let her get out that morning, at that
place? A. It waa certainly was,
y-
Q. DM yon Inform her before she
trwk that door that if ah wanted
to Ro ah could? A. I didut speak
to her on the subject
Q. Never aald a word! A. No,
I dldnt.
Q. Now thla bablt (hat you apeak of
ha bad consisted of what? A. A
lark dreaa and whit rap.
Q. Th black dress waa made of
what material? A. Of serge.
O. A black rr and a whit cap
of what kmd? A. Unwi I bellev.
Q. Waa ther anything to hav
prevented you from taking that bablt
and that night cap the night before?
A. Ther waa nothing directly to
prevent m. The girl that cam and
told me
Q. Now that la not tba queatlon..
Waa ther anything there to prevent
you I understand you to aay no. A.
Not If I pleaaed.
Q. You certainly believed aha waa
going to do aomethlng when you took
the pwiutloni didn't you. quite
thoroughly T A. I doubted It very
much.
Q. Too didn't bellev thla girl waa
going to run away? A. I didn't be
lieve Q. And attll you placed a girl at
each end of thla paaaageway to atop
her? A. Yea. In rase It waa true.
Q. Well, you were determined then
that ahe ehouldn't go away, anyway?
A. I waa determined ahe ahouldn't
break the window to got out in that
way.
Q. Yon Beyer offered her any other
way to get out from the Saturday
from the day you beard of thla? A.
She never naked or gave any reaion.
Q. And from the time you heard
of thla Friday until ahe broke that
window and got out, you never of
fered bar any other way to get out?
A. She bad an opportunity
Q. I aald you never offered It to
her? A. I aald nothing to ber about
It at all. 8he could come to me
Q. You didn't Inform her either
that you knew ahe waa going to es
cape? A. No, I did not I didn't
think It waa necessary.
Q. Well did you holler anything to
them after ahe broke the window? A.
To Ursula.
Q. What did you holler? A. I
aatd "Don't let ber break that win
dow." Q. Then you beard tba smash? A.
Yea.
Q. What did u boiler then? A.
I said nothing. Ursula ran immedi
ately. I don't know what they did at
the other end, I didn't aee it
Q. Now bow long after that waa
It after ahe waa brought back
there, bow long waa K before she waa
finally released? A. The following Feb
ruary. Q. Thla waa in what month ahe
broke the door? A. It waa in May,
the 13th of 14th of 1896.
Q. And the got out in February
following? A. Following February.
Q. Now before this time that Se
line escaped were you ever informed
that ahe was planning to escape? A
You mean previous to the time ahe
ran away?
Q. Yea. A. I got no direct testi
mony that she was.
Q. Well what testimony did you
get? A. I beard In a very indirect
way that I was trying to explain
last night that she spoke of going
off with some prisoners that waa
there.
Q. How long before (this escape
waa that? A. I can't remember. I
heard tt in a very indirect way.
Q. About bow long would you put
it? A. I don't know how long it
was. I couldn't tell you because I
don't know.
Q. Would you put it a month or
two months or three months, or just
give us. an Idea, I don't care about
the exact time, you know. A. It
might have been two or three months.
Q. Have you had any other in
mates there escape from the house?
A. Yes.
Q. Who? A. Francis Monteur and
two other girls escaped one night
Q. Any others? A. Those three
that left that I epoke of this morning.
Q. The Purdy girl and Emma Cote
and Jennie Moran any- others? A.
I think there was one that went away
once and returned m two weeks.
Q. How long had Ursula been in
your place? A. She was there when
I first took charge.
Q. Had been there about how many
years, as you understand It. at that
time, previous to that time? A. I
couldn't tell you.
Q Were you ever informed? A. I
couldn't tell you.
Q. Were you ever Informed? A. I
heard her aay she was six years in
the house all together. I don't know
how long she was, I never paid any
attention to Jt.
Q. As a rule you require all conver
sations that take place between In
mates and outsiders to be In the Eng
lish language do you not? A. Yea,
sir, where they can.
Q. You say everybody of age there
can go when they are a mind to, te
that true? A. Well, of course, if they
insist on going. We do advise them
to stay.
Q. Were you there when Seline left?
A. I was.
Q. Do you remember who called
there to see her? A. There waa a
person who claimed to be her cousin
in, accompanied by another person.
Q. Did you see that man on the !
stand? Did you see him when he was
sworn? A. I heard him, I saw him
when he was sworn.
Q. Well, you heard what he tes
tified to, did you, about It? A. Not
distinctly; I don't recollect it alL
Some things I da
Q. Well you went into the parlor
to see hhn? A. Yes.
Q. What did he ask you? A. I asked
him what the name was and he told
me.
Q. Well, what did he say? A. He
aald he would like to see her. So I
kind of thought I knew who it waa
I hadn't heard her name before; I
went in and asked her what her name
was and she told me.
Q. You brought her oat? A. I
brought her straight to the parlor.
Q. Was there any other person
with this gentleman? A. Yet, There
was another man.
Q. Well, did be ask Seline if ahe
wanted to go? A. Not Immediately.
Q. Well, did ha. A. In the course
of the conversation he did.
Q. He did? And what did ahe say?
A. She aald yea, ah would go.
Q. And what did he aay? A. Ha
aald "Very well, for her to get ready."
Q. And what did ahe aay? A. Well,
I don't remember exactly what ahe
aald after that
q. Well, did ahe say anything to
you or anybody there? A. I believe
aba aald "Do you tbmk I can go." I
aald certainly.
Joule Anderson sworn in behalf of
plaintiff, testified aa followa:
Hy Mr. Hutu.
q. How old are you, Joale? A. I
am 20 years old.
q. When were you 20? A. The 9th
of July.
q. Were you ever in the House of
the Good Shepherd? A. Yes. str.
q. When did you get out of there?
A. The 29th of June.
q. This last June? A. Yea, sir.
q. So you were in a month of 20
years of age when you came out? A.
No, not quite.
q. Well, in July you became 20 and
you got out in June? A. Yes, sir.
q. Well, did you go In there
when the first time? A. Well, the
year before the last time.
q. The year before the last time,
who put you in there? A. My fath
er. q. How long did you stay In there
that time? A. Three months.
q. Then how long after that was
it you went the second time? A.
About a year.
q. Who put you in then? A. Well,
I was put In part by the by Mr.
Hammergren and part by the Court.
q. He complained to the court, did
he? A.. Yes. sir.
q. Who is Mr. Hammergren? A. He
is the policeman.
q. Well, you were put in for how
long then? A. Three months.
q. How long did you stay? A. I
staid there about a year and seven
months.
q. Now what ward were you put
into this last time? A. The laundry.
q. Where were were you put there
when Seline Clewett got away this
time? A. Yes sir.
q. Who went after her? A. Annie
Dupres and I.
q. Who told you to go? A. Mother
St Zephrlne.
q. What time in the morning was
this when she escaped? A. It was
about half past 6 or 7 o'clock.
q. Well, what did Mother St Zeph
rlne say to you? A. She wanted us
to get her.
q. And what did she say? A. She
said if we didn't get ber that she
could have her arrested for break
ing the window
q. Did she say anything about
bringing her back? A. Yes, sir, she
told us to bring her back.
q. How did the girls get out? A.
Went through the window she broke.
q. Did you have any shoes on? A.
No, air.
q. Who told you not to wear shoes?
A. Mother told us.
q. Why didn't you wear shoes? A.
She wouldn't hear us make any noise.
q. Now did you or not know that
she was going to break one of those
windows? A. Yes, bIt.
O. Who told yon? A. Mother.
q. Mother St. Zephrlne? A. Yes,
sir. she told us the night before.
q. She told you the night before
that Rellne was going to break out?
A. Yes. sir.
q. And what did she tell you girls
to do? A. She told us to stay home
from the mass and watch her..
q. And where did you stay? A. In
the cloister, in the hall. . that, is in
from the coming in from the laun
dry. q. You staid in from mass and staid
in the A. Yes. sir.
q. In this ball to watch her A.
Yea. sir.
q. In that adjoining room? and
did you hear her break the window?
A. yes, sir, she broke It with a brick.
O. What did you do? A. Ran aft
er her. Mother told us to catch her.
q. So that you knew the night be
fore that this was going to take place
in the morning? A. Yes. sir.
q. Well, you ran after her, and
what dM you do then? A. We caught
her down on the next block.
q. Well, what did she do? A. She
jumped on the milk wagon, and An
nie Dupres says to the milkman that
if he took her that she was going
to have him arrested. So he didn't
take her.
q. Did you see thfe whip? A. Yes,
sir.
q. What did she do with it? A. She
was going to strike us with it if we
came near her.
q. Was Seline angry? A. Yes,
sir, she was angry.
q. What did she do? A. She jump
ed off the milk wagon and ran across
the street and fell on the sidewalk.
q. What did you girls do then?
A. We caught her, and then we walk
ed down the street and theft I turned
around and I says, "Oh, there's Mar
tin," and he came and took her in
the wagon.
q. Now when you walked down the
street was she still angry? A. Yes,
sir, she was.
q.. Was she frightening you girls?
A. No, sir, she wasn't frightening, but
she was angry.
q. What did she say about what
she would do? A. She said she was
coming to court, she wasn't going
back.
q. Well, when Martin came, what
did she do? A. He told her to hurry
up and get in the wagon, that if she
didn't she would draw a crowd of peo
ple around.
q. Well, that's what he said? A.
Yes.
q. And what did he do? A. Well,
q. Did he grab hold of her? A. I
was so excited that I didn't
q. You was so excited A. That
I didn't see what he done to her. -
q. Did she get in the wagon or
how did she get in the wagon, If you
know? A. Well, she knew there was
no way to get away from him and
so she had to get in the wagon. He
waa standing right over her.
q. Well, did you two get in too?
A. Yes, sir, we did.
q. Now you say when she fell down
you girls grabbed hsr? A. Yea, sir.
q. After you took bold of ber what
did you do? A. We walked.
q. Well, which way did you walk?
A. W walked down toward town.
q. Away from this Inttltulon?
A. Yea. air.
q. What did Seline keep doing? A. j
sne said sne was not going to go
back: that she was going down to
court
l q. Well, did anybody have hold of
her then? A. We had hold of her.
q. You both bad hold of her? A.
Yes, sir.
q.. Well, how far did you go that
way ? A. We went about four or five
i blocks.
q. And then what happened? A.
! Then Martin came.
q. And when Martra came up did
.you still have hold of her? A. Yes.
q. Well, when Martin drove up
what did he do? A. He jumped down
I off the wagon and stood on the side
walk. q. How close to Seline? A. Whr,
bo was as close as that thing is to me.
q. Did be speak, did be talk angry
or otherwise? A. No, he didn't.
q. What did he say to Seline?
Mr. Clapp: Just a moment He
didn't talk angry? A. No, he didn't
He says for her to hurry up and get
in the wagon or she would draw a
crowd around her.
Mr. Butts:
q. Did he say how he came there?
A. He said that the staters sent htm
down.
q. Down to do what? A. Down to
get her back.
q. What did Seline do when he told
j her to get In the wagon? A. She said
that she wouldn't go. She said that
we bad no right to bring her back.
I q. What did Martin and you girls
do then? A. Well. I don't remember
.what he said because I was so ex
cited. I didn't pay any attention to
anything.
q. You went down for the purpose
of brlnelng her bark, did you? A. Yes.
q. Was tt a rule there for you to
obey the sister when she told you to?
A. Yes. sir, it was
q. Well, did she finally get in the
wagon. A. Yes. sir, she did.
q.. You don't remember whether
Martin put his band on her or not?
No, Btr. I don't remember.
q. You were so excited. Well, now
did you two get in the wagon? A.
Yes. sir. we did.
q. Then where did you go? A.
We went back..
q. And where did tou go? A. We
went back to the aide way with the
laundry, where the gate opens.
q. When you got back there what
took place there? A. Well, the sis
ters came out and told her to come
In.
O. And what did she say? A. She
said ahe wouldn't come. She wouldn't
got out of the wagon. At last she did
get out.
q. What did Martin say to her there
If anything that you heard? A. The
sisters told us to go In the house. Told
the girls to go in the house.
q. Well, did she come In or dM
they get her in pretty soon? A. Well,
she came In pretty soon.
q. And what did they do then?
What did the aMera do with te
doo'a? A. THEY LOCKED THE
DOOR8.
q. nin they lock this gate?
A. YES. SIR.
q. And whwn you were chasing her
down there did she have any beads?
A.. She had her rosaries.
Q. What did she do with that? A.
She threw them.
O. What did she say? A. She Bays.
"To h 1 with te ba'ls." She savs.
"I'll never pray on them aaln."
q. When she waa walking down
town were you girls trying to pre
vent her going away? A. Yes, sir.
O. What were you doing to ber? A.
Well, we told her to come back and
that the sisters would let her go it
she would come back.
q. And what did she say? A. She
saAd she wouldn't come back, that
they would never let her out.
q. Now Josle, while you were In
there were you ever told at any time
to watch Seline besides this once. A.
I was told to watch her two or three
davs before she ran away.
q. Who told you this? A. The
mother old me to keep my eye on her.
q. Where were you when she told
you that? A. I was in the claa.
q. Did they say what for? A.
That she was going to run away.
q. Well, did she ever tell you more
than those two times to watch her?
A. Not that I remember of.
q. Did any of the sisters there ever
tell you anythlnlg about letting Seline
out? A. No. sir.
q. Did Mother St Zephrlne ever
tell you whether or not Seline w
going to ret out? A. SHE RATD
THAT MRS. ROOT PUT HEK
THERE AND SHE HAD NO AU
THORITY TO LET HER OUT.
O. THAT WHO HAD NO AU
THORITY? A. , MOTHER.
q. Did she say whether she would
let her out or not? A. She said
she would let her out In six months.
q. In six months from when? A.
From the time she ran away.
q. In six months then? A. Yes,
If she would behave herself.
O. Did yon ever see Seline have the
keys? A. Yes, I did.
q. How often did she have them?
A. She bad Mother St Bernard's keys
quite often.
O.. How long did she have them?
A. Just long enough to open and shut
the door and lock it
q. Would the sister be in sight of
her? A. Yes, sir.
q. Did she ever have the keys to
carry round all the while? A. No.
q. WERE ALL THESE WINDOWS
BOLTED AND BARRED? A. YES STR.
q. SO YOU COULDN'T GET OUT?
A. YES, SIR.
q. Did you ever hear the sisters say
anything to the class there, when
they became of are?
A. She says the law was passed
from 18 nntil we would be 2L
q. What did you ever hear the sis
ters say if anything, that would hap
pen if any girl asked to get out? A.
Well, the girls were in the laundry
one time and they were talking about
getting out. and so she clapped them
all In the class and she said if she
wonld hear anyone mentioning about
getting out. that they were of age.
that they could get out, she said that i
:v' 9
I sjl . Li'j-
Seline Clewett,
SHE WOULD NEVER LET THEM
OUT.
q. Did you ever hear her say that
more than once? A. No, sir.
q. When was that? A. I don't
remember when it was, but I remem
ber she said it
q. Did you ever hear any of the
sisters saying anything to the in
mates there, call their names? A.
Well, she called them, well, "dirty
animals" she called them.
q. Were there any pets in there,
any favorites? A. Well, there were
a few treated better than the rest
q. Were you one of them? A.
Yes.
q. Did they try to get you to become
a Magdalene? A. Yes. sir.
q. Well, who were the ones in there
that they treated better? A. Well,
It was Leona, Genevieve and I I
don't remember any more.
q. Did the plaintiff ever tell you
whether she wanted to get out or not?
A. Yes. sir. every time she got a
chance to talk to me she said she
wished she was out
q. DID YOU SEE HER CRYING
IN THERE FREQUENTLY? A. I
SAW HER CRYING UPSTAIRS IN
THE DORMITORY AND I ASKED
HER IF SHE WAS SICK OR WHAT
WAS THE MATTER, AND SHE
SAID "NO. SHE WISHED SHE WAS
OUT."
q. When was that? A. It was
about two weeks before she ran
away.
q. How often did she say to you
that she wished she was out? A. She
said It every time we met, nearly
every day.
q. And you were In there how long
with her? A. A year and seven
months.
q. Now what do you say about the
place being Infested with vermin, bed
bugs and such things? A. Yes, there
were bed bugs and other kinds of bugs
too.
q. Were there many of them? A.
quite a few.
q. Were they plenty enough to say
they were in the walls? A. Yes, sir.
q. WERE THERE ANY GIRLS
THERE THAT WERE LOUSY? A.
YES, SIR. THERE WAS.
q. DID THAT CONTINUE RIGHT
ALONG WHILE YOU WERE
THERE? A. YES. SIR.
q. Just the same? A. Well, the"
changed a little AFTER SELINE
WENT OUT.
q. Was It .after she brought this
suit? A. YES. SIR.
Q. They changed a little, what did
they do? A. THEY GOT THEM
NEW SKIRTS AND CLOTH TO
MAKE WAISTS AND SOME UNDER
WEAR AND STOCKINGS.
q. That was after she brought this
suit? A. Yes, sir.
q. But still the bed bugs were there?
A. They got Iron bedsteads, but the
bugs still remained they were in the
walls.
q. And the girls some of them
were still lousy? A. Yes, sir.
q. Now, could the sisters have
known all these things? A. Yes,
sir, I suppose so.
q. Could they help seeing them?
A. No, sir.
q. How did Seline act in there.? A.
She was going around as if she was
sick or something was the matter with
her.
q. She appeared to be sad? A.
Yes, for a couple of weeks.
q. And the sisters could see if
they wanted to. her condition? A. Yes
sir.
q. When Sister Zephrlne told you
to go after Seline, was she angry or
not? A. She was.
q. How did she look? A. Her
face kind of flushed.
q. Was that the way she looked
when she got angry? A. Yes, sir.
q. Did you ever see her that way
before? A. Yes, quite often. When
she would scold the girls.
q. Did she scold the girls quite oft
en? A. Yes. sir.
q. And when she got that way
did the girls mind? A. Yes, sir.
q. Now Just tell the Jury how you
came to be in where you were so that
you could run after her that morn
ing. A. Well, they told us to stay home
from mass and watch her when she
They left the door open for us to run
through.
q. Was that door usually open? A.
No, sir, it was locked.
q. They left it open for you for
what? A. For us to run through
when we would hear her break the
window.
q. WHAT AMUSEMENTS DID
YOU HAVE ON SUNDAYS? A. WELL
THEY WOULD DANCE ON SUN
DAY. q. Did anybody ever come there to
see you while you were in there? A.
My sister and her husband came out
there to see me, but they couldn't see
me.
q. Now when you caught Seline
down there was she or not angry? A.
She was angry, so angry that she waa
pale.
the plaintiff.
q. Did she tremble? A. No, but
she was kind of weak the blood run
from her arm.
q. Were you told to watch other
Utrls in there besides Seline? A. Yes,
sir.
Katie Conley, sworn on behalf of
the plaintiff, testified as follows:
By Mr. Butts:
q. Katie, how old are you? A. I
am 24 years old.
q.. Where were you born? A. I
was born in Ireland, at a place called
Turnhead.
q. Are your father and mother liv
ing? A. No, sir, my father and moth
er are dead.
q. When did they die? A. When I
was about 3 years old.
q. Where were you put? A. I was
put In the St. James class in Ireland.
That is the House of the Good Shep
herdsame thing that this la. but not
exactly.
q. How long did you stay there,
Katie? A. I stopped there 10 years and
6 months.
Q. You were put in there as an or
phan? A. Yes, sir, I was.
q. Now, after you came to this
country, did you ever go into the
House of the Good Shepherd, out
there? A. Yes, sir, when I was a
year and six months in this country I
did.
Q. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
IN THE HOUSE OF THE GOOD
SHEPHERD OUT HERE? A. TEN
YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
q. CAN YOU READ AND WRITE?
A. NO. SIR, I CAN'T.
q. YOU HAVE BEEN THERE 10
YEARS AND HOW MANY MONTHS?
A. TEN YEARS AND SIX MONTHS.
q. OVER THERE? A. YES, SIR.
q. UNDER THEIR CARE. AND
YOU CAN'T READ OR WRITE? A.
NO, I CAN'T.
q. Now during the ten years you
have been out there A. Yes, I was
there four years and I went away and
I went back again one year.
' Q. Now, during that time do you
know how they fed them there? A.
WELL, WHEN I WENT THERE
THEY USED TO GET BARRELS OF
STUFF FROM THE HOTELS AND
BOARDING HOUSES IN THE CITY.
q. And how did this stuff come?
A. Well, just pies and corn bread and
beans and things like that, and
meats.
Q. WHAT DID IT COME IN? A.
JUST IN THE BARRELS.
q. And how did they dish it out to
you? A. In plates.
q. Was this the refuse from the
tables? The stuff that came off from
the tables from the hotels? A. Yes,
I think it was. I didn't see it, but I
seen it when it was dishing up.
q. WHEN IT WAS ALL MIXED
UP? A. YES, SIR, IT WAS.
q. That was the way they put it
on the tables for you? A. Yes, sir.
q. How many years did they do
that out there? A. Well, they done
It for about a year when I was there
first
q. Now Katie, are you a virgin?
A. Yes, sir, I am a virtuous, pur glrL
AND I WAS UNTIL I WENT INTO
THE GOOD SHEPHERD'S, AND
THEN I LEARNED ALL MY BAD
NESS AND WICKEDNESS IN
THERE.
q. Now do you know whether the
girls in there were planning to get
out? A. Yes, sir, they were, sir, a
good many of them.
q. And do you know whether the
sisters were watching? A. Yes, sir
I was watching myself, for the
sisters, some of them.
q. What ones? A. Well, I waa
watching Frances Monteur.
q. This plaintiff? A. Yes, sir, I
was.
q. What sisters told you to watch
her. A. Mother St Zephrlne.
q. How long did you watch her?
A. Well, for a week or so on the
sly.
q. Then did the sister tell you that
she suspected she wanted to get out?
A. Yes, sir.
q. Do you know whether there were
other girls there that did watching?
A. Oh, yes, a good many others. Geor
gia Warner did. (Outsld name.)
q. What is her name there? A.
Carmel.
q. What others? A. Ursula done
watching.
q. Her name is? A. Annl Du
pres. q. She is another one that did
watching? A. Yes, sir, Leona and
Veronica.
q. That is this girl Josle Ander
son? A. Yes. sir.
q. They used to do watching? A.
Yes, sir.
q. Well, were they supposed to be
on better terms with the nuns than
the others. A. Certainly they were.
q. Is that the way they got to be
better friends? A. Yea.
q. The nuns petted them tor It?
A. Yes. sir, they did.
q. Well, you saw the plaintiff then
there while she was thero and how
she worked, did you? A. Yes, sir.
q Was ahe a good worker? JL
She was a No. 1 class worker.
q. Do you know whether she was
trying to get out? A. Yes. I did
and she told me herself she waa try
ing to got out and she was going to
run away before she got out this tlm
and I was going to run away with
her.
q. DID YOU EVER SEE THEM
MAKE THEM GET DOWN ON
THEIR KNEES? A. YES. SIR. I
DID.
q. HOW LONG WOULD THET
MAKE THEM STAY ON THEIR
KNEES? A. WELL, ABOUT HALF
A DAY. OR A WHOLE DAY.
q. As penance? Yet, air.
q. How often did you see that
done? A. Seven or eight times.
q. What girls? A. quite a few f
them; I can't remember all.
q. How many times? A. Well, if
there was anyone in the run-away
scrape I was told to watch them.
q. If there was anyone in the
run-away scrape? A. Yes, sir, w
were always talking about pinning;
away.
q. If they were trying to run away
you were told to watch them? Whw
told you? - A. Mother Zephrlne.
Ursula, sworn on behalf of the de
fendants, testified as follows:
By Mr. Clapp
q. How old are you? A. Seven
teen, sir..
q. Are you living at the House of
the Good Shepherd? A. Yes, sir.
q. How long have you been there?
A. About five years.
q. Did you know Seline Clewett?
A. Yes, sir.
q. Do you remember the time ah
broke the glass door and went away?
A. Yes, sir.
q. Are you one of the girls that
was with her. went out after her?
A. Yes, sir. I was.
q. Now can you proceed to tell as
what you know of the matter and
how you came to go out after her?
A. Well, Sunday night Mother St
Zephrlne called me and told me that
Seline Clewett was going to break;
tbe window, was going to run away,
and she told me to stay with her. The
mother was going to stay first and
then Mrs. O'Donnell told her she bet
ter not stay. So mother kept me. And
so I staid home from mass and we
went down at the further end of th
cloister on the mother's Bide. And
Seline Clewett came down stairs; and
then she went past this door. Sh
went into tbe cloister and I went aft
er her. 1 followed her up. I don't
know for sure If she beard us, but she
kind of looked back as if she heard a
noise. Then she went out I don't
know where she got the brick. And
as she went she broke the window.
And just as we heard the crash moth
er said "don't let her break that win
dow," so when we ran she was out.
And she had already cut her hand
by the window. The mother said
something about clothes, and then w
ran. , She kind of fell at the end of
the hill and Veronica caught her. Anal
then I went down and caught her and
we caught hold of her arms and w
were walking. We walked quite a lit
tle while when Martin came and I
beckoned for Martin to come and take
me that I waa tired of walking; se
Martin came along and he talked
we talked very kindly to her all the
way down. And then I says "Well
Loretta come on back and ask the
mother to go out." She says "I won't
go back again."
CROSS-EXAMINATION.
By Mr. Butts.
q. Were you In your stocking feet?
A. Yes, sir, I was.
q. Was Josle Anderson in her
stocking feet? A. Yes, sir.
q. Why were you in your stock
ing feet? A. So she wouldn't hear
us come through the cloister.
q. When you were following her?
A. Yes.
q. Who told you to go that way?
A. Well, I don't think anybody told
us. Just a notion I took that morn
ing for fear she would hear us.
q. How did Josle Anderson take
that notion? A. Well, I don't know.
A. Josle was up at one end and
you were up at the other end? A.
Yes, sir, Josle was at the laundry de
partment. q. The door was left open? A.
Yes, sir.
q. So that she could be there? A.
Yes.
q. Who else was there? A. That
1b all Mother and I and Josle.
q. The Mother was behind yoa?
A. The Mother was with me.
q. Now when she broke the win
dow you chased after her? A. Tea,
sir, I did.
Q. When Seline was going down
the hill do you remember whether
she fell or not? A. I don't exactly
know If she fell down, but I know she
kind of tripped.
q. Then she got up and ran again?
A. Yes, sir.
q. How far did she run before you
caught her? A. Well, Josle caught
her first.
q. Where did you catch her? A.
It might have been the next street
but am not positive.
q. When Josle caught her, where
did she take hold of her? A. By the
arm.
q. And when you came up where
did you take hold of her? A. By the
other arm.
q. You held her pretty tight did
you? A. Oh no, I don't think so.
q. Now what did she do when she
got to the milk wagon? A. She
jumped on, and she took the whip
out of the man's hand and she went
to strike us, and she says I will not
go back there.
q. She flourished the whip though?
A. She struck It toward us, she would
have hit us if we went near; she said
she wouldn't go back as many as four
times.
q. Did she do anything with the
beads? A. She threw the office book
away at the foot of the hill, and furth
er on she threw the beads and said,
"To h 11 with the Rosary, I'll never
pray on that again."
q. And kept on running? A. Yes
sir.
q. What did you say to the milk
man? A. I told him not to take her,
she had no reason for running away,
and that I would have him arrested
he did.
q. What did Seline do? A. She
wanted to start the horse.
