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About Valentine Democrat. (Valentine, Neb.) 1900-1930 | View Entire Issue (Dec. 7, 1911)
W. L DOUGLAS' Ti. _ . . i- Manufacturer Thinks Government Should Obtain Publicity by a License System. .Large business organizations have come to slay. We cannot go back to old conditions. We must meet world competition. Large concerns can produce - duce goods at lower cost than small ones. Germany favors large corpora- lions. The method of the present na tional administration is to dissolve the great organizations and make them smaller , which is a backward step. There should be no limit to a corporation doing a large and legiti mate business , such as would be pos sible under the licensing plan which I favor , writes W. L. Douglas , former governor of Massachusetts , in the Boston Herald. Prejudices against corporations merely because they are big , perhaps , * nust be done away with. They give labor better returns. They cheapen product and thus benefit the consum er. They give opportunities to small investors who get returns otherwise -unattainable. They employ able young men who have no capital at all , but who receive handsome sal aries for their ability and service. In place of the Sherman law it Is any opinion there should be a depart ment at Washington to grant licenses to all manufacturers and corporations In this country who do an Interstate commerce business. The law should be made so clear , plain and definite that it could not be misunderstood. It should require all capital to be paid in full. Semi-yearly statements should be given to the { public and certified by a public ac countant There should be a board ODf examiners in each state to look aft er these corporations just as our na tional banks are watched by the na tional government. They should have ithe right to enter the offices and ex amine the records of all the direc torates of these companies. Naive Optimists. "Six months ago tnere was another outburst of optimism as naive as .3n ithough the world were still living in the sentimental era of glass exhibi id tions. Since then there has opened another era of political earthquakes ! and conflagrations , and the area of disturbance continues to extend. Be fore the Tripoli problem has been safely liquidated or the peace of the Balkans is assured , we have the out burst in China of an insurrection which may change the face of the far east and give an incalculable increase of force to all the impulses set mov ing by the triumph of Japan. All we can be certain of in the region of -world politics is that nothing is cer tain. Do we need further lessons ra convince us that the peace of civilization aa tion is founded upon the crust of a Tolcano ? " asks the London Observer. No Insomnia Here. Mrs. Eastside Now thet you've got > so rich I should think you'd be afraid o * burglars. Mrs. McSwimm Sure , I'm not afeared at all , at all. I've 15 alarm clocks set so that one will go off every ialf-hour during th' night Whin a burglar hears one o' them he niver thops to take anything wid him. Mrs. Eastside But don't they keep ; you awake ? Mrs. McSwimm No , Indade. It's not us would be waked up by a little thing like that Before John got the pipe contract I used to be a kitchen sn.n leddy , and John was a policeman in "Philadelphia. New York Weekly. A woman may not be able to reform the man she marries , but she is rea sonably sure to inform him. His heart was as great as the world , "but there was no room in it to hold the memory of a wrong. Emerson. WORKS WITHOUT FAITH Paith Came After the Works Had Laid the Foundation. A Bay State belle talks thus about -coffee : . "While a coffee drinker I was a suf- rferer from indigestion and intensely gainful nervous headaches , from child- lood. "Seven years ago my health gave tout entirely. I grew so weak that atw the exertion of walking , if only a few tfeet , made it necessary for me to lie down. My friends thought I was marked for consumption weak , thin : and pale. "I realized the danger I was in and idd tried , faithfully to get relief from medicines - dn -icines , till , at last , after having em ployed all kinds of drugs , the doctor -acknowledged that he did not believe tit was in his power to cure me. "While in this condition a friend induced - duced me to quit coffee and try Post- t3t m , and I did so without the least "hope that it would do me any good. 3tI did not like it at first , but when it was properly mad © I found it was a most delicious and refreshing beverage. 3tI am especially fond of it served at din ner ice-cold , with cream. aa "In a month's time I began to im prove , and in a few weeks my indiges tion ceased to trouble me , and sy Iheadache stopped entirely. I am so ; .perfectly well now that I do not look Jlike the same person , and I have so Igained in flesh that I am 15 pounds [ heavier than ever before. "This is what Postum has done-for > = me. I still use it and shall always do so. " Name given by Postum. Co. , Bat tle Creek , Mich. "There's a reason , " and it is explained - plained in the little book , "The Road to Wellville , " in pkgs. Ever read Hie above Icticr ? A new one appears from time to time. They lire fxeuulne , true , and full of human 'Interest. ALL OVER NEBRASKA. Quick Work With Criminal. Brown County. It required just one week's time for Ray Thornberg , a youth of 19 summers , to break into the penitentiary for one year. Young Thornberg arrived in Ainsworth sev eral weeks ago and has been stop ping on a ranch belonging to Clyde Williams , twelve miles southwest or Ainsworth. Taking advantage of the absence from home of the members of the family Sunday , November 19 , he took a horse , saddle , suit or clothes , and an overcoat , belonging to the men of the ranch and left. He was trailed to Thedford , seventy miles south and captured. Thornberg was brought to Ainsworth Friday eve ning and when arraingned in county court pleaded guilty. Next day he was arraigned in district court and plead ed guilty and' was sentenced to serve one year at hard labor in the peni tentiary. Nabbed By the Government. Douglas County. Alfred E. Weeks , a real estate dealer , was arrested by United States Marshal Warner , upon the complaint of United States At torney F. J. Howell , who charges Weeks with conspiracy to defraud the government of public lands. Weeks was indicted by the federal grand jury at Aberdeen , S. D. , and when ar rested he was taken before United States Commissioner H. S. Daniel , where ne was unable to give the ? ! , - 200 bonds imposed. Reward for Faithfulness. Douglas County. In appreciation of twenty-five years of faithful services and unceasing toil to make his busi ness a success , Rome Miller of Oma ha tendered a banquet to his private secretary , Miss A. B. Mills. She was presented , with a beautiful bunch of twenty-five American Beauty buds , in which a check for $1,000 was nest ling. Vote on Commission Form. Otoe County. J. D. Houston has secured 150 names to his petition to the city council of Nebraska City , asking for the submission of the commission form of government to the voters of the city. He has filed his petition with the city clerk and the mayor and council may take some action. Milling Company Not Held. Hamilton County. Upon complaint filed by Deputy State Food Inspector Kemble , the Aurora Milling company was given a preliminary hearing in the county court upon the charge or misbranding packages of flour and bran. The court held that evidence was insufficient to hold the company. Big Sorghum Factory. Jefferson County. This county has the distinction of having one of the largest sorghum factories in the United States. This factory is locat ed at the little town of Endicott and is owned and managed by Fairchild Brothers. It has been running for a number of years and the business of 1911 exceeds that of any other year. A Colt Show Jefferson County. O. R. Jones , sec retary of the Jefferson county farm ers' institute , is preparing the pre mium list for the colt show which is to be a part of the regular institute held in Fairbury December 9. A num- foer of prominent horsemen in Jeffer son county have offered liberal pre- farmers. Receivership Case in Court. Clay County In the action brought by the minority holders of the St. Joseph & Grand Island Railway com pany for the appointment of a re ceiver , and for an injunction , a peti tion of removal and bond was filed by the Union Pacific , removing the case to the United States court. Organized New Lodge. Cuming County. Under the direc tion of Grand Patron Benjamin Terry of Lincoln a lodge of the Order of the Eastern Star was organized at the Masonic lodge room in West Point Wednesday. The name of the new lodge is Rose Star , in honor of A. M. Rose , one of the oldest Masons in the city. Will Not Affect Lincoln. The forming of a new division in the railway mail service with head' quarters at Omaha will not affect Lincoln , except that the Lincoln of fice will be in the Fourteenth division instead of the Sixth , according to the report given out at the local office. Violation of Postal Laws. C Herald D. Johnson of University Place was arraigned before Judge ° Munger of the federal court on a ° charge of violating the postal laws of the United States. It was alleged that he had sent a dunning communication 0 on a postal card to a man who owed him. Dedication of High School. Otoe County. The dedication of the new high school building at Ne braska City , which has been under . construction all summer , will occur on December 15. Doctor Walked on a Wager. Hall County. On a wagner of $50 that he would walk the distance oi" forty-three miles in ten -hours Dr- James P. Dugan "hit the ties * foi Kearney , followed along the way in automobile by H. G. Roll and Harvey. Thompson. The pedestrian lost out. IS MS TOPIC Message to Congress Devoted to This One Matter. DECISIONS ARE DEFENDED Dissolution Plans of Standard Oil and Tobacco Explained Federal In corporation and Commission Recommended. Washington. President Taft's annual message , which was read In both houses of congress Tuesday , deals exclusively with the anti-trust statute. The message In part is as follows : To the Senate and House of Represent atives : This mesage Is the first of sev eral which I shall send to congress during the interval between the opening of its regular session and its adjournment for the Christmas holidays. The amount of Information to be communicated as to the operations of the government , the number of Important subjects calling for comment by the executive , and the trans mission to congress of exhaustive re ports by special commissions , make it im possible to include in one message of a reasonable length a discussion of the top ics that ought to be brought to the at tention of the national legislature at its first regular session. Decisions of Supreme Court. In May last the Supreme court handed flown decisions In the suits in equity brought by the United States to enjoin the . further maintenance of the Standard 01 ] trust and of the American Tobacco trust , and to secure their dissolution. The de are epoch-making and serve to ad the business world authoritatively of the scope and operation of the anti trust law of 1890. The deci ons do not depart ; In any substantial way from the previous decisions of the court In construing Inj and applying this important statute , bu they clarify those important decisions by further defining the already admitted exceptions to the literal construction of the act. By the decrees , they furnish a useful precedent as to the proper method of dealing with the capital and property of Illegal trusts. These decisions sug gest the need and wisdom of additional or supplemental legislation to make it easier for the entire business community to square with the rule of action and legality thus finally established and to preserve the benefit , freedom and spur of reasonable competition without loss of real efficiency or progress. It has been said that the court , by in troducing into the construction of the statute common law distinctions , has emasculated it. This Is obviously untrue. By its Judgment every contract and com bination in restraint of interstate trade made with the purpose , or necessary ef fect of controlling prices by stifling com petition , or of establishing in whole or In part a monopoly of such trade , is con demned by the statute. The most ex treme crltllcs cannot Instance a case that ought to be condemned under the statute which is not brought within Us terms as thus construed. The sugestlon is also made that the Su preme court by its decisions In the last two cases has committed to the court the undefined and unlimited discretion to de termine whether a case of restrainj of trade Is within the terms of the statute. This is wholly untrue. A reasonable re straint of trade at common law is well understood and is clearly defined. It does not rest in the discretion of the court. It must be limited to acompllsh the purpose of a lawful main contract to which , In order that it shall be enforceable at all , It must be incidental. If It exceeds the needs of that contract It Is void. Methods of Dissolution. In the Standard Oil case the Supreme and circuit courts found the combination to be a monopoly of the Interstate busi ness of refining , transporting , and mar keting petroleum and its products , effect ed and maintained through thirty-seven different corporations , the stock of which was held by a New Jersey company. It in effect commanded the dissolution of this combination , directed the transfer and pro-rata distribution by the New Jer sey company of the stock held by it in the thirty-seven corporations to and among its stockholders , and the corpora tions and Individual defendants were enJoined - Joined from conspiring or combining to restore such monopoly ; and all agree ments betwen the subsidiary corporations tending to produce or bring about further violations of the act were enjoined. In the Tobacco case , the court found that the individual defendants , twenty- nine in number , had been engaged in a successful effort to acquire complete do > minion over the manufacture , sale , and dy distribution of tobacco In this country and abroad , and that this had been done by combinations made with a purpose : and effect to stifle competition , control Jlt prices , and establish a monopoly , not only in the manufacture of tobacco , but its also of tin-foil and licorice , used in Its : manufacture and of its products of cigars l- lo gars , cigarettes and snuffs. The tobacco : suit presentend a far more complicated and difficult case than the Standard Oil il.e suit for a decree which would effectuate the will of the court and end the viola tion of the statute. There was here L.0 single holding company as In the case of the Standard Oil trust. The main com pany was the American Tobacco com pany , a manufacturing , selling and holdIng - Ing company. The plan adopted to de stroy the combination and restore compe tition Involved the redivlslon of the capi in a.i tal and plants of the whole trust between some of the companies constituting the trust and new companies organized for the purposes of the decree and made par ties to It , and numbering , new and old , fourteen. Purpose Not Confiscation. It Is not the purpose of the statute to : confiscate the property and capital of the offending trusts. Methods of punishment by : fine or Imprisonment of the Individual offenders | , by fine of the corporation , ilr by forfeiture of its goods in transportation - tion , are provided , but the proceeding iin equity Is a specific remedy to stop the operation ] of the trust by Injunction and prevent the future use of the plant and capital in violation of the statute. I venture to say that not in the history Did as He Was Told. A young Irishman from a remote : .part of Ireland recently secured a berth as barman at a hotel in Mann Chester. The first morning at ad o'clock young Murphy was instructed ( I to light the lamps outside. This he lee proceeded to do very businesslike , but half an hour later could not be > found. Inquiries were made , and v eventually Murphy was seen about i atQ 7:30 lighting a lamp near Middleton , E having lit all the lamps on the RochI aa. dale road for about four miles. Ideas. I of American law has a decree more ef fective for such a purpose been entered by a court than that against the Tobacco trust. It has been assumed that the present pro-rata and common ownership In all these companies by former stockholders of the trust would Insure a continuance of the same old single control of all the companies Into which the trust has by decree been disintegrated. This Is er roneous and is based upon the assumed Inefficacy - efficacy and Innocuousness of judicial In junctions. The companies are enjoined from co-operation or combination ; they have different managers , directors , pur chasing and sales agents. If all or any of the numerous stockholders , reaching into the thousands , attempt to secure concerted action of the companies with a view to the control of the market , their number is so large that such an attempt could not well be concealed and Its prime movers and all Its participants would b at once subject to contempt proceedings and imprisonment of a summary charac ter. The Immediate result of the present situation will necessarily be activity by all the companies under different man agers and then competition most follow , or there will be activity by one company an stagnation by another. Cry for Repeal of Law. But now that the anti-trust act Is seen to be effective for the accomplishment of the purpose of Ite enactment , we are met by a cry from many different quarters for its repeal. It Is said to tte "obstructive of business progress , to be an attempt to restore old-fashioned methods of de structive competition between small units , and to make impossible those useful com binations of capital and the reduction of the cost of production that are essential to continued prosperity and normal growth. In the recent decisions the Supreme court makes clear that there Is nothing In the statute which condemns comblnaI tions of capital or mere bigness of plant organized to secure economy in producIn tion and a reduction of its cost. It is only when the purpose or necessary effect of the organization and maintenance of the combination or the aggregation of immense - mense size are the stifling of competition , actual and potential , and the enhancing of prices and establishing a monopoly , that the statute Is violated. J j For Federal Incorporation. i In a special message to congress on January 7 , 1910 , I ventured to point out the disturbance to business that would probably attend the dissolution of these offending trusts. I said : ( "But such an Investigation and pos- 1 slble prosecution of corporations whose prosperity or destruction affects the comfort not only of stockholders but of millions of wage earners , employes , and associated tradesmen must necesqu sarily tend to disturb the confidence of the business community , to dry up the | now flowing sources of capital from its , places of hoarding , and produce a halt : In our present prosperity that will | cause suffering and strained circum ! stances among the innocent many for the fault of the g-ullty few. The quesCO tion which I wish In this message to bring clearly to the consideration and discussion of congress Is whether , in | I order to avoid such a possible business dauger , something cannot be done by which these business combinations may [ be offered a means , without great finan ' cial disturbance , of changing the char . acter , organization and extent of their business Into one within the lines of the law under federal control and su- pervlslon , securing compliance with tha anti-trust statute. j | "Generally , in the Industrial combl- nations called Trusts. ' the principal j business is the sale of goods in many states and in foreign markets ; In other words , the Interstate and foreign busl- ! ness far exceeds the business done 1m any one state. This fact will Justify the federal government In granting a federal charter to such a combination to make and sell In Interstate and for eign commerce the products of useful j manufacture under such limitations as i will secure a compliance with the antl- f trust law. It is possible so to frame a statute that while It offers protec- | i tion to a federal company against j i harmful , vexatious and unnecessary i invasion by the states. It shall subject It to reasonable taxation and control by the states with respect to its pure- ly local business. I "Corporations organized under this act should be prohibited from acqulrto j ing and holding stock In other corporaga ' tions ( except for special reasons , upon | approval by the proper federal authorj j Ity ) , thus avoiding the creation under I national auspices of the holding com- | i pany with subordinate corporations In different states , which has been such an J , effective agency in the creation of the great trusts and monopolies. "If the prohibition of the anti-trust ' act against combinations In restraint of trade is to be effectively enforced , It Is essential that the national govern ment shall provide for tne creation of national corporations to carry on a legitimate business throughout the United States. The conflicting laws of the different states of the Union with respect to foreign corporations makes it di cult , if not impossible , for one corporation to comply with their re quirements so as to carry on business in a number of different states. " Federal Commission Proposed. I do not set forth In detail the terms and sections of a statute which might supply the constructive legislation permit ; ting and aiding the formation of combina tions of capital Into federal corporations. They should be subject to rigid rules as to their organization and procedure , In cluding effective publicity , and to tha closest supervision as to the Issue of j stock and bonds by an executive bureau , j or commission in the department of \ commerce and labor , to which In times of doubt they might well submit their pro posed plans for future business. It must be distinctly understood that incorpora tion under a federal law could not ex empt the company thus formed and Its incorporators and managers from prose cution under the anti-trust law for sub sequent llegal conduct , but the publicity of its procedure and the opportunity for frequent consultation as to the legitimate purpose of its transactions would offer It as great security against successful prosecutions for violations of the law as would be practical or wise. I recommend that the federal charters thus to be granted shall be voluntary , at least until experience justifies mandatory provisions. The benefit to be derived from ] the operation of great businesses under the protection of such a charter would attract all who are anxious to keep within the lines of the law. Other large combinations that fail to take advantage of the federal Incorporation will not have a right to complain if their failure Is ascribed to unwillingness to submit their transactions to the careful scrutiny , competent supervision and publicity at tendant upon the enjoyment of such a charter. Fame of Li Hung Chang. There are far too many famous men nowadays , and it is not easy to re member exactly who is who. They were discussing the Chinese situation In : the bar and the man who had vis ited China began to give his views. "Do you remember Li Hung Chang ? > " he began. "I knew him well. " To which the sporting-looking gentleman in : the corner answered , "What ? Re member him ? I saw him last night Best music hall juggler I've seen for ta time. " London Chronicla. GOOD CAKE RECIPES ANY ORDINARY COOK CAN SUC CEED WITH THESE. Delicious and Toothsome Confections That Are Easily Made by Follow ing Simple Instructions Lat est Style in Cakes. Chocolate Sponge Cake. Cook to a syrup iys cupfuls of sugar and five tablespoonfuls of boiling water. Sep arate six eggs , beat whites ten min utes , then beat yolks very light , add and beat together five minutes. Add syrup a little at the time and beat all ten minutes. Add slowly two cup fuls of pastry flour , pinch of salt , teaspoonful - spoonful of vanilla , and two teaspoon ful : * of baking powder. Bake 45 min utes in moderate oven. Do not look in oven for 20 minutes. Icing Melt over teakettle two squares of bitter chocolate , add cupful of sugar and add boiling water , one tablespoonful at a time until dissolved , but do not add more than three tablespoonfuls. Spread on cake while icing is warm. Orange Cake. Cream half a. cup butter _ with one cup sugar , add yolks i ' of two eggs , half cup milk , and half I cup of orange juice , and a little of the I , . grated rind , two small teaspoons bak ing powder lifted with two scant cups ' Of flour , then the stiffly beaten whites Of the two eggs. Bake in layers and 1 spread with orange icing made as fol lows : Boil one cup sugar with one- quarter cup water until it threads , then , add gradually to stiffly beaten white of one egg and whip , slowly add ing * one-quarter cup orange juice , one teaspoonful of lemon juice and a little Of , the grated orange rind. Beat until thick and cream. Ice Cream Cake. One cup butter , two cups sugar , one cup milk , 3 * & cups flour , two teaspoonfuls baking powder , whites of eight eggs , one- quarter teaspoonful salt. Mix dry ingredients - gredients , cream , butter and sugar , add milk , then flour , and beat Add whipped whites and beat again. Flavor - vor with almond extract. Bake in three jelly tins in hot oven and when cold put together with boiled icing flavored with almond extract. Devil's Food Cake. Butter , one heaping teaspoon ; sugar , one cup ; beat . to a good cream , then add yolks of two eggs. Cut up one-fourth of chocolate , put in saucepan , add one- half cup of cold water , let come to boil , then pour over above. Next add 1 % cups of flour scant , with one teaspoon baking powder. Lastly add one-half teaspoon scant baking soda to half cup boiling water , then add to above contents. The secret in making - ing , , this cake is to have the batter thin. Take the whites of the two eggs for Boiled icing. Oyster Patties. Into frying pan put two tablespoons butter. When hot add one-quarter medium sized onion cut in very small pieces. j When well browned add the oysters , liquid of one pint of oysters and one cup of cream. After it boils Uj stir into the mixture two table- spoons flour dissolved in water enough to thicken it sufficiently. Season with salt and pepper. When well blended and cooked add one pint large oys- ters , cook until they curl , about two minutes. Line gem pans with rich 1f paste , whch serves the purpose of shells ; fill with the cream oysters. ; Sprinkle ] lightly with buttered bread crumbs , brown In a very hot oven.n i.I Serve at onoe on platter surrounded with parsley. Delicious Toast. Cut rather thick slices of stale light bread and lay them in the oven till 11a dried through ; then put them in a toaster and hold over the coals until a golden brown ; have ready some scalded cream or new milk made only as thick as cream with a , tablespoon of butter and flour rubbed together ; pop the hot toast into this a moment and then pile it in a heated covered dish ; make plenty of it , for it is likely to be eaten , but any that is left will be ( better thSn at first if a little cream js poured over it and it is set in the oven until heated through. Corset Bag. Take a strip of white or gray linen one yard long and seven and one-half inches wide , allowing for seams. Em broider any small flower you may choose and outline the word "corsets" , ,11e with color to match embroidery. Have lining to match also. Leave bag open two inches from top and buttonhole ' outside and lining together neatly. Make a casing to run ribbon through for drawstrings. It may be made ) hd hf lawn with colored lining or figured muslin with lining to match. Turbot a la Creme. Roll a nice fresh fish , pick out the bones and season wth salt and pep per ; mix one-quarter pound of flour with one quart of milk ; put in four small onions , small bunch of parsley ; and a sprig or two of thyme , salt , and idr. one-half teaspoon of white pepper. Put over the fire and stir until r.it forms a paste ; take off and add one- half pound of butter and yolks of ere eggs. Cream Horseradish Sauce. Put one-quarter cup of freshly lye grated horseradish in a bowl , add one- ear quarter level teaspoon of salt and four tablespoons of cream beaten light. it.es Use at once , as the sauce separates by standing. This is an excellent sauce to serve with roast beef and is especially good with broiled steak. Youra for uni formity. Yours for great est leavening power. Yours for never failing results. Yours for purity. Yours for economy. Yours for every thing that goes to make up a strictly high grade , ever- dependable baking powder. That is Calumet. Try it once and note the im provement in your bak ing. See how much more economical over the high- priced trust brands , how much better than the cheap and big-can kinds. Calumet is highest in quality moderate in cost. Received Highest Award- World's Pure Food Exposition. WISE PLAN. Tom Do you believe in keeping tha friendship of a dog ? Dick Sure. Especially if he 13 cross and happens to belong to tha girl you often call on. It Sounded Well. Horace Taylor , the artist , whose newspaper illustrations used to be _ admired , here , came from Nokomis , 111. , in the Egypt district In "Hod's" early days they organized a band In which he blew an inconsequential horn. "We had a hard time naming the band , " said Taylor. "However , as we were a thousand miles from the ocean and even a considerable distance from the great lakes , we called It the Marine Band of Nokomis. " Chicago Evening Post. Bush Leaguers. Professor You know that the low est type of human beings is found in Australia. What are those natives called , Mr. Fanning ? Student ( captain of the ball team ) Bush leaguers. Puck. A USEFUL XMAS GIFT for man , woman or child is a good fountain pen. Waterman's Ideal is the best pen made and the one that is most imitated , therefore insist on the genuine. Sold by all good dealers. Natural. Lady Visitor Doctor , the hurt in my little dog's paw looks so angry. 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