The Commoner. NOVEMBER 27, 10X 3 AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION A reader of The Commoner requests the re production of an Interesting discussion brought about when, a New Yorker who signed himself "Northern Democrat' wrote a letter to the New Orleans Times-Democrat. The discussion will he so interesting to demo crats that The Commoner reproduces both the "Northern Democrat's" letter and the Times Democrat's editorial. "New York, July 28, 1893. To the Editor of the Times-Democrat: As a northern democrat who has no 'axes to grind,' and no favors to ask, and who seeks for nothing but the highest wel fare of his party, and the triumph of its prin ciples, as laid down by Jefferson, Jackson and Til den, I take the liberty of addressing you these lines. I am directly led to do this by an extract from your paper that recently came to my notice. In this extract you made a bitter attack on Grover Cleveland and' upon that 'section of his party which failed to support Mr. Bryan in the two re cent campaigns. You stated that It was needless to discuss the question of Mr. Cleveland's party loyalty, as that was something which 'does not exist.' As I take It for granted that the Times Democrat is desirous of -the success of the demo cratic party at the approaching national contest, and, unlike Mr. Bryan, not asking to see that event indefinitely postponed, there are a few questions I should like to submit to its considera tion. "1. What right has Mr. Bryan, or any set of individuals, to claim that'tho Chicago platform of 1896 was the true declaration of democratic" principles to which failure to subscribe meant party treason, and failure to support the candi date named by the convention of that ; ear meant failure to remain a democrat? Why should the Chicago platform of 1896 be the standard of true democracy rather than the platforms adopted by the party at the conventions which nominated Tilden, Hancock and Cleveland the last named three tines in succession? If democratic prin ciples have any real substance, and if a man believes in them heart and soul, he cannot cast them aside at the behest of any body of men, and support men and measures which represent exact ly the reverse of those principles. I presume the Times-Democrat will not deny that the Chicago platform of 1896 was a complete reversal of the platforms adopted by the party at its previous na tional conventionssimply because a declaration in recent years is surely no reason why it should be binding it-it is false to all that has preceded it "2. Now that the silver question Is as dead an issue as the slavery question, is it not evident that if the democratic party Is to succeed in the future it must bring back to its ranks the men who opposed free silver, just as thirty years ago it brought back to its ranks the men who op posed slavery? Mr. Bryan's old allies, the pop ulists, have returned to their first love, the re publican party the recent elections in the former Bryan states of the west prove that So tha If there is to be any hore of democratic success in the future it 'is only to be secured by getting the support of those democrats who twice elected Grover Cleveland to the presidency, aid all of vhom have not yet returned to their party's lanks. "3. Is it not plain that to secure such spp Port the continued personal abuse of Mr. Cleve land is a ioot way to go about it? Does not the Times-DeiL'Qcrat .believe that the success of the party is of far greater moment than the success f any n-ere Individual? Does .the Times-Democrat regard the continuous stream' of personal abuse, which Mr. Bryan has been pouring forth. ion Grover Cleveland, either dignified or states- manlike, or conducive to the welfare of the party? Mr. Bryan, according to his own admission, voted against Mr. Cleveland in 1892. Why is Mr. Clove land's sin in refusing some years later to vote for Mr. Bryan the more unpardonable of the two? That the Times-Democrat will in the future de vote its splendid energies and abilities to the re uniting and uplifting of its party rather than to the discussion of Issues and Individuals that are alike politically dead is the sincere hopo of a "NORTHERN DEMOCRAT." Under the headline, "Mr. Cleveland and pem ocracy," the Times-Democrat replied as follows: "Under this caption wo print today a letter over the signature 'Northern Democrat which re lates to an editorial that appeared in the Times Democrat a week or two ago, and which was In part widely copied in tho pipers of the United States. 'Northern Democrat' appears to have read an extract from that, e'ditorial, and declares it a bitter attack upon 'that section of the party which failed to support Mr. Bryan in tho two recent canvasses.' . "The editorial in question criticised Mr. Cleve land alone, because his peculiar connection with and obligations to the party should have had upon him a more binding force than any claims that existed upon the merem rank and file, many of whom in their defection simply followed him as the putative party leader, thoughtlessly believing he must be right by virtue of that position. The editorial In question made no reference to 'that section of the party which failed to support Mr. Bryan in the two recent elections;' and Mr. Cleve land himself might have escaped that particular criticism but for the fact tha.. the zeal of many of his admirers outran their discretion, and they have' been busily engaged In grooming him for a fourth nomination as the democratic candidate 'for the presidency. Aside from the fact that there exists a strong public prejudice a sort of un written law against a third presidential term which would make his nomination ill-advised and undesirable, there are other and sufficient reasons why ho, who ha3 done so much to impair the con fidence of tho democratic voters in his good faith, should never wgaln bo entrusted with tho party leadership. rt "And now we will answer tho queries of Northern Democrat': "1. The Chicago convention of 1896 was duly called by the proper authorities of the national democratic party for the purpose of formulating a platform of party principles for the canvass then Impending, and to nominate a presidential and vice presidential canaiuate to make the race on the platform there and then adopted. That con vention performed its allotted work; the prin ciples enunciated in that platform voiced tho sen timent of the great mass of tho democrats throughout the union, and the nominees of that convention comprised the only democratic candi dates in that national contest If party organi zation, discipline and 'nity bo desirable (as Northern Democrat' appearr. now to bdleve), they were just as important to the success of tho democratic party in 1896 as they possibly can be in 1904. But in 1896 there were some defections from the ranks of democracy notably ex-President Grover Cleveland. Today the majority of the democrats who stood by the platform In that contest are told most modestly, in substance: 'We helped the republicans lick you in 1896 and in 1900; we trampled upon and broke the principal plank in the democratic plat'form and that party tenet is no longer an issue. Now you fellows who stuck by the party principle in those two elec tions go away back and sit down, wuile we who helped to beat you, with Mr. Cleveland at our head, will take charge of the party organization and run the old machine to suit tho views of' "Whom? There is an old saying about a cer tain tail that was supposed to have wagged the ' dog that owned it, but the Times-Democrat novor placed implicit rcllanco in that story. "2. Tho silver question Is no longer an lssuo, nor is it likely to bo for many years to como. Tho question now I'gitnting tho democratic mind is not whother tho position of the party on that question in 1896 and 1900 was wise or otherwise. What tho democrats are asking themselves is, whethor any good reason exists for again trust ing as a leader ono who, in tho years I&'ja to 1896 inclusive, exerted all his influonco and powers aa chief executive to break down and destroy ono of the planks In the democratic platform on which ho was nominated and elected, and which declared as a party principle for tho c".ago of both gold and silver without chargo for mintage? That plank was construed before the election as a frco silver plank that was in lino w th democratic pol icy since 1875. How did Mr. Cleveland construo it after ho was elected? Ho interpreted it to mean that gold should bo coined frco of mintage and silver not at all. Mr. Cleveland's acceptance of tho nomination on that platform was tho strongest sort of pledge that ho would, when elected, use his best efforts to ceo the party policy carried out. If he could so pervert tho meaning of a party plank after election In ono Instance, why might ho not warp and annul a party prin ciple in another Instance? Tho democrats of the country are unwilling to place themselves at tho mercy of ono who is given to such frco and uii; warranted interpretations of party doctrines, There is an old proverb to the effect that he who in deceived once may blamo tho deceiver; but if ho bo deceived a second time by the same Indi vidual, ho can censure nd one but himself. Demoj crats do not care to incur self-blame. "3. The election of Mr. Cleveland would en tail upon the party four years of suspense p.nd anx iety, because until tho expiration of his term it would be a matter of doubt whether he would endeavor to carry out tho tenets of his own party or BupptJrt tho theories of r. Cleveland himself, which are sometimes greatly at variance with Che enunciated doctrines of democracy. Therefore, it would be a four years' riddle to understand whether, in electing him, tho democratic party or Mr. Cleveland himself had achieved a success. In 1892 we fondly believed wo had won a victory for democracy. We found to our sorrow that wo had assisted Mr. Cleveland to win a triumph for himself and for those who opposed democratic tenets. "Tho Times-Democrat Is sincerely anxious to aid in securing a victory for the democratic party; but it will rupture no blood vessel to promote the individual views and ambition of Grover Cleve land, or to place him where ho can again stifle the voice of democracy." JJJ Having escaped punishment by threatening to pull down a few pillars of the republican temple, Mr. Estes G. Rathbone seems now a tcrmined to achieve a little notoriety by kicking holes in a few military bastions. If Mr. Chamberlain wants a good object les son in his protective tariff campaign, let him point to tho Laird of Skibo, who made several hundred millions of money by tariff favor. But let not 'the Honorable Joseph make the mlstaka of mentioning Homestead when referring to An drew. Elder Dowle and President Roosevelt met tha other day and New York was one of the subject discussed. Not being a mind reader it la im posible to tell what Elder Dowle thought, but.it Is safe to say that he thought a great deal Ilka the president must have taiKed when he read .thi returns, ' . - & fl f . j