thursdsy. October 2, Wo page o daily nebraskan - White House come of comesfcecom Butz shuffles slices, jousts with J.J. By Dkk Ptersol Omaha-Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz played a little show and tell with those attending the White House Confer ence on Domestic and Economic Affairs Wednesday. He also carried on a verbal joust with Gov. J. James Exon that up to now has appeared only in print. Butz opened a loaf of bread and demon strated how much of the cost of that loaf went to the fanner who produced the wheat that made it. Two slices and a heel, at a cost of about seven cents, was roughly the share the farmer got, according to Butz. The rest of the cost of the loaf, he said, went to the middlemen between the farmer and the consumer. Butz said it costs more to deliver bread from the baker to the grocer than the fanner receives in produc ing wheat for a loaf. Exon questions Later, s Exon took the microphone to ask Butz a question, Butz told Exon he could use the somewhat unstable podium which had caused several interruptions in Butz's bread demonstration. Exon replied, "I'd rather be down here with the people." Exon has publicly called for Butz's resignation or dismissal on , several occasions. Saying it was the responsibility of all agricultural leaders, himself and Butz in cluded, to stop driving a wedge between consumers and farmers, Exon said their long-range interests are the s&mo. He said one of Butz's comments-that truck drivers should start working as hard as fanners-was unnecessary. At a press conference later, Butz referred to politicians using food prices as an issue as demagogues. When asked if he considered Exon a demagogue, he replied, "I don't have to dip that low. I'm a bit of a demagogue myself, at times. Butz said the chances for an early end to the embargo on grain sales to the Soviet Union and Poland are good. He said the United States and Russia are "quite close' to a long-term agricultural trade agreement. Chances that further grain sales to Russia this year would cause domestic food prices to rise are slim, according to Butz. He said the-market has already absorbed the effects of potential sales. The agriculture secretary also said that the recent 3 per cent price increase in wholesale farm products would have little or no effect on food prices. -v Union criticized Butz said criticism of the sales to Russia is either alarmist or politically motivated. He also criticized the AFL-ClO's longshore men for their refusal to load grain bound for Russia. "If those unions were really interested in the cost of food for an Omaha house wife, they'd quit the kind of featherbedd ing that really contributes to increases in the cost of living. These grain sales are necessary to the American farmer," Butz said. He said most food price increases are caused by food industry labor union featherbedding, which is padding the pay roll with unnecessary laborers. . "One txample is this. This morning, about 100 trucks left Sioux City (Iowa) half loaded with whole beef carcasses. That is because there is a rule in the meatcutters union that those carcasses can't be cut up until they reach the market in New York or Boston," Butz said. Grain indictments Other topics discussed by the agricul ture secretary: - Butz called recent indictments handed down in New Orleans for alleged deliberate misgrading of grain" "unfortunate." He said part of the problem is that grain is the only agricultural commodity inspected by private companies. Butz said he wants public inspection but there is a problem with getting the man power and money necessaiy to do it He said legislation is pending in Congress to give the agriculture secretary more power to deal with what he said were "so-called scandals." Butz said as long as he is agriculture secretary, the government will not buy grain and store it in reserve. He said a suf ficient reserve is being held by elevators and farmers. Fanner complains -One Papio valley farmer told Butz he had written several letters to him com plaining of Army Corps of Engineers plans to take IS, 000 acres out cf farm produc tion and had never received a reply. Butz ' said that was an unusual case and would check it when he returned to Washington. -Butz said the nation is just starting to use its "agripower" to its own advantage and to the benefit of the rest of the world. He quotes Mahatma Gandhi, the 20th century Indian political and spiritual leader, saying that even God dare not approach a hungry man except in the form of bread. "That's the language we're prepared to speak." i Secretary o Environment chief swats at DDT critics By Dick Piersol Omaha-As administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Russell Train is responsible for the largest public works program in the nation's history-granting federal money to finance municipal waste treatment in cities across the nation. Train said the total cost probably would states' estimates runs as high as $350 billion. s Last year, S3.6 billion was granted, $5.5 hjllion will be spent this year and Train said $6 billion will be allocated in the next fiscal year. The figures do not include the costs of cleaning up America's Industrial waste. That task may take $5 billion to $10 billion per year until the job is dona, Train said. Question raised Train was one of the participants in the White House Conference on Domestic and Economic Affairs in Omaha. He had not been in town more than a few hours when he said one of his colleagues raised a ques tion he called "widely misunderstood." At a meeting of Ford Administration officials innd area 'nevspapef publishers Tuesday Eight, Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz mentionad the ban on the use of DDT in effect since 1972, Train said. Newspapers in Dallas, Oklahoma City and a House of Representatives Agflcul tural Committee minority report recently have accused the EPA of encouraging out breaks of encephalitis by not allowing the use of DDT on diseasearrying mosquitoes. "That is just not true," Train said. "When the ban on DDT was made, the EPA made it clear that it could be used in health emergencies. There is not one ap plication for its use on file in Washington or any of the regional offices." Other insecticides Tiain said tnosquitos are practically immune to DDT and that at least twelve other insecticides in common use could do the job. He said he has personally approved the use of DDT, since its ban, in a case involv ing rabid bats. , "There are some people around who just want to discredit the EPA," he said. "I notice Secretary Butz brought up DDT a couple of times in his talks today." Train said citizens encourage spending hundreds of millions of dollars on cures for cancer, but when the EPA tries to isolate and eliminate carcinogens (cancer-causing agents) from the enviomment, he is accused of being an alannist. Medkal bill He said the United States has the highest annual medical bill in the wotld $95 billlon-and that little of that is spent controlling communicable diseases. "Americans' health is endangered most by stress, noise, chemicals and carcino gens. Respiratory ailments caused by hydrocarbons, particulates, sulfates and everything else flo&ting around in the air are killing people every day. We need to spend i lot of momy to prevent those conditions. 'The total costs of cleaning up the environment are going to be about one per cent of the gross national product-maybe a little higher. But there is a net profit in that effort," he said. "Aside from the citizens' health, con sider the advantages of clean water for rec reation and the aesthetic value of it air It's damned hard to quantify what it's really worth to the nation." African safaris Train said his concern for the environ ment began in the mid 1950s, "when I went on a couple of fancy safaris in Africa." "The British were running East Africa then, he said. "They were abusing the wilderness, the parks and game reserves and weren't training any Africans in wildlife management. "I started helping African students come to the U.S. to study at wildlife man agement and conservation schools." At that time he was head of the tax legal staff in the Treasury Dept. Later, rill JHwei PPonted him judge of the VS. Tax Court. In 1966 ha started the Conservation Foundation, a privately financed research and education group. . During the first Nixon Administration IniT88 und.ers"tary of the Inte.io and later chairman of the Council on Emrtronmental Quality. He became ad mlrdstrator of the EPA in September 1973 . ... Tirad of tne to full-time conservation work," he said. r - ifgy Russell Train, administrator t the Trak said the EPA also is work decrease America's dependence u "We spent Sft million on solars research last year. This yar w -r $60 million, , . tJ "Solar energy may soon be PjS Individual homeowners," ho saw. wUl be years before we can ma P energy that way. The fteildentjMj swimming pool with solar energy j Eattsy posafcflltw I Train tald he is chairman of North Atlas tic Treaty Organ.--- raittee spiyinj geothennai v Dean nations luva much more w