FRIDAY, NOVEMBbR
Reaction mixed
on Viet concern
More than 100 student
canvassers received a mixed
reaction from members of
th "silent majority" when
the students sought to pro
vide Lincolnites with in
formation about America's
growing concern for the war
in Vietnam.
Stressing the need for more
students to help canvass, Jim
Riodan, canvassing coordi
nator, said that, "if wa can
reach enough people with
enough information, then
people's ideas about the war
will begin to change."
He said the canvassing ef
fort was not an attempt to
"convert" people outright
but, "to open minds to
aspects of the war not
presented in the conventional
news."
"We want to change the
idea of the war from a five
o'clock news-war to an im
mediate problem confronting
people in Lincoln." he add
ed. Few Lincolnites refused to
talk, or listen, but many ex
pressed disapproval of pro
testers. Canvassers agreed
that nearly everyone was
against the war or. disap
proved of it. but there was
also much disagreement over
how the war should be end
ed. One canvasser said that in
hisexperien.ee. "out of every
20 people you see, 2 or 3
refuse to listen. 2 or 3 will be
unsympathetic, about 8 or 10
will be willing to or in
terested in listening and
talking and 4 or 5 will be all
for you."
Reports indicated that
support for immediate or
rapid withdrawal was about
equal to support of the
AAUP conference
at Nebr. Center
The annual fail meeting of
the Nebraska State American
Association of University
ITofessors (AAUP) will be
held at the Nebraska Center
for Continuing' Education on
Nov. 14 and 15.
Krwin Goldenstein will
chair a panel on the role of
p rofessional associations.
Panelists will be Jack
Spalding of Omaha represen
ting the American Federa-
Speech 109
to present
'Alii-
A cutting from "Alice in
Wonderland"- will be pre
sented bv Reader's Theatre
Nov. 13-i9 at 8 p.m. in 201
Temple Building.
The cutting was made by
Maxtne Trauernicht, the fac
ulty sponsor for Reader's
Theatre.
Student director Bill Szy
manskl has been rehearsing
the cast for three weeks. The
production includes mood
lighting, slides projected on
the set and just a hint of
costumes.
The cast is drawn from
students in speech 100. S.y
manski's voice will quote
Unvis Carroll's diary and
letters as introduction.
"There's a thin line between
acting and Reader's Thea
tre." SzvmansU. related,
"all expression Is through the
voice and facial reactions."
Canterbury Tales will be
offered bv Reader's Theatre
on Thursday and Friday. The
Student director is Ray Mc-Milllan.
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President's proposals to end
the war. One canvassing
organizer said that though
some people were unfriendly,
he hadn't seen any can
vassers come back really
depressed by Lincolnites'
reaction.
"The march was symbolic
of what we stand for, but now
it's time to get out and do a
little work, to act for what
we stand for." Riordan said,
referring to last month's
Moratorium march in Lin
coln. He also expressed the hope
that some of the 4,000 who
marched would help with the
canvassing on Friday,
Saturday and Sunday.
Riordan said. "The war
has gone on so long that now
people accept it as an
everyday, normal thing.
"Perhaps by reaching
people we can shake them
out of their apathy. The war
doesn't have to be accepted.
There is something people
can do about it."
He said there should be a
re-democraticization, a vin.
dication of the democratic
process. He urged people to
make their .voices heard and
hoped that leaders would
listen.
Canvassing is being car
ried on throughout Lincoln in
residential areas, on campus
and in the downtown area.
Anyone wishing to help
should go to the Student
Union Room 345. Section 9,
Riordan added.
"We believe that the silent
majority can no longer re
main silent." he said. "We
also want to rid Nebraska of
the idea that peace is un
American. Perhaps peace
could be as American as
Roman Ilruska."
tion of Teachers; Robert
Johnson of Lincoln for the
National Education Associa
tion; Dr. Royce Knapp of the
University of Nebraska
representing the American
Association of Higher
Education and NU English
professor IiOiiis Crompton of
the AAUP.
Dr. Ralph Loomis. pro
fessor of English at the
University of Michigan, will
speak on "The Development
of Chapter Programs" a
8:15 Friday evening. Satur
day morning at 9 a.m., John
Dyer-Rennet professor of
mathematics at Carlton Col
lege, will discuss problems of
academic freedom, tenure
and ethics.
Lawrence Poston, associate
professor of English at NU
(now on leave), will speak on
faculty participation in col
lege government. The state
conference business meeting
will be conducted at 2 p.m.
AH faculty members are
welcome to attend the
meeting.
Those desiring reservations
for dinner at 7 p.m. on Fri
day or lunch on Saturday
should phone Les Reid at the
Nebraska Center (434-5981)
before 2 p.m. Friday.
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Union Monday
Football films of the Uni
versity of Nebraska vs. Kan
sas State game will be shown
Mondav at 11:30 a.m. in the
Nebraska Union lobby. Jerry
Tagge and Van Brownson
will be on hand to point out
interesting highlights of the
competition. The event Is
sponsored by the Union Hos
pitality Committee.
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Poll discusses ASUN effectiveness
bv Ron Whltten
Nebraskan Staff Writer
Almost three out of every
fotu- students at NU believe
that ASUN is necessary on
campus, lint only one of
every two think it has
benefited them iersonally
and only about one out of
three students consider
ASUN effective.
A poll taken this week of
117 University students
revealed that a majority of
NU. students expect more
from their elected campus
representatives. Questioned
on the benefits, the necessity,
ami the effectiveness of
ASUN, students more often
approved of the concept of
student government than of
its existing form.
Sixty-two of the 117 in
terviewed said that ASUN
has benefited them at some
time. 47 said it had not. and 8
were unsure.
The necessity for ASUN
was agreed uMn by ',)
students, while 23 thought it
unnecessary and 5 had no
opinion.
Forty-two persons respond
ed that they k'lieved ASUN is
effective. Sixty-seven thought
it inetlective and 8 could not
decide.
The pattern altered when
Hie opinions weiv separated
according to sex. Of the 07
unties polled. M thought
ASUN was beneficial, 3-1 did
not and 3 had no answer.
In contrast. 32 of the 50
females interviewed said
ASUN had benefited them.
'Thirteen girls could not.
recognize any benefits and 5
ii.'id no iminioii.
P.oth males and females
ugreed overwhelmingly that
ASUN is needed. Forty-eight
males said it was needed:
.sixteen said it was not. and
three did not know. Forty-one
females said It was needed;
seven said it was not. and 2
did not know.
Females were more evenly
divided on the third question
than males.
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Twenty-two women thought
ASUN is effective. 23 thought
it was not, and 5 could not
decide. While 20 men
responded affirmatively, 44
said ASUN was not effective
and 3 did not respond.
The poll also examined the
views in relation to each
student's class status. The
poll revealed that, on the
question of ASUN benefits, a
majority of those in their
first and last year of college
felt that it has helped them,
but most sophomores and
juniors felt the opposite.
Sixty per cent of the
freshmen interviewed said it
has helped, 25 per cent said it
had not, and, not surprising
ly, 15 per cent of the
freshmen were unsure. Of
the seniors, 61 per cent in
dicated that ASUN is
beneficial, 38 per cent in
dicated it is not, and only 1
per cent had no opinion.
Forty-four per cent of the
sophomores, and 46 per cent
of the juniors replied that
ASUN has been helpful, 50
per cent and 4!) per cent
respectively replied ASUN
has not, and 6 per cent of the
sophomores and 5 per cent of
the juniors were undecided.
All but the junior-class had
at least three-fourths of the
response agreeing on the
necessity for ASUN. The
junior class had 58 per cent
replying affirmatively, while
the other classes had only
about 15 per cent opposed to
ASUN. 42 per cent of the
juniors thought it was
uueeessary.
A majority of every class
responded that ASUN is not
effective. Again, the
freshman and the senior
classes demonstrated
similarities.
Fifty per cent of tiie
freshmen thought ASUN in
effective, with only 37 per
cent approving of its actions
and 13 per cent undecided.
The seniors interviewed had
54 per cent not believing
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Fiflv-five per cent of the
sophomores and 73 per cent
of the juniors thought that
ASUN action has been insuf
ficient. The sophomores had
44 per cent feeling that it
was sufficient. The juniors
had but 26 per cent agreeing.
Each class had 1 per cent not
responding either way.
The poll also made a
distinction between Greeks
and Independents. It showed
that perhaps ASUN has been
of more beneficial to Greeks
than independents. The poll
showed tHiat a much larger
percentage of Independents
believe that ASUN is not ef
fective than Greeks.
Roth . Greeks and in
dependents had overwhelm
ingly favorable response to
the ' necessity of such an
association.
The Greek response to the
first question showed 65 per
cent saying ASUN nas aiueu
i hem. 24 per cent saying it
has not. and 11 per cent
undecided. Independents had
46 per cent who believed
ASUN has been beneficial, 48
per cent believed the op
posite, and 6 per cent un
decided. The necessity for ASUN
brought an affirmative reply
from 87 icr cent of the
Greeks and 69 per cent of the
Independents, with 11 per
cent of the Greeks and 25 per
cent of the Independents
ivplving in opposition. The
two groups had no reply from
2 cr cent and 6 per cent of
their respective samples.
Sixty four per cent of tlw
lndeendents felt ASUN has
not been effective, while only
43 per cent of the Greeks felt
the same.
Thirty per cent of the In
dependents believed it has
been effective, along with 46
per cent of the Greeks. The
independent sample has 6 per .
cent undecided. Klevcn per
cent of the Greeks did not j
answer. ,
Proportionately, the poll
showed that fewer students
who commute think they
have benefited by ASUN ;
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by John Dvorak
Nebraskan Staff Writer
Do students give a damn
about ASUN?
Probably not, according to
some people involved with
student government. Other
people, however, are more
optimistic. They would
rather cite ways to make
ASUN more relevant.
"I think students often
benefit, without knowing it,
by what ASUN does," com
mented Diane The is en,
ASUN First Vice Presi
dent. Students are more issue
oriented, she added. "They
care about coed visitation
and housing policy. If ASUN
doesn't make headway in
those areas, then students
take after the ASUN struc
ture." For Instance, she con
tinued, students will reap
benefits from grading review
committees which were set
up in all colleges this
semester. Students will be
informed of the new pro
ceedures by letter second
semester, but it won't say
"ASUN did this" on the let
ter, Miss Theisen said.
Other people are far more
pessimistic.
"ASUN doesn't mean a
heck of a lot to the average
student," said Nancy Ryan, a
student senator.
"I have yet to see
something done by student
government that had a
lasting effect." said Dan
pillar, a fifth year student at
the University. "I remember
one year that the Student Bill
of Rights was a big issue.
Now no one remembers it."
"On the campus at large,
there is very little knowledge
of and interest in ASUN,
when compared to on-cam
pus residents.
Of the 27 interviewed who
live off-campus, only 10 in
dicated that ASUN has been
of benefit. Seventeen persons
indicated it has not.
Fifty-two of 90 on-campus
residents said ASUN has
been of benefit, 30 persons
said it had not, and 8 persons
were not sure.
Twenty off-campus and 69
on-campus residents said
ASUN is necessary, while 6
commuters and 17 campus
residents said it is not, and a
lone off-campus and 4 on
campus residents had no
opinion.
Six commuters answered
the question on effectiveness
affirmatively, and 36 on
campus residents did the
same. The former had 19
negative replies and 2
abstentions, and the latter
had 48 negatives and 6
abstentions.
One girl from Sandoz Hall
said she believed ASUN must
he effective because its ac
tivities are continually
reported in the Dally
Nebraskan. A male Lincoln
commuter, however, thought
that ASUN has obtained
"much more publicity than it
deserved."
A sophomore s o r o r 1 1 y i
member suggested l h a 1 1
ASUN should "do something :
big" to establish itself on ,
campus.
One Millard freshmun j
thought thought that ASUN
could become more effective i
if It had tlie power to enforce ;
regulations the s t u d e n t ;
Senate sets forth, while a
Senior living In Lincoln
lamented that it will never be ,
effective until ASUN ,
members "reach a higher j
level of maturity." !
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President Bill Chaloupka
said.
"ASUN, the last few years,
may have been an in
troverted organization,
Chaloupka continued. This
year's administration is
trying to reverse the trend,
but it's a slow process."
You can't be in student
government without being
frustrated " Chaloupka said.
"It can be extremely
frustrating if you reach for
unrealistic goals."
Student record store
"We're trying to be of
service to the students," be
said. "The student record
store, for instance, can be a
real service."
Services could be a real
solution, Miss Ryan agreed.
"Student services, like a
bookstore, record store,
gasoline and zerox service,
could get right at where the
students need help in their
billfolds."
At the University of
California at Berkely, stu
dent government provides a
myriad of services to
students everything from
food to automobile repair.
Besides such services,
which offer a real possibility
for making ASUN more
relevant, students must still
have a strong voice in
decision making, according
to Miss Ryan.
CSL provides more voice
The Council on Student
life, according to Chaloupka,
will provide students with
more of a voice in University
government. The Council has
a majority of students,
largely as a result of ASUN
action, he added.
The CSL can help solve
problems and hopefully pro
vide a way to reach more
students, Chaloupka said.
"I see a rising concern
among students about being
able to Influence the decision
making process," he said
"Students realize that when
decisions are made behind
closed doors, the decisions
are not often In the best in
terests of students."
The administration is hap
py to have a student senate,
according to Craig Dreeszen,
an NU student with vast ex
perience in ASUN. A former
senator. Dreeszen resigned
last February after a little
more than a semester as
ASUN President.
If there wasn't a senate,
the administration would
probably create one.
Dreeszen theorized. That
way. the administration can
say students are participating
in the decision making pro
cess. ASUN creates big fuss
"In some instances last
year, the administration took
ASUN recommendations and
Instituted them in good
faith." Dreeszen said. "But
ASUN got more done by
making a big fuss, creating
some noise and intimidating
people."
The Dean of Student Af
fairs, Dr. G. Robert Ross,
emphasized that the ad
ministration does indeed pay
attention to ASUN action.
"Sure we do," Ross said.
"There Is Uie possibility that
we give them more attention
than anyone else.
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Ross said that the ad
ministration has a commit
ment to involve students in
the decision making process.
Student government is often
the vehicle for that involve
ment. "It would not be ap
propriate for me to commen.
on the actual ASUN struc
ture," Ross said.
It is Important, he added,
to be sure that student
representatives are in tune
with the interests of their
constituents.
Communication Talks
"Everybody talks about
communication it's a time
worn phrase, but it is im
portant," Miss Theisen said.
The question Is how much
communication can occur in,
a school of this size, she said.
It's tough to communicate
with 19,500 students, about
half of whom don't even live
on campus, Miss Theisen
continued.
"We try to make ourselves
accessible," she said. "But
students rarely come in here
to talk to us. We do try to
keep people informed
through the 'Daily Nebras
kan,' and by getting informa
tion out to living units."
Miss Theisen said there is
a rampant tendency to
criticize ASUN. But the
question should be "What
should be done?"
ASUN does mep.n Some
thing, but it could mean much
more, according to Sen. Alan
Gless. More people must be
involved In ASUN.
Reapportionment
amendments
Gless is currently con
sidering introducing
amendments to the student
association's constitution to
alter reapportionment.
One of Gless's suggestions
is a bicameral student
government a house and
senate. Such a suggestion
would probably be unique
among college governments.
"It would involve more
people, because there would
be more seats open, more
people would be running,
there would be more news
about ASUN," he said.
Such a system would also
improve the quality of stu
dent legislation, since more
student representatives
would be considering it, he
added.
Anotlier ASUN Senator,
Chuck Faulkner is not so
sure. "There may be no way
to get the so-called silent
majority involved," he said.
"There Is a significant
number of people who will
remain silent, no matter
what," Faulkner said. "I call
them the ignorant masses."
That's not necessarily
faulting the leadership, he
continued. "That's the way It
is,"
Except in rare clrcum
stances, a riot would be
the only thing that would stir
the silent majority to action,
said Faulkner.
At present, ASUN Senate is
considering some ideas to
improve the situation. A
resolution sponsored by Sen.
Randy Prler would force
senators to attend specified
gatherings of students in
order to better communlca
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