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"The average city church is a gossip shop. This
gossip shop ] is filled with hornets , who sting the min
ister a dczen times or so every day , 365 days a year. A
minister has a man's job-a job for a man with red
blood in his veins , and , properly considered , the biggest
job in the world. Yet a minister cannot help sometimes
but feel that he is being made a monkey of , . because
of the peculiar conditions he has to meet in his
church. "
That is pretty' frank language for a clergyman to
use for publication , isn't it ? Yet the clergyman who
used it had a great many more , equally direct things to
say in lifting the curtain of the ministerial life for the
interviewer. Rev. Frederick E. Hopkins , pastor of the
Pilgrim Congregational church , Chicago , is the divine
who was interviewed by a writer in the Record-Herald.
Dr. Hopkins is an ultra-modern preacher , who believes
in topical sermons , in practical church activities as
part of the life of the community and who is an advo-
cate of plain speaking.
Dr. Hopkins came to be interviewed as a result of
recent statements made in New York by Rev. Charles
A. Eaton and Rev. William Carter. Mr. : Eaton declared
that a church to-day is too "shriveled up" and that a
pastor has enormous difficulties to meet in seeking to
carry on his work. Mr. : Carter stated that there is no
co-operation and sympathy on the part of a metropoli
tan congregation for the pastor , who has to do his work
l alone. Dr. Hopkins agreed with both these men , and
, then he added a whole lot more on the subject , giving
the. most unreserved interview of the sort printed in
many moons.
"Of course , these New Yorkers are right , " said Dr.
Hopkins , "and they could go a great deal farther and
be within the bounds of truth , as applied to the average
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' of church he is filled
am going to talk. When a pastor first takes hold a
-with idealism. He is filled with a spiritual fire , with poetic ideas , with the
white , pure light of a great ambition. His heart goes out to all men in
fraternity and kindness. In short , he has ideals. Well , the first thing that
liappens to him is the discovery that his church is not by any means a unit.
Besides all the various personalities that make up the parish , the congrega-
tion divides itself into three main classes. He discovers that what may be
" \ called the first class-for it is a large class - are materialists. They look
on the whole thing as a business proposition. The minister is simply the
business manager of an enterprise. It is up to him to get results , to make
good in a business way. He must fill the church , he must get big collec-
tions , he must rent the pews , he must put the parish on a booming finan-
cial basis. This class want their minister to be a star pel-former. They
. want him to be a headliner. They take the position that their church is
"L" competing fcr business with the other churches and they want the minister
' to beat all competitors. The second class in the church wavers between the
" \ ideal and the opportunist. The members of this class want the minister to
make good in the business of the church competition , want him to have a
jammed edifice , but balk to some extent at the methods which are often
1051 10 RUN BIG CITIES
Census Bureau Makes Interesting
Report on Municipal
Expenses.
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.PER CAPITA IS INCREASING.
Maintenance of Local Departments : :
Leaps from $13.36. in 1902 to
,
$15.91 in 1907.
The Census Bureau's special annual
report for 1907 on the statistics of
. if t cities is in press. It will show that
the per capita running expenses of the
government in 148 of the largest cities
increased from $13.36 in 1902 to $15.91
in 1907. There has been a progressive
increase in nearly every department
of the government. The per capita in-
crease in , ihe fire department was from
$1.33 to $1.01 , in the health depart-
ment from $0.22 to $0.29 , in charities
and corrections from $0.86 to $1.06 and
in education from $3.85 to $4.70.
Of special interest in a comparison
of the general expenses of the cities
are payments for the maintenance of
the health department. In several
cities the State maintains a dispensary
or health bureau , but in most cities
nearly all the expense of the care of
.
the public health is borne by the city
alone. New York paid $1,691,560 for
the maintenance of its health depart-
ment , or more than six times as much
as any other city. The other cities ,
paying more than $200,000 to maintain I
. this department were Chicago ( $261-
614) ) , Philadelphia ( $253,709) and San
Francisco ( $240,198) .
The payments for schools , libraries
and art galleries of the cities consid-
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ered were 29.6 per cent of the total
running expenses of the government.
yv- Of the cities of over 300,000 popula-
I / - tion the percentage spent for education
was highest in Cleveland , Ohio , 33.1 ;
in cities of from 100,000 to 300,000
population the highest percentages
were in Scranton , Pa. , 51.54 , and Seat-
tle , Wash. , 46.2 ; in cities of from 50-
000 to 100,000 population , in Salt Lake
City , 48.2 , and Des Moines : : , Ia. , 46.3 ,
and in smaller cities , Topeka , Kan. ,
54.5 , and Lincoln Neb. , 52.5
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necessary to bring about the results. The third class is a small class , but
it is the class that helps the preacher over the roughest places of his life.
This class is made up of cultured , godly , broad-gauge people , who sympa-
thize with the minister's ideals and who can see something in church besides
the size of the collection. These three main classes make up the average
church , which consists of from 100 to 500 families , or from say , 300 to 1,200
people. These people are of all sorts and conditions , rich and .poor , edu-
cated and uneducated , mean and generous , narrow and broad. There are
all kinds of individual peculiarities in this crowd.
"One of the things that a minister has to encounter all the time ,
whether he is new or old in his church , is criticism of his personal appear-
ance and mannerisms. His coat , his hair , his face , his tie , his shoes , his
hat , as well as the clothes and appearance of his wife and every member
of his family , are common matters of parish talk and parish criticism. This
clothing question is coming up in one form or another frequently. Some
members of the congregation don't want the minister to dress too well. Ir
he does he is worldly. Others want him to dress well. If he doesn't he's
shiftless. Some parishioners object to his wearing tweeds , yellow shoes
and an ordinary derby. Others object to his wearing a garb of black , with
a choker. If a lawyer , a doctor , a journalist or any other professional or
business man had to put up with the criticism on his personal appearance
that is the lot of a minister he would declare it all the grossest and most
unqualified impertinence. All these things are trivialities in themselves ,
but they mount up in the course of every-day life to a great deal of . n
annoyance. If I meet you on the street and tell you I've been stung by a
hornet , you don't think : much of it. . But if you hear that I'm being stung
by a dozen hornets every day in the year , year after year , you would begin
to think that was a pretty stiff game for me to go against , wouldn't you ?
"The layman would suppose that a minister would get the backing and
support of his brethren of the cloth. But he doesn't. There are all kinds of
jealousies among clergymen. If a minister crowds his church and attracts
attention by his sermons he finds himself greeted in mighty chilly fashion
by his brethren at the next ministers' meeting. There is , of course , the
natural business competition between the churches and ministers to begin
with , and added to this is the fact that one of the number is getting so
much attention. There isn't the team play that would be expected among
ministers. If one minister calls attention to some urgent need of the com
munity , to some evil that should be eradicated , to some campaign that should
be undertaken , he need not expect much help from his brethren of the faith. I
Not a bit of it. In other words , a minister must pay the penalty of suc-
cess-jealousy-if he is a success. If he succeeds he gets knocked. If he's
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a failure he gets pitied.
"The minister's wife has a hard time in many ways. If she , under all
the circumstances of the parish and church , thinks it well to keep somewhat
apart from church work and merely attend to her own household alu5s ,
the fire oC criticism is poured in on that account. It is declared that 'our
minister is sincerely to be pitied. He has a wife , you know , who is not at
all in sympathy with him. She takes no interest in the church affairs at
all , and her mind , we fear , is set on things of the world. ' Then , on the
other hand , if the minister's wife does take an active interest in parochial
affairs , if she goes to sewing circles and takes a leading part in all the
church activities , the fire of criticism is poured in just the same. 'The min
ister's wife is most officious , ' it will be said. 'The poor minister has a hard
time of it , we fear. His wife seems to think it's her parish. She should
be more discreet and not push herself so much. This church got on very
well before she came here and it can get on very well now without her
poking in everywhere. ' And then there are the clothes of the ministers
wife and children , His wife's hat may be the cause of a parochial
tempest. "
Dr. Hopkins is well qualified as an expert to t.allon : the tribulations
of a minister's life. He has been in the pulpit for thirty years. He has
occupied his present pulpit for ten years and before that had churches in
New York State , in Connecticut and Iowa.
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- . plorer , forestalls them by ' discovering the
South Pole before they can get started , two
_ _ _ _ _ _ Englishmen will become his rivals and the
rivals of each other in the competition for
\ the honor of placing their names in his
tory alongside of Peary's. Captain Robert
F. Scott of the Royal Navy , is to make his start for the
South Pole next summer and Lieutenant Sir Ernest H.
Schackleton , who got almost there , has announced his
intention : of trying it again.
Charcot knows nothing of the discovery of the North
Pole. He started in 1908 , with the expectation of being
some two or three years , and has long been lost to the
sight of man in the Antarctic regions. When he went
his announcement was simply that he would try to get
as far south as possible. Scott , with the stimulus of
Peary's conquest , announced that his object was "to
reach the South Pole and to secure for the British Em-
pire the honor of that achievement. " Shackleton , on
his last expedition , bore with him a card written by
Queen Alexandra and reading , "May this Union Jack ,
which I entrust to your keeping , lead you safely to the
South Pole. "
It lead him within 111 miles of it , and he planted it
on the plateau where he was forced to abandon his
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journey.
The Antarctic continent is mountainous , and a "dash"
over ice-covered mountains presents difficulties not met
in the travel over ice-covered ocean. : The chief difficulty ,
however , is the terrific cold , the icy wind and the incon-
ceivable blizzards. In the North , while one never needs a
straw hat or a palm leaf fan , there are moderations of
temperature.
It is doubtful if 1 per cent of Antarctic lands is ever
ice free , so that ordinary forms of land life are abso-
lutely wanting. Not only are human inhabitants un
known south of Cape Horn , more than 2,300 miles from
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Dumped.
"As I understand it , they have lost
their money , but all of the daughters
are able to earn their own living save
one , who is most idle and incompetent.
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What will become of her ? "
"She'll have to get married. " - The
Housekeeper.
the Pole , but except sea forms , within the circle of ani-
mal life and vegetable life are practically absent save a
few low forms of hardy lichens and mosses. No plant
life gladdens the eye , and even the hum of insects is
unheard , the terrestrial fauna consisting of wingless
insects. Sea life is more abundant than in any other
ocean , the higher forms being whales , seals and birds-
skuas , penguins and petrels-but owing to distance and
danger their pursuit and capture are no longer remu-
nerative.
Captain Scott , who will take the center of the stage
in a few months , is 41 years old. He is a Fellow of the
Royal Geographical Society and is at present engaged
in the Admiralty. The first niember of the Scott expedi-
tion has already left England in connection with the
preliminary work of the expedition and expects to be
. absent three years. This is Cecil Mears , who has been
sent to Siberia to obtain dogs and ponies. Mr. Meares
goes direct to Vladivostok , thence northward to the
Amur , where he will make enquiries as to where suit-
able dogs are most plentiful. By means of sledges he
will then press further north from the Amur district to
Yakut , a great sable center in Yakutsk , where animals
will probably be procurable. Subsequently he may go to
Okhotsk and on to the Verkhoiansk mountains , a region
described as almost if not quite the coldest of the world.
Mr. Meares intends to get most of his dogs , particularly
the , team leaders , in Siberia.
This part of the work is occupy
expected to occupy three or
four months , but it must be completed before the roads
melt in order that he may get back to Vladivostok in
April. Mr. Meares will then start collecting ponies
around Harbin , after which ail his stock will be taken
to Vladivostok , shipped to Kobe and there transferred
to another steamer for New Zealand. Mr. Meares with
his dogs and ponies will join the
main body of the ex
pedition on board the Terra Nova in New Zealand in
December.
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When a big fat girl is silly she is
TERRIBLY silly.
Many people seem to enjoy life im
mensely by living on expectations.
"I want credit for one thing , " said
a man to-day. " 1 seldom consult an
almanac. "
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"I don't want you to marry him. "
"Why not , mother ? "
"You may be able to do much better
in the future. "
"Well , I can cross that bridge when
I come to it , can't I-Philadelphla
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HEROIC bronze statue of an American Indian , costing $250-
000 , is to be erected upon the site of Fort Lagayette , near the-
A entrance of New York harbor , if Congress passes the bill ap .
propriating $500,000 for the foundation and approaches. The-
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of the money needed for the statue or all of it , if necessary.
The memorial will serve at the same time the purposes of a lighthouse and
will correspond in dignity and impressiveness with Bartholdi's Liberty En .
lightening the World , which was erected a little further up the New York
bay some years ago.
The westerner who fought the redskin in pioneer days is not ap tto.
grow enthusiastic to any marked : degree over the melodramatic trippings
with which the modern writer is wont to clothe him , but with all his sav-
agry the Indian was ever friendly and helpful when treated honestly and
kindly. The Quakers found it possible' live peaceably with them. In
other parts of the country , too , the Indians were little disposed to resist
the invader except when infruiated by personal outrages , frauds , and the
dispossession of the lands whioh belonged to them. Various tribes of the
Order of Red Men throughout the country have passed resolutions favoring
the project and have expresed their desire to assist in every possible way.
It is planned that each of the 500,000 : ) members represented in the 4,000
tribes in the United States shall contribute 2 cents each to the general fund.
President Taft commends the movement. He likes : the idea of having the
statue at the southern point of Governor's Toland } , with a light on it so that
it may serve as a lighthouse as well as a tribute to the Indian. Vice-Presi-
dent Sherman also endorses the project and representatives in Congress. .
with Indian blood in their veins , such as Senator Owen of Oklahoma , Sena- .
tor Curtis of Kansas and Representative Carter of Oklahoma- have earnest-- .
ly supported the bill providing for the necessary appropriation. .
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high rising from a circular rotunda 1" 0/ feet in diameter inclosed with a .
colonnade. . The statue will represent an Indian warrior in full panoply , car-
rying a bow and arrow in his hand.
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. A recent international marriage which will appeal with more than usual-
interest to Americans is that of Miss Marie : Louise Logan , granddaughter of
famous "Black Jack" Logan , to Henri De Sincay : of Belgium. Miss : : Logan is
a New York girl and a popular member of its smart society. Handsome
well educated and cultured , and with a vivacity that is contagious , this
granddaughter of one of the great Americans of his time has had the en-
tree of the best homes in the metropolis and has been regarded as a rich
matrimonial prize. In many of her characteristics she resembles General
Logan , who served with distinction in the Mexican and Civil wars , who
. sat from Illinois in both branches of Congress and who was the running
I i mate of James G. Elaine in the Presidential . campaign of 1884. Her mother
is still living and is a well-known contributor to magazines and newspapers.
De Sincay came to America a year ago to learn l the zinc business. He-
found much time for society and was a guest of leading families at Newport.
I As late as last summer he declared he had not met any unmarried womaa
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: in society for . whom he cared. Then he met Miss Logan and was imit : : ) -
diately a captive. His father is at the head of extensive zinc industries if
Liege and his uncle is Prince Albert le Ligne.
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