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by Carol Anderson
Nebraskan Staff Writer
Members of the Council on Student
Life interpret their powers broadly
even though the council's accual
powers and its relationship to the
Board of Regents have not been
defined.
In a July 28 statement approving
the council, the Regents said, "The
Council on Student Life shall have
general policymaking powers over
students' social and out-of-classroom
activities, subject to approval by the
Board of Regents."
Some of the specific Issues the
students said the council will face in
its first year are student fees, defer
red rush, problems of minority
students, coed visitation, residence
hall planning and the Publications
Board.
As president of ASUN, Bill
Chaloupka, a senior in engineering,
is automatically a council member.
Rather than working on specific
issues, he said, the council will at
first be involved with concepts such
as the direction of student decision
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by John Dvorak
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After an hour of sometimes heated
debate, numerous references to
Robert's Rules of Order and solving
the case of th improper vote, Inter
Dormitory Association (IDA) Thurs
day evening approved the coeduca
tional lounge proposal 11-7 with two
abstentions.
After President Theresa Sledge
distributed a statement which she said
explained the coed lounge proposal,
Al Bestmann, Cather president, mov
ed approval of the proposal.
Norm Thorson, president of Harper
Hall, objected to considering the
question. He said the motion was
made so as not to waste time discuss
ing a worthless prODOsal. After much
searching through Robert's Rules of
Order, Thorson's objection was voted
down 154 and debate ensued.
Host changes Corps
volunteer's thinking
The Peace Corps helps change the
foreign host country, but it also
changes the Corps volunteer, ac
cording to Ersin A. Erel, Peace Corps
recruiter.
"I think Peace Corps volunteers
come back with more of a feeling
for people than they had when they
left." Erel said Thursday. "It is a
two way street."
Erel. a native of Turkey, is visiting
the University for a week to meet
with students who want to know more
about the Peace Corps.
"The volunteers also bring back
with them part of the culture of the
country In which they serve! and
pass it on to their American friends,"
he said.
International goodwill
The Peace Corps is designed to
provide a way for people to help other
people, Erel said. "International
goodwill produced by the Peace Corps
help to counteract the ''ugly
American" Image. In addition, it pro
vides a cultural exchange that
broadens both people's understanding
of each other."
"One thing Americans have to learn
Is that money Can't buy friendship,"
Erel said. "Turkey has backed up
the United States all along and then
Lyndon Johnson turned around and
tried to tell us how to run our country.
We are proud people and we resented
that."
Erel said the military causes hard
feelings among foreigners because it
rejects the host country's culture.
"They spend all their time on a
base, in a little America away from
home, and even though they don't
mean to, it hurts us anyway because
they are not interested in us," he
said.
Total submersion
The Peace Corps triel to get its
members involved in the country
through language and cultural stuJies
given volunteers before they leave.
Ed Icenogle, a senior council
member in journalism, said the coun
cil is charged to re-evaluate "all the
standard activities of the University."
He gave the Office of Student Affairs
and the Publications Board as exa
mples and added, "AWS needs re
evaluating right out of existence."
The council's activities may extend
into the classroom, Icenogle con
tinued. "The University has finally
reached the point where we realize
education is not only in the classroom.
The living and social environment is
just as important as the classroom
environment."
The Greek system also needs coun
cil attention, according to Icenogle.
Of deferred rush he said, "It needs
to be re-considered on what is best
for the students, not how the alumni
feel."
Power base
The council should concentrate on
building its influence and power base
instead of "doing big things right
away," said council member Rich
Page, senior in Teachers College.
"The council must be aware that
it's building a relationship this year
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"Why are we always worrying and
cowtowing to the Regents," Thorson
began. "Why should we bother with
this experiment? Why and in the hell
experiment if we know its right?"
Thorson and IDA vice president
Barry Pilger led the fight against ap
proving the proposal.
"We're not after straight coed
visitation or coed lounges as a goal,"
Thorson continued. "We want student
decision-making power."
Dormitory residents are the most
oppressed group on campus because
of the many regulations they must
obey, he said.
IDA should not fool around with
appeasements and compromises,
Thorson added. After this there will
be more experiments and more ex
periments, he said.
Although Thorson and Pilger said
straight coed visitation was not a
Intensive language studies last for six
weeks. A "total submersion" in the
language is demanded of the volunteer
in order to get him to learn fast and
efficiently.
Another seven weeks of the training
is half language and half culture
studies.
"When someone goes to another
country in the Peace Corps, he must
not feel superior to the people there,"
Erel explained. "Perhaps he knows
more about certain things, but the
volunteer can learn a lot from the
people he helps. He must be on the
level of the people."
Credit for corps work
A new program entitled "The
African Studies Program" is now
being offered by Atlanta University,
Atlanta. Georgia. The program is
designed to encourage black
Americans to join the Peace Corps.
With a B.A. degree, the volunteer
takes courses at Atlanta and is sent
to Africa to work in the Peace Corps
as a part of the requirements for
his M.A. degree. Full scholarships are
available.
Erel will be at a booth in the Union
on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday
of next week, or can be contacted
In the Student Affairs Office.
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speculate on council's
with the Regents," Page said. This
is a crucial year, and real power and
lasting influence depend on how this
relationship is built, he explained.
Vera Slaughter, council member
and sophomore in political science,
hopes the council can be used to settle
the coed visitation issue and to pro
mote the black students' cause by
"getting some things right that
aren't."
As an example of what the
University could do, he cited the
University of Colorado's student body
decision to raise tuition $5 per person
for minority student scholarships.
To be effective, the council must
find out what its powers are,
Slaughter said, although "the Regents
will probably determine how powerful
the council is."
Another council member, John
Lonnquist is a freshman law student
who has worked the last four years
in New York City. He received his
undergraduate degree from Nebraska.
He sees the council's role as a prod
der. "I want to see the University com
munity catch up to where society is,"
Randy Prier
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particular goal, they outlined a pro
posed course of action if IDA defeated
the lounge motion.
"We could come up with a proi osal
for coed visitation with very I 'oad
guidelines," Thorson said. "We touM
have IDA approve it and send it to
the Council on Student Life, which
is just forming."
Assuming the council approved the
idea, and Thorson and Pilger are
confident it would, the coed visitation
plan would be immediately im
plemented by IDA.
"Sure the Board of Regents has the
right to review Council on Student
Life action," Thorson admitted. "But
we will have already instigated our
policy and we would ignore the
Regents, even if they vetoed the idea.
What can the Regents do to 6.400
students who are standing up for their
rights?"
Mike Eyester, a student assistant
in Schramm Hall, which is not a
member of IDA, argued in favor of
the coed lounge idea.
"I'm not saying we should be happy
with this," he commented. "But while
we're preparing a coed visitation plan,
we've got this. This is all ready to
put into operation now."
Eyster and others argued that IDA
must take what is prepared and pro
posed now, and then broaden the base
later.
John Marker, a representative from
Cather Hall, also strongly favored the
coed lounge proposal.
"Through the open lounges we will
be able to show responsibility and
that we can handle more and more
responsibility," he said.
Marker denied approval of coed
lounges would set back full coed
visitation. That issue will still be
pushed, even as the coed lounges are
operating, he said.
After more than an hour of
debating, the question was called.
Approval would have meant im
mediate voting on the lounge proposal,
but the call was defeated 10-7.
After more than 15 minutes of addi
tional debate, and the statement of
one IDA rep that "we're arguing in
circles," the question was again call
ed. This time, the call was approved
14-7, but Thorson and Pilger im
mediately charged there were only
20 qualified IDA voters present,
although 21 votes were cast.
After considerable research and
heated discussion, it was discovered
that Jayne Bierman, a resident of
Burr East, had cast a vote.
Although she said she had
permission to vote for Burr Hall, she
was not a member of IDA council
and had no proxy.
Her vote was deemed Illegal and
the vote to close debate was again
called. It was approved 15-5 and the
stage was set to vote on the actual
coed lounge proposal.
Following the 11-7 vote, Represen
tative Bill Bradbury distributed a
statement charging that IDA has pro
ven Itself ineffectual in representing
the member residence halls in their
best interests and in passing mean
ingful legislation of importance.
"IDA should be ... a mouthpiece
for residence hall students cud not
he said. "Sometimes the stereotype
of the stodgy, comfortable ad
ministrator is true, so students must
do some prodding.
"They get comfortable in the ways
they think and the ways they're used
to doing things. But when times
change, things must change, and ad
ministrators won't usually opt for
change."
Lonnquist said the council has the
potential to benefit students and is
"a way of averting later hard feelings
between students and ad
ministrators." According to Randy Prier, council
member and a junior in the College
of Law, "The council must begin with
a feeling-out process, because I don't
think any of us realize all the
responsibilities."
Prier said the council encompasses
all the responsibilities of the Faculty
Senate so "we must decide what
powers we want to exercise."
On private coed visitation, he said,
"The Regents have said no twice, so
it's not worth !f to take it to them
right away. Tr oed visitation people
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just a sounding board for the admin
istration," the statement said.
The statement, signed by Brad
bury, Thorson, Pilger, L a V o n n e
Lausten, Smith Hall president, and
representatives Larry Long and Linda
Hamilton, stated that IDA must effect
a major revision of its constitution,
specifically stating that the purpose
of IDA is to work for the guaranteed
Hyde Park dominated
by talk of moratorium
Discussion of the V 1 e t n a m
moratorium dominated the Thursday
Hyde park session.
Alan Siporin of the V 1 e t n a m
Moratorium steering committee com
mented on the moratorium and then
asked for questions from the au
dience. He pointed out that some 40.000
American troops have died in Viet
nam. The American effort began with
military advisors and has been
escalated from there, he said.
"The hawks keep winning the
arguments over Vietnam," Siporin
said. "However, those who want out
of the war have managed to win a
victory through protest."
He said that the protests have forc
ed Lyndon Johnson out of office and
brought the United States to the peace
table.
"However, the hawks are wlnnin:
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Alan Siporin . . . "courage to
stand up for your convictions."
must formulate a more persuasive
proposal. I'm opposed to instantly
drawing lines of division between
us."
Prier said he assumes that some
regular means of communication with
the Regents will be instituted, but he
isn't sure of the method.
Regents
Although the Regents have reserved
the right to review council decisions,
Page doesn't expect them to con
stantly intervene.
"I would hope that the Regents
would put enough faith in the council
that they wouldn't review each
decision. The council is a decision
making body not just a recommending
body," he said.
Council member Lynn Webster, a
sophomore with a pre-veterinary ma
jor, said he has communicated with"
the Regents and "they seem op
timistic about working with us."
All the students said a close rela
tionship with the Regents is vital to
effective council action.
"Someone on the Board of Regents
should meet periodically with the
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rights of the student.
"What we mean is that if IDA can
not make the necessary changes by
the end of the semester. Harper and
Smith Halls will not belong to IDA
second semester," Bradbury said. He
further pointed out that those two
dorms had voted to pay only the first
semester's dues instead of the usual
full year's dues.
again," he continued. "Nixon has been
in office for eight months and has
only made token moves to end the
war. It is time to show the President
that there are large numbers of people
against the war."
Siporin said that Nebraska has not
had high participation in past
demonstrations. However, good
participation in Nebraska is important
for this demonstration, h e con
tinued. He explained that the President and
the Republican Party count o n
Nebraska being solidly behind them.
For this reason, he added, protest
against the war policy in Nebraska
will cause the President and his party
to worry.
He said that a number of events
will be going on all day and that
students will have to cut classes to
attend them. He urged all students
to attend.
There will be a program of music
and speakers In front of Love Library
Wednesday afternoon, Siporin con
tinued. The speakers will be presen
ting solid reasons why we should not
be in Vietnam, he said.
It will be most important to have
a large number of people on the
march to the capitol at 3:30 and to
wear black arm bands on Monday
and Tuesday, he said.
"If you don't participate in the ac
tivities and the march, then you are
partly responsible for each new death
in Vietnam," he continued.
The purpose of the demonstration
is to put pressure on the government
to speed up the withdrawal of
Vmerican troops from Vietnam,
Siporin added.
He said that petitions against the
war are being circulated and are
available in the moratorium booth in
the union. He also announced that
there will be Hyde Parks on Vietnam
Monday and Tuesday nights in the
four major dorm complexes.
"Do you think that the 40,0(10 dead
G.I.'s wanted to die for nothing." was
the question of Ray Mack. "I think
that you want to stop the war because
you're chicken."
Siporin answered that someone who
thinks is not necessarily afraid.
"Sometimes it takes a hell of a lot
of courage to stand up for your con
victions," he said.
Marv Helman. a Vietnam vetcrpn,
commented that he too was against
the war as it is now.
power
council," according to council
member Lee Harris, freshman in
business.
"The University is going through
growing-up pains and must realize
students can handle more
responsibility," Harris continued.
"Students want more responsibility
and more trust from the Regents."
The Regents committed themselves
to listening to the council when they
approved it, Icenogle said.
"They should only get involved
when they think we are taking the
wrong direction," he explained.
"When they feel this way, they should
explain their reasons rather than
meeting in their old clandestine
ways."
Chaloupka views A S U N ' s rela
tionship to the council as "a fact-finding,
instigating force" that suggests
problems and solutions to the council
and does research for it.
The only formal relationship the
council has with ASUN, Page said,
is that its members were selected by
ASUN and one of the student
members is the ASUN president.
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motion
Further debate ensued concerning
constitutional changes and the ap
pointment of a committee to study
the situation, but nothing was decid
ed. Following the meeting. Miss Sledge
said, "I hope that this (the meeting)
will wake up council and make them
aware of the potential of IDA."
"We are accomplishing nothing with
our present policy in Vietnam," he
said. "There are two alternatives left
to us."
He explained that the U.S. could
either fight the war all out to a speedy
conclusion or simply pull out. Ac
tually, the second alternative is the
only one left open to us now, he said.
"However," he continued, "if we
get ourselves into another war in the
future we should fight to win. We
have lost too many men in this war
because we have let it drag."
Biafran foreign student John Anaza
said that students should be concerned
with more than just Vietnam.
Anaza said that students should use
the moratorium time to give thought
to what else may happen in the world.
It is hard to get people to look further
than their own interests, he com
mented. "We should also stress that the
moratorium is a time to look at other
problems in the world and see how
we as students and future leaders may
solve them," Anaza said.
"What is needed in the future will
be a world leadership that follows
moral rather than economic convic
tions." he continued.
"The emphasis in the United States
should be to provide moral leadership
for the rest of the world, not military
might," Anaza said. "If the U.S. could
do this, it would be tlve most loved
country in the world."
"The United States has the chance
to change the course of history by
following a moral course." he add
ed. Ray Mack . . . "becau
you're chicken."
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