of
congress called at the whlto house yesterday
and today to discuss the subjcctaud endeavor
to cominco him that the passage of the elec
tions bill was not only necessary to secure n
free ballot and a fair count In tbo senate , but
was good politics In the north. The presi
dent is quoted as saying that ho recognized
the Importance of some such law as that
under consideration , but ho was not sunlel-
cntly familiar with the terms of the bll | to
give It Ids unqunlllled endorsement. So far
us ho was able to judge from a casual
reading of the printed text ho thought
it was n llttlo too complex * nnd
jadlcal in some of its provisions nnd that
some modilleations would give It greater
popularity In the north and make it less of
fensive to the south. It can uot bo learned
just what modifications ho suggested , but it
is known that ho prefers the bill originally
prepared by Mr. Itowoll of Illinois , which
was simply an extension of tlio supervision
system 4o the pending measure , which is a
combination of the Itowell and tbo Lodge
bills , going n good deal further than the one
ami not quite so far ns the latter. IIo is ,
however , reported to have positively do-
cimeu 10 iniericro in ino icgismuon nun 10
have said that the consideration of the bill
was u matter to bo decided by the rcpu bltean
causus nnd not by tbo executive
The sundry civil appropriation bill which
has just been reported to the senate from its
committee on appropriations contains , ns an
ticipated In these dispatches , Senator Pad-
dock's amendment increasing : from f-'JOWO ) ' ( to
$ ' ! 00,000 the appropriation for topographic
surveys in various portions of thu United
States , Thoiiinciylincnt says : "One-half of this
sum shall ue expended west of the ono hundred
nnd Jlrst meridian ; nnd so much of the act of
Octobers , 1SS3 , entitled 'an act milking ap
propriations for sundry civil expenses of the
government for tile fiscal year ending' Juno
SO , ISS'.i ' , and for other purposes' us provides
for tlio selection of nnd location of reservoirs
and canals upon the public lands and the
reservation of irrigable hinds is hereby re
pealed. Provided , that reservoir nnd cannl
sites heretofore located or selected small re
main segated niul preserved from entiy or
settlement until otherwise provided by law. "
This will result in the repeal of the law
which practically withdraws from entry the
entire publio domain in the northwest and
southwest nnd moat of that in the west be
yond the Missouri river , and which law bus
made much complaint on the part of far west
ern congressmen this BOSS'
' " . ' - ? A Dlllf URHA.UK. .
By nn oversight the flag on the side of the
capital was run up to the masthead upon the
assembling of congress today , It caused con
siderable comment , and General Wheeler of
Alabama'who , at ono tlmo commanded tlio
entlro cavalry of the confederacy , arose
and called Speaker Heed's attention to It.
The speaker dryly replied : "Tbo clmlr is
very glad to learn that the gentleman from
Alabama now manifests an interest iu tbo
subject. The omission will bo corrected. "
'
. STATUS OP Till : CKN3U8 ,
it Is very probable that in the matter of
population New York will bo the most disap
pointed city in the union when the onicial re
turns to the census bureau are made known.
It is expected that the count of Now York
will bo Mulshed tomorrow morning or tomor
row afternoon , and it is generally
believed that this onicial count will
show that the rough estimate by the
supervisors of Now York placing the popula
tion of the metropolis at 1T0J,0X ( ) was no less
than J.MOJO ( , ubovo the number. In other
words New York's population will only bo
about l.MW.O'JO. . ' Chicago and Philadelphia
are still nip and tuck for second place. Their
population will bo in the neighborhood of
Ia03,00l ) , with a slight variation for the third
place , lirooldya conies fourth with some
600,000 populationSt. , Louis llfth with -M3- ,
< WO. Boston with 137,000 comes sixth , Haiti-
more seventh with m.ttW. It is likely that
Cincinnati will bo eighth and Sun Francisco
ninth. Htr.ingo as It may appear the metrop
olis of the Pacific slope is hard pressed lor
Uio ninth position by the comparatively lu-
signlllcunt town of Buffalo hi New
York. BuffaloH Incrciiso in the last
ten years has bcca phenomenal , and it Is
by no means improbable that It has out
stripped San Francisco , It is almost too early
as yet to indulge In comment on the general
result of the census , but It may bo stated that
while the rate of increase in the northern and
Atlantic slope states has been about the same
tlio western states have increased at an al
most fabulous rate. Of the southern
states , Alabama , Georgia and Toxns
will show a marvelous increase of popu
lation , but tlio other southern states will re
main about the snino. Ia this connection It
may bo mentioned that it Is very probable
tills census will show that Uio rate of In-
ereaso among the blacks has fallen far be
hind tlio r.ito of Increase of the whites , a fact
which will go to disprove many of
the statements regarding the fecundity
of the colored race. The cen
sus bureau is now enumerating the
returns at the ruto of ono million a d.iy. As
a matter of fact two millions a day aru being
counted , because on each day , beshlo the one
million of new mimes counted the million
counted the previous day are recounted to
insure absolute accuracy. It is believed tbat
the population of the United States will bo
about sixty-six million. On this basis it will
take at least sixty days and possibly seventy
to complete the entire count. As tlio count
was begun more than two weeks ngo it Is
reasonable to bcllovo that It will bo con
cluded about the Jlrst of September. The
question now suggests Itself whether or not It
may bo feasible lor the present conitress to
determine tlio rcapportionment. Tlio out
look is that it will bo distinctly pos
sible and certainly desirable to deter
mine the rcapportiomcnt at the
present session. There is ovcry prospect
that congress will bo la session jinlll alter
September 1 If the fedi-rul elections bill is
taken up , nnd there Is no reason why the
house committee on tbo census nhould not bo
determining Iho rcapportionment. This has
been suggested as ono reason why the demo
crats in the semite may consent to an early
adjournment , as It Is manifestly to their dls
advantage to lota reappoitloninent bill pass
at this session. It is generally conceded that
the Increase In population being principally fn
the western states , the increase. In the re-pro-
scntntloii in congress will also como up from
those DtaUu , inn ] as I boy are mostly republi
can thoreapDortlonmcnt cannot but be favor
able to the republican party.
onxHiui , Moiiuow wn.i , im ro\Bii > niii : > ,
Today Mr. Dewey called upon the presi
dent nnd urged the appointment of General
Morrow to the vacancy occasioned by the re
tirement of Ucncr.d Grlonon. IIo presented
a tabulated record of General Morrow as a
civilian and soldier. The pros-Wont made no
promises , but spako very kindly and encour
agingly of General Morrow , and said ho was
conversant with hU splendid record and
would give It the consideration which it com
manded.
I.AMIIIKTSON'S : ' . .norMr..s'T.
Yesterday a hearing was had before the
Interstate commerce commission on the ques
tion of whether the proponed reduction of
tbc coimnisslou for the transportation of corn
from the Missouri r' ' 4\to Chicago to 17
cents should bo put I. y > by mi order of
ho commission. It \ vvmemboml tlmt
this Investigation wale pursuant ton
resolution offered bv \ T"r I'nddock In-
Rlructiinr the roiimils.sltVnd \ whether or
uot rates were rev * , \lo for tlio
ransportatlo.i of fw , VvluetM from
Nebraska anil Kansai < < Yhleago and
the seuboaril. Mr. ' * Vidker , m
chairman of the Jntoir \ Commerce
CaiUvav association tiled air Vcntngalmt
the jurisdiction of thu conn , Vi to make
in order In the absence of atlntand In
.ho absence of nn opporttnl Vntf given
for a hearing , Tbo other nil is repre
sented by .Mr. Dausinan In behalf of tlio
> oard of trade of Chicago and tl , M. Lam-
iortson. who appeared nt the rennest of CJov-
ernor Tnayernniioii nclnilf of tlio farmers'
illlaneoof the state of NobrasUa. Thostnto
if Iowa was ropresoiitod by Messrs.
Uabcock and Smltb. on behalf of tlio
board of transportation of that state ,
mil tbo state of ICatuas by Judge
ilumphroy nnd ex-Governor Anthony.
Mr. Lambertson delivered an argument of
over an hour's length , very thoroughly cov
ering the position assumed by him nt tlio
tearing given by Iho commission nt Lincoln ,
Neb. Ho produced u very Impnrtnnt series
of statistics showing- that the proposed re
duction was reasonable from the standpoints
of the iiit4-s at present In operation. Ho
showed that the road * Interested wcro now
mrryingcoru at a secret rate of ftir below
the proposed rate to bo put In. Several
ncmbors of the commission , at tlio conclusion
of Mr. Lninborson's nrtfuniciit , asked him
: o have It printed for distribution. Senator
[ ? .iddock was present at the hearing M an in
terested listener , as wore also several mem
bers of congress from the state of Iowa.
Then ) nro now In Washington but few
more than half of tlio iiiembo'H of the house
) f representative : ! perhaps 175 in all and It
s Impossible under this state of ulTiih-sfor
iny business to bo transacted. Among tlio
ibscntoes from the western states aroMossrs.
I Iciidcrsnti. Hill , Utiic , Springer and Lawlcrof
Illinois. . ! . 11 , Brown , T. M , Browne , Copper
mil O'ls'eillof Indiana , Urewor , OM'onnoll ,
rursnoy , WlieolerandVliltlngot Michigan ,
ICclley and Turner of Kansas , Btrublo and
Ivcrr of Iowa , Haves of Ohio. Clnrlc ofVls -
consin. Uartcrof Montana , ( afford and Pick-
ler of South Dahota , llansbrougli of North
Dakota , HaUf Minnesota and Townioml of
Colorado.
MI-CHl.IAXKOUS.
Upon the advice of his physician Senator
Manderson loft this morning for n week's
atay at the coast of Maine.
1'minvS. HUVTII.
UKSTItOYJMt JtTIIK FfAJl K8 ,
I'lro nt Fort tic Krnnuo
MaUos I'liiiiiH.inilM Homeless.
POUT OK SPAIX , .luno 20 , Tlio de-lulls con
cerning the destruction June 22 , of the town
of Fort do Prance , in the French Island of
Alartlnlime , lijivo just rcnchcd hero. Im-
mciluitcly after the catastroidio Governor
Cassoof Martinlimo sent na appeal for as
sistance to the govcrmncntof Trinidad , assur
ing him that three-quarters of the town had
been burned and that more than 11 vothotisand
persons wcro without homes and food. The
legislative council immediately voted SJ.OOO .
in aid of tlio sufferers.
On the morning of Juno 22 , on the receipt
of the news of the llro nt IToi't do France.
two steamers , with men and pumps on board
were scut from St , Pierre , and on their
urrivnl at I'ort do Franco at nbout hall' past
one , the whole seaboard was In flames. Tlio
llro had destroyed everything with
in n space of over one hundred
yards up to the river Madame , It was not
until the woodwork of the president's ofileo
had caught llro that tbo pumps arrived and
organized measuroa woro.mloptedbasuvothe
buildings , which , after houra of hard strug
gle , was accomplished ,
Meanwhile the cathedral was in flames nnd
was soon In ruins. The panic now became
general. Women and children wove scream
ing and rniminghithcr and thither , nnd fur
niture was being thrown , out of windows into
the street's until they became almost impass
able. At the last moment , \vbeii It was too
late , dynamite was employed to nrrost the
progress of the lire. Terrlllc explosions were
beard and blocks of buildings were acen to
fall , killing some and wounding many per
sons.
sons.At night the fire had consumed everything
between the Rue do ITosso and the sea , and
between the bnvanwi and Hlvor Madame.
At about 10 p. in. , tliohoutcs at the bottom of
the Hue du Government were attached and
only by strenuous eilorts wcro the presby
tery and ficndurmexio saved. Had they fallen
the whole town must have been consumed.
It was right there tlmt the progress of the
flames were stayed.
The sight the uoxt morning wna pitiful and
harrowing in the extreme. The savanna
was strewn with odds and ends , in the midst
of which were ramped tbo whole population ,
suJYeiing from hunger , thirst and cold , . for
near morning rain had fallen , chilling to the
bonothoseof tbo unfortunate people who had
no ether shelter than tlmt offered by the
trcos.
The loss is very considerable , 1,700 houses
having been destroyed , valued at 12,000,000
friines ( J , 100,000) ) , and furniture valued at
,00,000 , ( ) fi-.incs , making n total 4oss of
$3,000,000. ,
It Is impossible nt this moment to
tell the number of victims. Twelve
bodies have , however , been recovered , ninny
charred beyond recognition nnd others fear
fully mutilated. Fifteen soldiers nro receiv
ing attention nt the hospital , many of them
being seriously and ono it la said fatally
wounded , The number ot civilians Injured is
considerable.
Fully three-quarters of the town is de
stroyed and seven-eighths of the inhabitants
nro homeless. The vnilous Hrillsh West
India Islands have aided with grants of money
their nniictcd sister colony.
To Innpoot AIII rluaa Cuttle.
'WASHINGTON' , July 10. The department of
state , nt tbo suggestion of Secretary Ittislc ,
has effected an arrangement for the appoint
ment of three veterinary Inspectors for the
purpose of inspecting nil American cattle
laiiillng in Great Britain ,
The secretary said today that the restric
tions of the British government upon tlio Im
portation of bcof rattle from this country on
the groundless pleaof continued exposure to
contagious c.ittlo diseases In the Unite ]
SUiU\s wcro unmstlllablonnd had lasted long
caouirh. IIo now proposed to prove to the
satisfaction of the British authorities that
no disease exists in this country to warrant
these restrictions. If tlio restrictions are
maintained in plto of this evidence sonio
other cause must 1)3 assigned for thorn ,
ntVork. .
YANKTON- . D. , July 10.-Rpcclal [ Tele
pram to Tim Jlr.i : . ] A scmi-oflluiul announce
ment of the intention of the Chicago it North
western railway company to build eighteen
miles of road from Hnrtlngton , Neb. , to Atcn ,
opposite V'ankton on tbo Missouri river , was
made hero today. A party of nurvoyors Is nt
work between vankton and Uandolph , Nob. ,
ostensibly for private Individuals. Kumlolpli
Is on the Union Pnclllo and the surveyors are
believed to bo la the employ of that road.
Down ( lnoHtlio lloor.
CnicAfio , July 10 , A local paper says a big
fight Is on among the bivu'on of this city. U
lies between , the English syndicate , which
has bought up a number of the largest brew
eries In the city , and some of the smaller
breweries , and the result of the Ihhtso far
has boon the dropping of prices TromSSto
W.fjO per barrel. Ouhldo brewers nro In
augurating cuts. _ _ _
An 101 'lit- our Day ,
WASIIINOTON , July 10. Mr. Illtss , from
the committee on labor , today icportcd
favorably with amendments the bill consti
tuting eight hours n day's ' w > rk for all
laborers employed by the government ,
Ilraltemcn tind Swltuliiiioii Strllco.
I/jrisviM.K , Ky. , July 10. About three
hundred Louljvlllo&NiishvlllobraUomon ami
switchmen liavo gene on a strike hero , Traf-
Jlols blocked and about ono hundred earn of
fruits and other perishable goods are In tbo
yards.
rnvrn t'PCMAXT 11 1111 nPi iM\i VPC *
lOMlSSIONAL PROChliDUCS ,
After a long Dobalo tlio Scnnto Agrees t < )
tbo Silver Bill ,
EHATOR MORGAN \VAS WOUND UP ,
UH Throe-Huiiv SpiMM'hVim In Vnlu-
Senator 1'lu ' ml ) "W n 1C pis rum-
mutlcnl-Tlilrty-Miio Suy Y"e
niul TwatySl.\ .
\V MIIX < ITOX.Tul.vlO. ( In tlio senate today
Ir. Stewart otiercdn rosoiihitlon , which was
greed to , calling on tlio secretary of tlio in <
erior for Information ns to tlio scloi'tion of
lies for rcservelra by the director of the gee *
ogioid survey.
The senate resumed -tbo consideration of
lie conference report on the silver lilll nud
vns addressed by Air. Morgan lu opposition
o tlio report. Ho expected today was to ba
110 crisis In the question or currency to tlio
looploo film United States as niuclv so , In
wgiird to tlio demoralization of diver and
ho confining of L'oluto tlio single ( -old stand.
rd , iia was tlio > id of 1S7U. lid
Id not know but that tlio effect
f tlio vote to bo taken today ( If It
houlil result In the niloiitlon of tlio confer *
nco bill ) \vouhl \ not bo really more fat id to
ho prospect of silver coinage lutho future
linn tlio not of 1ST ; } . Tlio legislation of
STyii.ul boon , ho said , nnactof colil-bloodoU
ssassinallon of tlio Hiker dollar. It hail
boon presided over by the saino senator
vhoso "fine Italian haiul" w\s \ to bo soon In
io iinfoi'cnci ! bill , si 1)111 ) ivliiohVII.H \ ntotnl
oparturofrom the nrtlon > f both the liouso
nil tlio sotinto. Mr. Morgan went on
0 spcnlt of the legislation of all the
niportant matters being- HOW entirely
ontrollod by confer.onco committees whrvst
> roci-cdings wcro secret , so that If the coin *
iiUU'owi'i-o bribed tottiooxtont of JIOl , WKlOiiO
10 senator would bo permitted to Hud It out.
Mr. Allison remarked 'hat there \vus no
loeessary secrecy nbnuttha confcroneo com *
nitti-o's. They were public committees.
Air , Morgan replied to that roinirk by say *
iigthat In this very discussion Mr. Sherman ,
md declined to answer a iinestion us to tha
irocccdlngH of the conference committee oil
ho ground thatsueli proceedings wro secret.
Air. Slicnnim said he hud novcr dunled the t >
ho senate any In formation ai to whnt too' *
ihu-o in tlio conforenco.
Continuing1 , Air. Morgan predicted
hat when others of the con-
'orees ' eiuno to realize ivlint they
uiJdone , they would foci lllo ; kicking themselves -
selves over a tea ncro Jield. The hill \voiilil \ ,
nonomctiillzotlio country , would nialto ( roll
lie only tiling with which to pay debts or to
my property. The friends of tlio senator
rom Ohio ( utter twelve months considera
tion ) huvollxed upon ii bill tlmt would mow
thoroughly destroy silver forever than tlio
conference bill would.
I\Ir. \ Morgan spoke for three hours and
closed with an npito.il to the senators not to"
dlow the senator from Ohio ( Slioriiiauj to
thrust hU stiWtto again Into kllvcr ,
Air. Call also argued against the conference
once report.
Jlr. I'lutnlibpolw in Its favor. Thcconfer-
cnco bill would give the country as much
nonov during tlicncxt year us free colnnxa
vould givo. The bill is n long slcp In the
ifjht illroctlou. It is Mr , Pliimti's belief
Unit If tlio bill becomes a huv so nicely and
easily will It worltnr.'l so helpful will II be to
111 the people of tlio Unltoil States tlmt tlio-
icxtst - | > will bo free coinage. IIo would
votofortho conference bill , regretting It Is
10 better , glnd It is no worse ,
After further debate n vote wns then taken
mil the tbo eonforcneo agreed , to--yeas W ,
mvs'JO , as folloxvs :
yeas Aldrlch , Allen , AUIi > on , ] JlntrCiwcy , ,
Cullom , Davis , rJawes. Dixon , Dolph , re
minds. Evnrls , lAirwell , Frye , Hawley , 111 * .
Kins , Hlscoek , Hoar , IiiR.ills. Jones [ Nevada ] ,
McMillan. Alandcison , Mitchell , Moody , Pol-
.igrew , 1'lorcc , Plait , I'luiiib , Power , Quny ,
Sanders , Sawyer , Shovimui , Spooncr , isqnlre.
Sfmv.irt , Stqckeildge , Wihhburn , AVolcott
39.
Niiya-Barbour , Bnlo , Hlncl < burn. Call ,
Carlisle , Cockroll , Goko , Cohitiltt , U.inlcl ,
l-'aulkncr , Oibaon , Gorman , Hampton , Ilar-
is , Jones of Arkansas , Keniia , MePburapn ,
'aseo , Pugh , HiuiHoin , Ileaj.ui , Tnrplo ,
Vnnco. Vest , voorhcesValthall Jtt.
The following pairs wura announced : Ilnlo
indCtrnr , Glmiidleraiid Hroira , I'nd loekancl
2ustia , Toiler and Berry , Wilson o [ Iowa
uid Wilson of Maryland.
Adjourned ,
Mouse.
WASIIISOTOX , July 10.After pr.iycr this
morning the democratic programme AVDS
opened by Outh\valte ruislii ( ? a joint of order
that there was no quorum present. This pu
1 stop to business for a short time , butwlien
i quorum _ lliully appeared ether dilatory mo
tions were offered by the democratic mem-
jers , Avhlch hud the effect of prcvuntlng nny
jusiuesi.
Mr. Unlooof Tcnncsseo wanted the Jour-
iiidcorreeted , it being recorded that on a
certain vote ho was present and not votliif. (
lie was not present during that vote. Uur-
Ing the talk on this matter Air. Hogors of
Arkansas trained the floor and inado a speech
in which ho discussed In a sarcastic vein the
now rules of the house , etc. Speaking of
the matter ofa , free ballot and a fair co'unt ,
ho said n fair count could not bo obtained In
this house. Ho then quoted from
and commented upon la an ironical manner
Speaker Kccd's article in the North Ameri
can Review on tbo Kubject of contested elec
tions , lie commended to the other side ot the
house tbo article In the North American Ito-
vlow slirned "X. M. O , " lie wis told a lady
had written It , hut it was said the real author-
was tv distinguished statesman from Miilno ,
who held a high nnd honorable position un--
tier the present administration.
At the conclusion of his remarks Iho jour
nal win amended n.s suggested by Knloo.
Mr. I'lthlan and Mr. Williams of Illinois
then rose to have the joiinml corrected , but
the temporary sieiitcer | , Air. Uurronghs , rco-
oiinix.cu Mr. Ciinnon , who inovnd the np-
provulof the Joiirnul nnd doinanded the pre
vious question. The previous question \vaa \
ordered 101 toiS / tlio speaker collating *
( luoruin.
Mr. Fltblnn and Air.Villlams then s | > eke
nt some length about nn error la iccorilliit ;
their iiiunes. both .suilliiK' that they wore not
present durliif ? roll call.
Mi- . Cannon replied trial It made no differ
ence. If the rules could bo evaded by amnn
stepping outof the house 11 second bcforchls
name was culled and stepping Imck after It
wns called the rule nmountcd to nothing.
Tlio j-'cntlcniim hud Iwan prtMont according to
bis owi bhowItH'aiulovenlf howpanot thorp
was a quorum without him , so ho ( Cannon )
( IId not sco what harm there was In movinp ?
the previous question , liver slnco the day
before yostnrdav tbo remibl leans bud ! < n
trydiKto dohUBlnosH , Thitmornltigttin witty
feMitlcmanfromArkaiisas Ir.Itogcrs , w std
un hour Bcoldlng Ihorupuwifani , . It wnttb-
vlaustho deiaocrutH didn't ' want to le IMuto.
They did not vniit the diplomatic nnd con.-
sular bill considered , It was evident tint it
legislation was tn bo bad the republican rcp-
rescnlntlves must be In their | ilat' < s nnd must
do tbo legislation. If the gentlemen wcro
absent on account of sIcUnosH bo lionrd tlmv
would speedily recover and coino unilt , It
tboy wore absent by l vo of tholunibo ho
was satlslleil tboy would return. There were
Important bills to bo iia-ssoJ , 'J'hcro wcro
ulttlni , ' vroncfuHy In this house mombtr *
not t-iitltlnl to bit hero , and the republican * )
o\vo < l It to'lhcMnselvos to semttio ini'n who
were entitled tflsoahln spltoof all the com-
mini scolds In Iho United States. [ Itcnubll *
can npplaubo.l
Air. Mi'.M111 in of 1'onnossco contended a
mcmlor must bit present and refiuo to vote
In order to lve the spoukor Ilie right to i-o-
cord bis name , The Konlleman from ( lllnui )
( C'aiinonj bud suld the democrats did i iH
want to consider tliedliilomatlo and I'onnuiar
appropriation bill. That bill unpvoi > il.AlcU If