"BJTyV ' - wujv ySi -.! 1 ??J " ' afv "V 1 APRIL 30, 1909 The Commoner. 3 - , tr r ..("-- EDUCATIONAL SERIES Crime in the Gambling in Food Products No citizen has a natural right to injure any other citizen; and the government should neither enable nor permit him to do so. Speech of William J. Bryan of Nebraska in the House of Representatives, Monday, June 18, 1894. The house being in committee of the whole on the state of the union, having under considera tion the bill (H. R. 7007) known as the Anti Option Bill. Mr. Bryan said: Mr. Chairman: I shall not trespass long on the time of the committee; but it seems to me that if we can strip this question of some of the verbiage which has been thrown about it, and resolve it into a few simple propositions, we may be enabled to arrive at a more just conclusion. The object of the bill and I shall speak only of its general object, because if there are any amendments to bo offered to it which will make it carry out its object better and at the same time make it less onerous upon those whom wo do not desire to disturb, I am perfectly willing that such amendments should be adopted the object of the bill I say, is to prevent gambling in certain products. We can assume, to begin with, that there is gambling in these products. Now, if there is gambling in these products, tho gambling either affects the price of the products gambled in, or it docs not. If it can be shown by the opponents of this bill that gambling in the products named has absolutely no effect whatever in raising or lowering prices, then the only reason for passing the bill wojild be to stop gambling because of its general demoralizing effect upon the community.' If, however, it is admitted that gambling in these products has some effect on prices, how ever small, then that effect must be either to increase or diminish the price of the product gambled in. If the price of the product is increased to the man who buys it, then tho gambler has done a wrong to that man. If the price of the product is decreased to the man who sells it, then the gambler has done wrong to that man, and the only way that you can escape this conclusion is to assert, as was as serted by the gentleman from New York (Mr. Warner), that the gambler helps the man who sells by raising the price of his commodity a little, and helps the man who buys by lowering his price a little, and takes his profit out of those who speculate. Mr. Warner. Will the gentleman allow me? Mr. Bryan. Certainly. Mr. Warner. I do not believe that any gambler ever helped anybody except by the merest chance. It is the investors of funds which might otherwise be idle, who put their investments temporarily in the purchase of wheat or cotton; that produce somewhat of the effect the gentleman has suggested. Mr. Bryan. I care not whether the purpose of the gambler is to help or not. If the gentle man could prove, that the effect of gambling was to take the cost of handling and transport ation out of the pocket of somebody other than the producer and consumer, then he might justify gambling by showing that it is wise for us to promote laws which enable gamblers to take from the people who are willing to gamble and give the benefit of their losses to the pro ducer and consumer alike. But, Mr. Chairman, I am not going to assume that the "gambler simply makes his money out of the people who buy for speculation. I am going to assume, upon evidence satisfactory to me, that these gamblers increase or decrease to some extent the price of the products specu lated in, increasing it to the man who buys or decreasing it to the man who sells. . No citizen has a natural right to injure any other citizen; and the government should neither enable nor permit him to do so. Therefore, no man has a right to lessen the value of another man's prop erty, and the law should not give to a man, or protect him in, the exercise of such a right. My district is perhaps an average district; about half of my constituents live in cities or towns, and about half are engaged in agricul ture. I have in my.district the second largest city in the state, Lincoln, the state's capital a city of 60,000 inhabitants. My home is In that city, and I have no hesitation, in declaring that it is one of the most beautiful and pros perous cities of Its size in the United States. The people who livo in cities will, if gambling in farm products reduces the price of such pro duce, be the beneficiaries to-that extent. But, sir, I do not come here to lower tho price of what my city constituents have to buy, by en abling grain gamblers to take it from the pockets of those who raise farm products. My city constituents do not ask that of me, and I would not assist them in so unjust an act if they did ask it. As I said, about half of my constituents livo on farms, and they labor in a veritablo Garden of Eden, for wo have in the First Nebraska dis trict as beautiful and fertile farm lands as tho sun turns his face upon in all his course. I deny that it is just to the farmers of my dis trict that gamblers should be permitted to bet on the price of their products to their injury after they have prepared their crops for the market. When the farmer has taken tho chances of rain and drouth, when he has taken tho chances which must corne to the farmer as they scarcely come to anybody else; when ho has escaped the grasshopper and tho chinch bug and the rain and tho hail and the dry winds, I insist that he shall not then be left to tho mercy of a gang of speculators, who, for their own gain, will take out of him as much of tho remainder as they can possibly get. There is no difference in tho moral character of the transaction between the action of tho 'burglar who goes to a man's house at night and takes from him a part of that which ho receives for his wheat, and the action of the .gambler who goes on the board of trade, and, by betting on the price of tho product, brings down that price and takes that much from the farmer's income. Mr. Black, of Georgia. If the gentleman will permit me? I am seeking information on this subject, and desire to ask a question. Do you hold that it is proper legislation for congress' to pass an act against the burglar of whom you speak? Mr. Bryan. I am coming to that in a mo ment. The gentleman anticipates a part of tho argument which I shall reach in time. Mr. Black, of Georgia. I should be glad to hear from the gentleman on that point. Mr. Bynum. Let me ask the gentleman what becomes of the other gambler who is buying the wheat? What Is he doing all this time? Mr. Bryan. I am not speaking of any par ticular gambler, but of the transaction in gen eral. It may be that the man who sells wheat in the market for future delivery will be lower ing the price more than the man who buys, or the reverse may be true. But I speak simply of the gambler who claims the right to specu late in another man's produce, and who, by his speculation, affects the prices of what tho farmer has to sell. Mr. Goldzier. Will the gentleman yield to me for a question? Mr. Bryan. Certainly. Mr. Goldzier. A question on general prin ciples? Mr. Bryan. Yes, sir. Mr. Goldzier. Do you consider high wheat as a blessing to the world at large? Mr. Bryan. Mr. Chairman, the question whether high wheat is a blessing to the world at large depends very much on circumstances. It depends upon what makes it high or what makes it low. Mr. Goldzier. Are there any circumstances under which the high price of food is a blessing to the majority of the people of the world? Do you know of any Instance in history? Mr. Bryan. If the price of food Is high, as compared with the price of other things, it Is not a blessing, and if the price Is raised by the action of anybody, beyond what natural laws would fix it, I do not believe that it can be justified. Mr. Coombs. While It Is true that the price of wheat has gone down, Is it not equally true that the price of all other products that the farmer uses have gone down even in greater proportion? Mr. Bryan. Nearly everything has fallen In price, except the debt which he owes; that has not gone down. Mr. Lane. That has gone up. Mr. Bryan. The gentleman has spoken of the fall in prices. There are a number of things which enter into and affect prices. Supply and demand, other things being equal, will regulato prices gonorally; but tho controling Influonco of supply and demand may bo changed from timo to time by other causes. It may bo that tho price of wheat or grain will rise with all othor things and bo duo to a fall in the price of money, and it may bo that tho prico of grain will fall with all othor things, because money rises; but what wo aro aiming at in this bill is, not to stop the appreciation of gold, nnd thus prevent a greater fall in prices, nor is it to supply more money in ordor to nmko prices higher, nor Is it to incrcaso tho supply of grain, or to diminish or increase tho demand for grain. Wo aro now simply striking at ono of the things which enters into tho prico of grain from day to day? and we beliovo that tho farmor and the man who buys his product should both bo loft to buy and sell in accordance with natural laws, and that prices should not bo affected by the action of other people speculating upon their products for the benefit of (he speculators them selves. Mr. Goldzier. Does not tho gentleman con sider that improved methods of production havo had more of an infiuenco on tho prico of grain than any othor matter you can mention? Mr. Bryan. It is not necessary for us to enter into a discussion as to how much, if any, of tho fall in tho price of farm products Is duo to Im proved machinery. Mr. Goldzier. Do you not admit that it must bo? If you speak of tho law of supply and de mand, do you not admit that it must bo. You know that the supply has been vastly increased. Mr. Bryan. Tho demand also has boon large ly increased, and I havo hoard it stated I will not state it on my own authoritythat there has been little or no improvement in tho methods of producing cotton in the last twenty or thirty years. Mr. Williams, of Mississippi. If tho gentleman from Nebraska .will permit mo, I just want to say, in response to tho inquiry of tho gentleman from Illinois (Mr Goldzier) that the prico of cotton has gone down as much as tho prico of wheat, and thero has not been ono single, soil- tary improvement in tho method of producing cotton; not ono piece of labor-saving machinery. Mr. Goldzier. Tho reason for that can prob ably be found in the fact that there aro substi tutes for it. Mr. Williams, of Mississippi. Not at all. Mr. Bryan. I can not yield to an argument by any gentleman on any point in this discus sion. I am willing to yield for any question, and I shall answer it as best I can, but I do not want to yield for an argument by any gentleman who may think I am not correct. Mr. Marsh. If the gentleman from Nebraska will permit me I wish in one sentence to answer my colleaguo from Illinois, Mr. Goldzier. The Chairman. Does tho gentleman yield? Mr. Bryan. If the gentleman will state it In a word. Mr. Marsh. Tho gentleman asks If tho im proved machinery used by the farmers at the present time does not largely account for tho fall In the price of wheat. I want to say here, Mr. Chairman, as a practical farmer in tho stato of Illinois, that it costs as much in dollars to raise a bushel of wheat today in Illinois, with all your improved machinery, as it cost forty years ago. And I am prepared to establish the truthfulness absolutely of that statement. Mr. Goldzier. I do not think the gentleman from Nebraska will aocept that; because tho statistics are directly contrary to that statement. Mr. Bryan. Mr. Chairman, I must insist that if the gentlemen desire to interrupt my remarks they will confine their interruptions to ques tions. I will not deny or indorse what has been stated by the gentleman - from Illinois (Mr. Marsh), who answers and gives his opinion as to tho cost of producing wheat. I do not, be lieve, however, that In the last few years there has been any such improvement In the cost of producing wheat as will account for the great fall in the price of wheat, nor do I believe that in the last year there has been any such reduction in the cost of production as would account for the tremendous fall in the price of wheat. That, In my judgment, it is due to legislation which has appreciated the value of gold and robbed the farmer of his just dues. (Applause.) Mr. Goldzier. I would like to make one sug gestion there. Mr. Bryan. I can not yield for a suggestion. If the gentleman desires to ask a question, I will answer him. Mr. Goldzier. 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