THE AMERICAN KoUisM t IViuifln kviwI-oU- mailer tfOMN O. THOMPSON. - l'tt W C, k M.I.I V. Him- lURKKer. AMERICAN FUEL1SE1M CQIPMT, Ut l ltKi IBIS llrJMiwl, Omaha, Vlrat. THK AMI HU'AS ofHrKH. I1S ftiwl, Ouiah N-t Hmi w, : Mlu Mrt hu Mti, K.h,i A. K4 lt liJ.Uiti Mil thi 111. NwUc. From ami after March 1"), I "'", agent will have no authority to receipt In our Dame for money collected on tmbscrlp tion. All retvlpt will he sent 'rum thl office. If 511 nl 10 1,01,1 u lv" sponsible, hi; uro to retain the official receipt AMKIilOAX Pl'M.ISHISH CO. IlVKRAH for Cairo! lean. Sue went A mer it Is said that the jhhs pioiMwe to Issue another bull Inviting heretic to jolo tlu Catholic churchfor their dollar. YE Gotw! Chrl Manioc ami Adam Wolf have fallen on each other' necks and made up. What oilier evidence do you want than thin that Home own Wolf? Chicago's new mayor has made splendid selection w far. If there ha been anything hut a patriotic American apiHilnU'd, wo have not seen him. I.et us hope that our broom will always bo new. , AN admirer of Henry George has loft him $20 000 with which to push his tdnglo tax Idea, If omo rich friend will leave a patriotic editor a like Hiuount to show up the Intrigue of Homo, we shall continue to believe the Lord I on our side. TliK Jier Own says If the Democrat goeouth for a presidential candidate, Hoko Smith would be a good man, and add that he l "considerable of a man for a Democrat." The Democrat should not be misled. There are a good many patriots still living 'in this country. Thkkk should be no longer any ques tion In the mind of American citizen, after reading the utterance of Arch bishop Langevln, of Canada, a to who hold supremo authority over and de mand primary allegiance from the Roman Catholic It is the Homan Catholic church. There I no gain saying that In the face of hi recent utterances. The hili r Drtan say the contest for mayor of Kockford was au antl-A. P. A. fight, that politic did not enter Into the fight, and that the defeat of HutcV in would moan the death of tho order. Hutchln wa defeated by fifty five votes. So we suppose the A. P. A. will lay right down and d,e in Hook ford. My! what a victory that was for tho anti-A. P. A. crowd! They had every paper published In Kockford with them, every Homan Cat hoi to, every man who favored running the town wide open, tho Chicago papers the dallies all favored their side, and their candidate was the agetn of the great est corporation In the city the Illinois Central Railwayso It' a wonder ttiey won at all. C. C. Hitter, who camo to this country in 1S04, and who secured a position through the Influence of I. Wilkes Booth, has given out the state ment that the assassin, Booth, who shot Abraham Lincoln, was not killed by Boston Corbett, but that he escaped to South America through hi and other friends' help. He claim that the man killed was Ed. Fuchs, an actor who re sembled Booth. If Hitter' story i not purely Imaginary, he should be stretch ing hemp at sun-up tomorro mornirg. It may be a scheme of the Homan church to have some one impersonate Booth, write a letter exonerating the Jesuits, and acknowledge all the blame. It would be like her. Just think of It! Rosewater Is go ing to make U9 ashamed to look our family in the face. Wouldn't that be awful! What a power that piece of a man called Rosewater is! Why, be impeached Judge Scott, he got his brother at the head of the board of public works, he defeated the fire and police bill in hi mind. Poor old Rosey! But don't let these reverses prey on your mind, Hosey. You're man enough to whip the A. P. A. yet, even if part of your anatomy Is not in this country. But say, Rosey, what are you? Are you a Jew or a Bohemian? We were talking with some Protestant Bohemians one day and referred to you as one of their people, an I, bless jour life, Hosey! we thought they were going to do u bodily harm before we xuld apologize. A few days later a prominent Jew came into our office and began to berate and abuse you. We remonstrated, and called his attention to the fact that you were a brother Jew that the Bohemians had said so and people who were in the office thought v that Jew had gone crazy because of his yiolent denunciation of you. So, Rosey, what are you? Don't be backward what are you, an apostate Jew or a Homan Bohemian? STUNG HIM TO THE QUiCK. The M-lf ctMifcau d llhelvr and jail bird whodocn bulnc at Seventeenth and Vnara under the alleged wm ie plum of K. HivewaU r wh- real came U 14 t be Konaer ha, after four year of alienee, acknowlcdtf.Hj throitga th column f hi detestable and untruthful heel that there a paHr !nt maha called TliE AMEHICA S. Our reference to a charge which had been made that he bad bn a rebel f) fctung hlsn to the quick, and he hastened U aure hi few reader that he wa adjudged not guilty of the charge. The edlt.tr of this paper doe not doubt but what year ago lUse-waU-r was able to find a court which would clear hira of any charge, but ho must remember that ho is now only governor of Nebraska and Mayor of the city of Omaha. Uu U not the judiciary also. The editor of thl pa(er doe not have a defietive memory. lie did not deny that V.. Rosewater had been ad Judged not guilty of being a rebel spy, but he did neit remeiuinsr that tbi said Rosewater had proved the falsity of the charge. There have boon numerous Instance of miscarriages of justice, and while this may not be one of them.there is a well defined opinion abroad in this city '-hat a man an a rebel spy In lxty three would bo more honorable than a man who would deliberately attempt to Insult the American flag In ninety-five. Prikst Lemhkht in closing an ad dress which he delivered to the Homan Catholic in thl city said: "The Cath olic church I the best friend of the constitution. Put the papal decree with the constitution and we can rule tho world." Just exactly what the A. P, A. propose to prevent your doing. We have alway said that was the In tention of your church, but this lathe first time wo have seen a Romanist houest enough to admit it. Our read ers will find the canon law of the Ro man church based on the papal de creeson the sixth page of this paper. Head them, and ask yourself whether you would like to have them "put with the constitution?" Then read the de claration made by Archbishop Lange- van of Canada: 'The hierarchy of tho "Catholic church ha spoken, and all those who do not follow the hierarchy are not Catholic. When the hierarchy has spoken there Is no use for any Catholic to say the contrary, for If he does he is no loncer a Catholic Such a man may carry the titlo, but I declare thl a an archbishop. I say and say it with plain authority a Catholic who 000 not follow the hierarchy on the school question 1 no more a Catholic And who will be the one to entitle such a one to the nameof Catholic? Where is tho society or government which will give him the right to call him a Catho lic, when I, in my authority a a Catho lic bishop, declare that such a man ha no right to the name? Let us repeat: the Catholic hierarchy ha not the slightest desire to govern the country, a ha been freely and falsely charged, for we are bount by the law and will submit to the law, a every one else must. 'In God we trust.' This Is our motto. We will stand by the constitu tion of the country, but we will have no godless schools." THE governor of Nebraska has ap pointed Capt. Barry, a ba '-tie-scarred veteran, as the head of the state militia. While Capt. Barry I a Romanist, an empty sleeve and a face covered with scars attest his fialty to our flag. If we were as bigoted as our enemies give us credit with bolng, we should critcise the governor severely for placing the military forces of the state in charge of a Romanist, but we are one who be lieves no hot or, no emoluments 0? office, can ever compensate the men who took up arms in defense of this Union, and that they deserve all they get, and should Capt. Barry, after proving his loyalty once, forget his duty to his country, the blow to Romanism would be greater than ono can estimate. For that reason we are willing to trust the militia In Barry' hands. He knows that the citizens of this state will watch his every act, and that one move which would Indicate that his allegiance wa primarily to the pope would forever dishonor that sleeve and those scars, and bow down hi gray head in shame. For some time Mr. Callaham em ployed Friend Trumbell in his restaur ant at Grand Island, but recently let him out for the reason that he was a member of the A. P. A. Trumbell's discharge.it is said, was encompassed by Foley, the saloonkeeper, and Servls, a policeman, who is a sympathizer with Rome. They were heard to say that they would drive all of Callahan' trade away from him and afterwards tell him it was because he employed an A. P. A The next day Trumbell was sick and laid off. When he got well enough to go to work Mr. Callahan had no further use for him. Our friends who have been eating at Callahan's ehould not hesitate to be as bigoted as the Ro mans. There are restaurants run by Protectants. What is sauca for the goose should be sauce for the gander Archbishop Langevan, the head of the Roman Catholic church in Mani Ltoba ha declared that all adherents of the church who do not obey the teach ings of the hierarchy regarding sep arate schools will not hereafter be r& garded as Catholics in other words they will be "excommunicated." This will, no doubt, widen the breach in the church' political force since several prominent Catholics of the province have recently taken a very decided UnJ agtloot the church. Thl fight a looked upon by Protectant generally with a gnat deal of interest. One thing tjenii certain that unles the gov ercmcnt recede from It present por tion there I likely to occur surco ri out complication at the coming May meeting of the provim ial council, and thl attempt of the archbishop to whip the patriotic Catholic Into supporting the church in opmiilon to their own opinion can only add fuel to the flame. TliK Kansas City Star give an ac count of an A. P A. meeting, In which it says: "The song and recitations, as well a the speeches, were patriotic, but through moot o" them there wa a vein of prejudice which frequently hinted that a man cannot be a good American with being an A. P. A." The jK'ople who read the half column account of the meeting published by the Sfr would never accuse the man who wrote it with being prejudiced. Oh, no; they would just ay ho wai a Humanist probably one of those liberal minded fellow who chase such men a Slattery, McNamara and White through the uvete of our leading cltlia, crying for their life' blood, and abridging a constitutional guarantee ho right of free s(Kech. Ho! Fur a Ihiily American. Minneapolis, Minn. April II Ed itor American, Ojnaha, Neb. The fol lowing apearcd in Chicago Inter-iJrean last week: "Mayor Colloin, the editor of the Stamford, the new Boston daily, Is the author of 'Marching through Georgia.' He wa an officer In General Sherman' army, and lost a leg in bat tle." The Standard i a Protestant dally and was built up from a weekly pat riotic paper, which called for subssrip- tions for share etc. Tho A. P. A., Jr. O. U. A. M. and other order came to tho front in grand style. Patriotic meeting were hold and a a result Bos ton ha a Protestant daily. This dally started out with a subscription list of 110,00(1 names exceeded by only two out of six daily papers. Now, why cannot The American become a dally? Nebraska I full of Protestant and Is one of the banner A. P. A. states. Now, boys get to work make a dally out of your woekly pat riotic American paper. If in Rome-rum-ruled Boston Americans can start and support a daily paper surely Prot estant Omaha can. Who will be the first to subscribe for stock? Let us start dally. Let us raise $1."0,000 for the purpose. Let us start with 10,000 shares of $15,00 each share to be paid for when 1100,000 has been subscribed. How many will you want? E. E. T. Itomo at Work. Chicago, 111., March, 17, 1805. Ed itor American: Am very sorry that we have been delayed In getting the new and enlarged editton of tho Black Pop3. Weare miking It so much larger than at II rst anticipated. Little Benj v mine (Neale) the Canadian patriot adds ten pages on the biography of the au thor,and from Supreme President Tray- nor's pen we have reprinted thirty page from the Patriotic American on the aims, principles and object of the A. P. A. It Is called an expose but it is of the right kind as you will admit. Then just a the book was ready for tho press sora enemy spoiled a large number of the plates by a blow from a hammer or other such Instrument. You may recall that the first edition was burned while in the bindery after a year delay by the breaking of plate and the work wa paid for In advance. It is no easy task to get such a book printed. I hve had the ir oney in the bank to pay for the new edition for mon h. Have also add ed since forty new cartoons the best romvour excellent paper and others, it will be all the better lor the waiting. I would like It if you would give the rea sons for the delay as Mr. lveiiey sug cest. Will be out in two week. 1 ours in r . 1 . sl r O. E. Murray Heard Rev. Brown. Coon Rapids, la., April 17, 1805. Editor The American: On last Tuesday evening, the 16th inst., we had our first public meeting in behalf of true American principles. Rev. H. B. Brown, of Vista, Neb., delivered a lecture on "Romanism and the Public Schools" to a good audience, in the opera house. The people manifested a lively interest in mis suojoci, giving close attention to the last- A package of Americans was distributed among the people, which were gladly taken, the only trouble being there was not enough to go around. Mr. Brown Is to speak ajrain tonight on the suDject ot Romanism as a Political fower." 1 am very truly, ONE OF OUR BUBSCKIUEKS. Married. OLIVER GOERNE At the residence of the bride s parents, No. 400 Cum ing street, Mr. Clarence Oliver and Mins Catharine Goerne. Thursdav evening April 18, 1895, Rev. Clen- deniog officiating. Mr. Oliver is a journeyman printer employed at Festner Printing Company who has a host of friends, while Miss Goerne is the daughter of our old and esteemed friend, K. F. Goerne, the blacksmith doing business at Twenty- louria ana VUming. vv 1111 lueir omer friend we wish them ban voyage. Cheap Rates to Points on the Elkhorn April 2:ird. One fare plus $2 00 for round trip. Minimum selling rate $7.00. Limit 20 days. Stop over on west bound trip. Ticket Office: 1401 Farnam street. Depot: 15th and Webster streets. ADDRESSES THE30UTH Supremo President VV. J. H Traynor Sends Out an Open Letter. II CuuUiiiH a Plain Mateiueiit tf fact a Thrj txM l'uhti. ally-The True Interckl uf I he Nouth. To the People of the Southern Slates: The conditions prevailing in your sec tion, o far a they relate to the pur pose of the American Protective Aiesociatlcn, are such a to Inspire the hope that our order may find there a permanent and impregnable strong hold. The pioneer of a country leave their stamp upon it; and hence the land of Washington, Jefferson and Jackon, imbued with tho principles of Protest antism through tiie teaching of it early statesmen, is today the most thoroughly Protestant jKirtlon of Chris t' ndom. In four of the southern states less than 1 per cent, of the male popu lation above 21 year of age belong to the church of Home. In North Caro lina the proportion of Roman Catholic voter to non-Roman Catholic voter Is only two-tenth of 1 percent; in Arkan sas, five-tenth of 1 jierccnt: in South Carolina, seven-tenths; and in Georgia, nine-tenth. In three other state the per centage ia less than two. to wit: Tennessee, 1.4 per cent; Alabama and Mississippi, 1.5 per cent, each; while Oklahoma ha only 2 2 per cent, and West Virginia only 2.8 per cent, of papist among their vottrs. In three other state the percentage 1 less than seven. These are Florida, 5 8; Texas, li 2, and Kentucky, ti 9. In three other states and the District of Columbia the per centage is very much higher. In Maryland it I 17.3; in Virginia, 18; in the District of Columbia, 20, and in Alabama, 28.II These figures are highly instructive. But it might be more Instructive still to show in tabular form the membership of the Roman church a compared numerically with that of the Protestant ehurchts, leav ing out of account those holding no membership in any religious body. This I have done in the following table. Table showing the per centage of male over 21 years of age In the Dis trict of Columbia and the southern states, who belong to the Roman Cath olic and Protestant churches respect ively: 1'kk Cent STATE. ETO. North Carolina Arkansas Sotit li Carolina (Morula Tennessee Alabama Mlss!s.-.ll)l)l Mi 4 :tr.ti 71.1 5.Y , 44 ,V,.7 ma 32. 41.9 17.1 ;ir 2S.7 48 t!H 24.3 Oklahoma Went Virginia Florida Texas Kentucky. Mary. and Virginia District of Colun hla . Louisiana In the United Suites at large the per ct ntago of Protestant males over zi years of age Is 27.7 and of papist 10.7. The south, therefore, is safely anchored in the Protestant column; and if it were not affect d on account of its federal relations, it lot would be fortunate, in deed. But it prosperity is as much affected by the character of the men sent to congress by the voters of the great cities of New York, Boston, Chic ago, Cincinnati, St. Louis and San Francbco as by that of its own immed iate representatives. Hence it I that the Roman question his become a national issue, and Is more important and far-reaching than any qjestion of tariff or silver. Twenty-six to twenty- eight millions of the inhabitants of this country now live in the large towns and cities. Early in the next century the urban population will comprise fully one-half of the whole, and It Is certain that in the near future the character of the population of our cities will fix the character of the general government, and determine the destiny of the repub lic. The tendency of this potent urban influence, therefore, concerns the wel fare of the whole country, for-there is not a town; a hamlet, or a household in the United States to which it does toot reach In one form of legislation or an other. No citizen, of whatever section, creed or party, can escape it. The pap ists know this, and declare it boldly. Satolli says: "Whatever effect tho papacy comes homes to millions of Catholics, and consequently ia of importance touevery christian nation. Thinking men the world over realize that the so-called 'Roman question' is as fuli of actuality as it is complexity." "The Roman pontiff has not ceased to exert his influence upon secular gov ernments. The pope with centuries of experience to direct him, knows enough of diplomacy to set a proper value alike upon the promises and threats of Interested statesmen. 11, with honor to himself, he can obtain from them concession in favor of the church, well and good. " The concessions desired by the pope are that every government should recognize him a the supreme ruler of the world, both in spiritual and tem poral affairs, rendering tribute to his exchequer and obedience to hi bUhop. Now, obid.cnce 1 involved la the pay ment of tribute, and our congres ha long been paying tribute, not directly to the p.ipe Liiiiself, but indirectly to hi niiet-ionaric and other agent In thl country. To hi niiionarie it give vaet um of money annually under the disguise of appropriation for the education of the IndUnsand for the building and maintenance of so-called charitable institution ia Washington. To other emissaries of the papacy, con grefc, through the political Influence of it members, give lucrathe office under the federal government. Legis lation and patronage are both brought into play in behalf of the papacy in order to conciliate the great ma of papist voter in the cities. And thus a practical union of churcti and ctaie I affected, the tendency of which I to sap the foundation of our Institution. On account of the p.-culiar relations between the ftderal and state govern ment the position of the papacy in reference to education must not be over looked, lest we place every state in our Union in the situation of Monitoba with referei a to the Canadian federa tion. The theory of the papacy on this subject is set forth in the syllabus of lCi, and was fully Indoised by Mgr. Satolli, in hi article on the school system of Home, published in the De cember number of the Sortli Amerkun Review. That theory i that it apper tains exclusively to the ecclesiastical institution (the papacy) to direct the teaching of theological subjects, and further that "the entire direction of public schools, in which the youth of christian states are educated, may and muit appertain to tho ecclesiastical in stitution and belong to it, so far that no other authority must be recognized as having any right to Interfere in the discipline of schools, the arrangement of studies, the taking of degrees, or the choice and approval of teachers." The concession of this principle by the federal government would Injure the south quite as much as any other section of our country, and Satolli is wise to secure thl concession by "diplomacy" that is, by manipulating the balance of power between the polit ical parties. Now, the American Protective Asso ciation wa organized for the purpose of combating in the political sphere the ecclesiastical power which demands such concessions from our statesmen, and which has of late been so success ful in its diplomacy. Our order main tains that the state should oe the supreme power in every nation, com manding what Is right and prohibiting what I wrong without regard to the pretentions of any ecclesiastical Insti tution whatever, whether the head of such institution be located within or beyond the limits of its own territory. It aims at a complete separation of church and state, and to that end it en dorses the following proposition as an amendment to the constitution of the United States: "Neither congress nor any Btate shall pass any law respecting an establish ment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or use the property or credit of the United States, or any money raised by tax at .on, or authorize either to be utd, for the purpose of foui ding, maintaining or aidiDg by ap- propria .ion, payment for services, ex pense or otherwise, any church, relig ious denonination, or religious society, or any Institution, society, or under taking, which is wholly or in part under sectarian or ecclesiastical control." This amendment was prepared by the law committee of th National League for the Protection of American Institutions, and was offered by Mr. Linton, of Michigan, at the last session of congress, but no action was taken by that body In regard to it. It will be offeree again early in the next session. Under its op3ratlon, if it is ever adopted, not only would no one denomination be favored at the expense of the rest, as the papists have lately been favored, but all support of sectarian establish ments would be entirely voluntary, as under the first amendment to the con stitution it was intended to be. In ex pounding the first amendment, Judge Story says that it was under a solemn consciousness of the dangers from eccles iastical ambition, the bigotry of spirit ual pride, and the intolerance of sects, exemplified in our domestic, as well as in foreign annals, that it was deemed advisable to exclude from the national government all power to act upon the subject. The situation! too, of the different states equally proclaimed the policy, as well as the necessity, of such an exclusion. In some of the states Episcopalians constituted the predom inant sect; in others, Prcfcbyterians; in others, Congregationalisms: in others, Quakers, and in others aain there was a close numerical rivalry among con tending sects. It was impossible that there should not arise psjrpetual strife and perpetual jealousy oa the subject of ecclesiastical ascendancy if the na tional government were left free to create a religious establishment. The only security was in extirpating the power. See Story of the Constitution, section 1679. j Another great authority says: "The legislatures have not been Seft at liberty to effect a union of church frnd state, or to establish preference by taw In favor of any one religious denomination or mode of worship. It i nd toleration which I established in our system, but religlou tquality." See Cooiey :' Con stitutional Limitations, chapter XIII., page la view of those propositions, which are undoubtedly a true t-xiutition of the first amendment, it will hardly be doubted that every citizen of this coun try, not himself a papist, would vote for the sixteenth ametdmi nt proposed by Mr. Linton. For the many appro priation to church instl.utions, of which the state and federal record show an alarming growth, demonet.-ate not only that the ecclesiastics are defy ing the constitutioa, but that directly and indirectly they were corrupting the ervan's of the people to further the end of the church. Following evidently the teaching of the papal hierarchy, the ubjectof the po! in thi country segregated In such alarming and political strength in nearly all our large cities that the elec tion of a non-papist is rather an excep tion than the rule, from IK) to 00 per cent, of the public office holder and employes being followers of the Homan pjntiff. This condition of affair, ob taining a it doe throughout the north ern and western portions of the country, cannot by any stretch of logic be at tributed to accident, us many apologists for the system would have u believe; nor can it be excused upon the ground of a superior fitness, for the fact is notorious that the most illiterate of gcvernment employes, both in state and nation, are subjects of the papacy, and that those large cities where the papists hold the reins of government are the most corrupt. No one can doubt, therefore, that a radical reforma tion is necessary. The gate of the republic have been permitted to remain open long after indiscriminate immigra tion ha become a political crime, and the reformation Inaugurated by our order has been aimed, not at the subjects of the Homan pontiff a individuals, but at a certain system which threatened the democratic institutions of the coun trya system by which the politician are enabled to use alien ignorance and illiteracy for their personabends. To effect our purpose In this respect a bill for the restriction of immigration, also introduced by Mr. Linton, Jof Mich igan, at the last session ot congress, has been indorsed by the patriotic orders of the country. Incidently, this bill, if enacted into law, would benefit the laboring men of the country far more effectually than any tariff scheme, high or low. And it Is therefore to be hoped that every working man will join with ua in demanding its passage. The same bill contains provision re specting naturalization which will elevate the standard of the elective franchise, and tend mightily to secure the desired purity and freedom of elec tions. As a further safeguard to the purity of elections, every member of our order is pledged to deal justly by his lellow-man, and to uphold 'the con stitution and laws of the country to the utmost of his ability to maintain the freedom of consclenca, thej freedom of tpeech, the freedom of the' press, and every legal right of the citizen in the exercise of tho functions oNcitizenship, to be intensely active in the discharge of his political duties In or out of party lines, because all problem confronting our people will be best solved by a con scientious discharge of the duties of citizenship by every individual. We believe that the decalogue and the golden rule have a place inj politics; and we reprobate, condemn and anath ematize the jesuitical doctrine-.that the end justifies the means the doctrine which underlies all election frauds, as well as all subsidies to sectarian insti tutions, and all other legislation which is not general in its character, or which favors any one class of people or any one si ction of the country to the detri ment of any other. We maintain the proposition ithat of all the rights of man, the right of the ignorant to receive instruction is the most indispensable, because It is through knowledge alone " that any other right can be preserved. Wash ington himself realized thisgreattruth and hence, as far back as 1705," he de clared that the time had already come when a plan of universal -education ought to be adopted in the United States as the only safeguard of"1 our sys tem of government. But education in order to be universal must be free. In private or sectarian schools' the few who are destined to form an aristocracy are educated, but the people have no lot or part in such institutions. In them the wealthy are trained jto be legislators and professionall.men, and the most docile among the-' common people are trained to be priests, teachers or missionaries, thereby de veloping In the state an oligarchy for the administration of all public func tions an oligarchy which invariably degenerates into political and eccles iastical despotism. To maintain a system of universal education, therefore, Is one of the pur poses of our order. In our opinion the non-sectarian free public school is the essential basis ot such a system, the bulwalk of American institutions and the best means of educating American children. And while we respect and earnestly maintain the constitutional guaranty of perfect liberty in matters of religion, yetwe hold this religious liberty to be guaranteed to the indi vidual, and not to mean that'under it