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The Nebraska Independent
MAY 17, 1906
MAN OF CLAY, NOT IRON
Roosevelt Enters Into Compact With
Tillman and Bailey Only to
. Betray Them. ,
.(Continued from Page 1)
down and the controversy proceeded
on another amendment suggested by
Mr, Bacon, making the proposed court
review apply only to "orderg.and re
quirements not involving the" exercise
of discretion by the commissipn."
ine ueDate was legal and technical
and was participated "In by Senators
Bacon, Long, Bailey, Foraker and
others. - , .
The Bacon amendment fas voted
down 22 to 46. j .
Tillman Charges Betrayal.
During the debate Senator ifillman
made an attack " upon the president.
He referred to the Long amendment,
6aying that he did so with the purpose
of making an explanation. He said
that senators probably would be sur
prised to know that he had been in
conference with the president. He
then, contrary to his usual .practice,
read a statement of his negotiations
regarding the bill, as follows:
"Qn Saturday, March 31, I was In
formed by ex-Senator William E.
Chandler, that President Roosevelt
had sent to him a note asking him to
call at the White House that evening;
that he obeyed the call and had been
told by the president that he desired
through him to get into communica
tion with me as the senator in charge
of the railroad rate bill and with Sen
ator Bailey, representing the demo
crats of the senate, for the purpose
of ascertaining whether there could
be such ' united action t among the
friends In the senate of the Hepburn
bill as would make a sure majority in
its favor and against Injurious amend
ments. Says He Was Lured. 1
Mr. Chandler said the president
named various, republican senators
who he thought were true friends of
the bill, but said .that it might re
quire all the democrats to defeat ob
noxious amendments. Mr. Chandler
said the president had stated that he
had come to a complete disagreement
with the senatorial lawyers-who were
trying to injure or defeat the bill by
ingenious constitutional amendments,
naming Senator Knox in addition to
Senators Spooner and Foraker; that
the president stated carefully and de
liberately the basis upon which he
thought there should be co-operation,
viz: an amendment expressly grant
ing a court review, but limiting it to
two points, first, an inquiry whether
the commission had acted beyond Its
authority ultra vires, and, second,
whether it had violated the constitu
tional rights of the carrier. Mr. Chan
dler stated that the president repeated
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that he had reached a final decision
that the right of review should be thus
limited; that; thus far he would go,
and no farther; that his decision would
oe unalterable.
Tells of President's Switch.
Proceeding, he said that Mr. Chan
dler had said that the president had
assured him that he would be in favor
of a restriction against the issuance
of ex parte injunctions to meet the
wishes of Senators Tillman and Ba
Hey. . '. . ..; .
After informing Mr. Bailey of the
unanaier interview Mr. Tillman said
that on the next day he had told Mr.
Chandler that in his and Mr. Bailey's
opinion there would . be jio:difficulty.
in coming to an understanding on the
basis proposed by the president. -, "On
the evening of Monday ;Mr, Chandler
told me he had so assured the nresi
dent, and asked him 'not ,to be dis':
turbed by the newspaper items grow
ing put or tne ... talk about Senator
Long's amendment published in the
newspapers as ' one. agreed . upon at
the White House conference on Satt
urday." - ;.""'-". .'''.--'".,-".
He then said that he and Mr. Chan
dler had continued their conferences
aim uu jxyi u y : tup cX-DcuatGr CSu
gone to the White House to take a
favorable report to the president. On
April 8 Mr. Chandler , tofd - him that
he had conferred ... with Senator Alli
son, asking him v to intervene in the
conference then in progress, and that
the Iowa senator bad agreed to do so.
Chandler as Go-Between. . ;
Later Mr. Allison .had seen the
president. On April 13 Chandler had
advised that he (Mr. Tillman) and Mr.
Bailey see the attorney general. Con
sequently they had met that official on
the 15th, finding themselves In per-,
feet accord with him except as to a
small difference in. the .matter of injunction.-
"There "was absolute HocrH
from the first on the proposition that
the courts review, should be limited Jto
the inquiry whetherthecommissioa
had exceeded its.- authority or violated
the carriers' constitutional rights."
Mr. Moody, had then agreed to supply
the senators with a memorandum of
his views and had done so, "and we
have the original of it," said Mr.
Tillman. ,
The next day, Mr. Tillman said, he
had again seen Mr. Moody and had as
sured him that twenty-six democratic
votes could be secured for the com
promise proposed and had told him
that it would be necessary to get
twenty republican votes. "It was un
derstood that we should work together
to get the votes necessary to pass the
compromise. The attorney general
had expressed doubt of getting enough
republican votes to assure the accept
ance of the Bailey non-suspension pro
viso, but had said that he felt sure
of the Overman amendment. Mr.
Moody had, he said, assured him that
it was the fixed purpose to insist upon
the Long amendment, and he (Mr.
Tillman) had no suspicion of a change
of front until May 4, when the. presi
dent had his j interview with the as
sembled newspaper men. -
The reading of the statement evok
ed many smiles and some laughter
from senators. There was especial
merriment over a statement of , assur
ance by the South Carolina senator
that the president need not be alarmed
over, newspaper reports. He had, he
said, ;,told the attorney, general 'that
there was no danger of the result as
to the bill if the president should ad
here to his plans.
He then had the clerk read the
Moody memorandum covering the
points agreed upon as the basis of
amendments.
Mr. Tillman's time expired before
he had completed, his statement but
he was permitted to proceed by unan
imous consent, .He said that he and
ex-Senator Chandler had been inform
ed at the same; time of the president's,
change of attitude. They had gone to
gether to Mr Bailey and all three
had rapaired to the residence of Mr.
Moody, "the fourth conspirator," and
had found him apparently entirely in
nocent of knowledge of the change
He admitted that he had hesitated
about entering upon the negotiation
with the president because of bis
just indignation for a past wrong,
but he had concluded to pocket his
pride in the interests of a great cause,
He also said that Senator Allison had
promised him twenty-two votes on the
republican side! hence he had felt
justified in his assurances to the pres
ident s representatives.
Sees Aldrich in Saddle.
It would be useless to pursue the
argument, said Mr. Tillman.
, "The senator from Rhode ; Island
(Mr. Aldrich) has resumed control of
the republicans," he said.
As a slight murmur of mirth ran
through the . senate, Mr. Tillman re
marked: 'The senator need not shake
his head. But I simply want to say
that he has come nearer being un
horsed and thrown in the ditch, than
at any time since I have been here.
This produced an emphasized smile
in the senate.
Turning his attention again to the
president, he . said if the president
stood fast to his original declaration,
we would have won out. .
"As for his treatment of me, I shall
say nothing."
He closed by asking whether or not
the president should be entitled to
he glory of the legislation which was
conceived in a democratic convention.
He would leave the answer to the peo
ple of the country.
Carter in Defense
Senator Carter of Montana was rec
ognized. He remarked, with a smile
that seemed to be understood, that if
the Hon. William E. Chandler form
erly, a senator from New Hampshire,
should be given the floor of the senate
for the rest of the session much light
might be thrown on the subject.
."I should be delighted to hear from
Senator : Chandler," interjected Mr.
Tillman. "And should also be glad to
hear from the president : and Mr.
Moody."
Mr. Carter, after saying he believed
the president had been consistently in
favor of the house bill, made a re
joinder to a remark, he ascribed to
Senator Bailey, who had, he said, re
ferred to him (Carter) i as an insig
nificant member of the body. - r
He would rather be an humble citi
zen than to be afflicted with going
through the world "wrapped in a man
tle of egotism and strutting through
an atmosphere-of vanity, considering
all other men puny."
Senator Bailey at once replied. The
senator from Montana had misquoted
him, he said. He had not referred to
Mr. Carter as an humble or incon
spicuous member of the body, but that
his services in behalf of this bill had
been inconspicuous.
Bailey Reviews Interview.
The senator might just as well treat
himself to the novel sensation of be
ing accurate once in awhile, said Mr.
Bailey. ' Never, he continued, no mat
ter what might be said on the floor of
the senate, should he allow, himself to
be provoked to violent controversy
: He reviewed his interviews with the
attorney general, and then said there
was one great moral to be drawn from
the unfortunate circumstances of this
bill. That was the danger of the re
sult of interference with" the legis:
lative branch of the government by
the executive. However, bad as the
present situation was, he believed that
the future would draw a valuable les
son from the history :j of v this exper
ience.. . MR. ROOSEVELT'S STATEMENT
Wrjtes Letter to Senator Allison in
.-a- Replying to Charges
On May 14 the presderit gave out
the following statement: ' ..
"The White House, Washington,
May 14, 1906. My Dear Senator Alli
son: As Senator Tillman brought in
your name in connection with mine
in the statement he made concerning
our relations to the rate bill last Sat
urday, it is perhaps-due to you that
I should write you on the latter. After
the rate bill was reported from the
committee and after, by vote of the
committee, Mr. Tillman had been put
in charge of it, many senators and
many outsiders came to see me with
reference to it. Among others I was
asked to see ex-Senator Chandler as
representing Mr. Tillman, who was' in
charge of the bill." I stated, in re
sponse that I was of course . entirely
willing to see Mr. Tillman personally
or to see Mr. Chandler or anyone else
who could speak for him, and I ac
cordingly directed my secretary to
make an appointment for Mr. Chand
ler to see me. My understanding was
that he was the representative of Mr.'
Tillman. In this first interview he
stated to me the views of Mr. Tillman
with seeming authority. He called
on me several times During the same
period I saw other gentlemen who
professed to give the views of other
senators. In addition I saw numerous
senators, both republicans and demo
crats, some of them once or twice,
some of them many times. I saw nu
merous outsiders, railroad men, ship
pers, newspaper men and students of
traffic regulation, including especially
the attorney general and members of
the interstate commerce . commission
and on two occasions I saw groups
of newspaper men in a mass.
"To all of these, senators, repre
sentives of senators and outsiders
alike, I made the same statements,'
those that I made to Mr. Chandler be
ing the same in substance that 't
made to you and to those of your"
colleagues of both political; . parties
Wiin wnom 1 naa any. extended conf
erences on the subject. The letter
of the attorney general, which I eni'
close, shows fully the facts as to the
conferences,, which, , at my' instance;
were held with Senators Tillman and
Bailey. Those conferences , were pre
cisely such as at my instance were
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