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VOLUME XXVIII.
(EiV 4 . V ALLIANCE, BOX BUTTE COUNTY, NEBRASKA, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1921.
No. 93
EXPLAINS THE
QUARANTINE
' REGULATIONS
THE v 2 SR
Forecast for Nev . Unsettled
and colder tonight vs n east por
tion Wednesday. Generally fair colder
extreme east portion. Strong north
west wind this afternoon, diminishing
tonight.
CITY MANAGER KEMMISII COM
PILES LATE RULES.
Makes It riain that Where Patients
Are Confined in Pest House the
City Doesn't Pay Bills.
City Manager Kemmish has compil
ed a summary of the rules of the state
fcoard of health applying to communi
cable diseases, as well as information
concerning reports of such diseases.
cjuarantine regulations, cases requiring
fumigation and the use of the pest
tiouse. His statement has been sub
mitted to Dr. I. H. Dillon, chief of the
state bureau of health, and approved.
There has been some misunderstand
ing on the part of not onlv the tmblie.
but some of the physicians, concerning
some of these matters, and Mr. Kem
mish has taken care to include all of
the important regulations. The com
pilation is right up-to-the-minute,
, some of the regulations quoted having
mot yet been distributed to physicians
over the state. The new regulations
are now being printed and will not be
available for general distribution for
two weeks. . .
' The chief effect of these regulations
vrilr-be the saving of a considerable
expense to the city Jn connection with
-the operation of the pest house. In
the oast patients have been sent to
the pest house on the order of their
physicians, and in practically all of
these cases the city has paid tne bin
This practice has been used to such an
extent that a physician or two has
comnlained because the pest house was
not fitted with all the conveniences of
liome. In a recent case, thecity paid
for the installation of a telephone,
electric liehts. city employes carried
water to the building and furnished
coal, and there was some complaint
because the grocery bill was not paid.
"The patient was not even a resident of
Alliance.
Under the new order of things, pa
tients mav use the pest house in the
event they do not wish to have their
homes Quarantined, but it win be en
tirelr at their own expense. The city
is responsible only for the cost of en
' forcing quarantine, for placarding and
for fumigation, but is not responsible
for time lost or for the support of pa
tients under ouaran tine. Should the
board of health of Alliance see fit to
isolate a patient in the pest house, it
. tnav do so bv special order, ana in sucn
cases, and such cases only, will the city
bear the expense. In all other cases
. patients who elect to use the pest
liuose will be expected to pay their
City Manager Kemmish's statement
follows:
City Manager- Statement.
Tn nrrter to clear un misunderstand'
inga pertaining to the requirements of
the state board of health regarding
quarantine, etc., .in. connection with
communicable diseases, commonly
called contagious diseases, we herewith
print an extract which has been ap
proved by the state board of health,
stating the more important parts of
the rules and regulations that have
been established governing such cases.
Notice should be taken that the
head of the family is primarily re
sponsible in seeing that communicable
diseases are reported to the secretary
f the board of health. . If they fail
to do so they are subject to the fol
lowing fine. Whenever a doctor is
called in, . however, he then be
comes responsible.. Enrb w1
person or officer who shall fail, neg
lect or refuse to enforce these rules
and regulations shall upon conviction'
for each and every such onense be
subject to a fine of not les3 than $15
or more than $100. '
(Continued on Page 8.) ,
lADOLPH BRQST
DIES DURING
AN OPERATION
a pleasant vein. He complimented Al
liance from many angles, and had
some good words for the local T. P. A.
post. Insurance is no longer the most
important activity of the organization,
he declared. Instead, it is doing more
for its members along the lines of
regulating railroads, mails, hotels, etc
The T. P. A. was organized thirty-
three years aeo. and now numbers a
hundred thousand members. The west
is rallying to the T. P. A. standard,
Mr. O'Neill declared, and pointed to
the two hundred members in Alliance
as an instance of the way the member
ship is being built up in the western
states.
State Preaident Earl O. Eager con
gratulated Post M .as being among
the lives wires or the state. He de
clared that he had heard more good
things about the 1915 state convention.
which was held in Alliance, than of
any other similar gathering.
National Director N. Stanley Brown,
in one of the cleverest talks of the
evening, mentioned the fact that Ne
braska rankit third among the states
of the union in T. P. A. activities.
Rev. Stephen J. Epler, chaplain of
the local post, spoke on the ideals of
the T. F. A. He emphasized the fact
that in this organization, there is fel
lowship not only for the members, but
for others. J. W. Guthrie spoke on
the benefits of being a member of the
organization, and extended a rousing
welcome to the visitors.' Brief talks
were also made by F. A. Bald, L, C.
Thomas, N .A. Kemmish and Jack
Hawes.
ALLIANCE MAN PASSED AWAY
SATURDAY MORNING.
Inquest Held Monday Afternoon
Determine Cause of Death
Services at Armory. ,
RAIL WORKER
INJURED WHEN
HIT BY ENGINE
PETER PAPPOS, COOK, NOW
ALLIANCE HOSPITAL.
IN
Stepped in Front of Engine on Easi
Local at Ellsworth Monday
" 'Morning ' '
T.P. A. Scores Success
in the Third Annual
Wild Duck Dinn
or
Post M, T. P. A. of Alliance scored
another huge success in its third an
nual wild duck dinner, which was held
at the armory Saturday evening. Over
ne hundred were in attendance, witn
'William O'Neill of Denver, the na
tional president; N. Stanley Brown of
Omaha, national director and chairman
of the national membership committee
and Earl O. Eager of Lincoln, presi
dent of the state organization, as
guests of honor. An Alliance man,.
Jack Hawes, is first vice president of
-the state organization and in line for
"presidency. The dinner was served at
T p. nu, and following the banquet,
-nnrmtr was enioyed by the guests.
.. Mayor R- M. Hampton made the
opening after-dinner talk. He made a
.m)r of complimentary remarks
concerning the T. P. A characterizing
them as leaders among the social and
civic bodies of Alliance. The mem
bers are always ready, he said, to
vi An thine for Alliance, and he
referred to their activities on the re
cent festival day. "Alliance is proud
of the T. P. A-'s." said Mayor Hamp
ton, "without them we would be as
n.t a Ant inch."
National President O'Neill spoke in
Peter Poppas, cook for extra gang
No. 4, track workers, laying steel at
Ellsworth, was quite! y badly injured
in the Ellsworth yards Monday morn
ing about 10 o clock .
An extra west was passing and al
though hearing the westward freight
he did not notice the local which was
pulling up the passing track in front
of the extra gang's outfit car as he
crossed the track he was struck by the
pilot of the .local's engine, receiving
serious injuries about the back which
have partially paralyzed him. The in
jured man was brought to Alliance on
passenger train No. 43 for medical at
tention and his condition is quite ser
ious. He was taken to St. Joseph!
hospital.
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The crew on the local, A. t.. Nelson
and Conductor Jas Daily, as well as
Fireman U. E. Carlson, were not at
fault, the case being entirley acci
dental as neither of the concerning
parties was visible to the other and the
affair happened all too quickly for the
air brakes to be applied, and thus ab
solutely no fault is placed on any of
the crew, the trouble being mainiy
that the unfortunate man did not ad
here to the "safety first motto of
stop, look and listen," before stepping
onto or crossing a railroad track.
Chief of State Health
Bureau Endorses Plan
for the Septic Tank
Dr. I. H. Dillon, chief of the state
bureau of health, was in Alliance last
Friday, and while here made an in
spection of the septic tank in company
with City Manager Kemmish and
other city officials. Mr. Dillon en
dorsed proposed changes, already un
der way, m the construction of the
city's chief pest.
The suggestions made by ur. un
ion were already being carried into
effect In the purification of sewage,
anerobic bacteria are necessary to
liuuify organic solids. The number of
these bacteria depends unpon the dis
tance they are away from the support
In surface. In order to increase the
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supporting suriace. a numoer 01 oai
walla are beinsr added. Work
commenced a week or ten days ago,
and will be completed within the next
two weeks.
to
BURLINGTON
IS PREPARED
FOR A STRIKE
Interesting Meeting.. TURNS DOWN
Members Monday Noon
The Monday noon luncheon of the
Alliance chamber of commerce was
, I The secretary reported that -he had
wiriiniTwii f vt xi c irn Air be1 m communication with the sugar
WALKOUT WILL NOT TIE UP ALL 1(w.tory at ScotUlibluff, to secure seed
I OF THE TRAINS. for RUgar beets for a ten-acro tract.
- O. K. Dye has promised to plant them,
Offliral. Hold Conference to Conalder nd if successful, this may be the
" . . i a i : a l.
Adolph W. Brost. thirty-eteht years
and three months of age, an Alliance
plasterer, died at St. Joseph s hospital
Saturday morning during an operation
for removal of tonsils, which was per
formed by Drs. G. J. Hand and 1. J,
Baskin. According to the reports nade
to County Attorney Basye, Mr. Biost
died suddenly, about ten minutes ai'tr
Dr. Baskin had started administering
the anaesthetic, and when the opera
tion was about half completed. The
right tonsil had been removed by Dr.
Hand, when the patient ceased to
breathe. -
The cause of death has not been
definitely established. The anaesthetics
used were first ether and then chloro
form, when the ether did not produce
satisfactory 'results. In certain cases
death has resulted from use of anaes
thetics. Sister Constantia of the hos
pital was present during the operation.
At the request of relatives, uounty
Attorney Basye held an inquest at the
Darling undertaking parlors Mondny
afternoon. An autopsy was performed
by Drs. J. P. Weyrens, Minor Morris,
H. A. Copsey and Dr. liennett. lhe
physicians will not be ready to an
nounce their findings for several days.
Funeral services were held at the
armory at 8 p. m. Monday, in charge
of Rev. A. J. Kearns of the First Pres
byterian church. There was a large
attendance of members of the Alli
ance fire department, of which Mr.
Brost had long been a member. J ne
remains were taken to Peoria, 111.,
Monday night, for interment, accom
panied by his wife and daughter,
What Will Be Done If an
Emergency Arises.
"In the event of a strike on the Bur-
means of introducing another profit
able crop in box uutto county.
A report was made us to progress
in building the Broadwater-Alliance
road. Thia is a part of the G-P-C
lington railroad on November 8, there highway and the Broadwater en, al
will be but one department of the rail
road left," said General Manager Wil-
INVITATION TO
JOIN LEAGUE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS NOT
PARTICULARLY INTERESTED!.
liam F. Thieoff of the lines west in , road, are going ahead.
Appeal of the Baseball Promoters U
Sterling Falls on Deaf Ears
Some Fans Interested.
Members of the Alliance chamber t
commerce, at the Monday luncheon at
though their route is Mhedulod to be, the club's rooms over the Brennaa
built after the Bridgeport-Alliance ( drug store, did not look with favor oa.
Lincoln Friday morning in an inter
view published in the State Journal.
"That department will be the operat
ing department, a machine designed to
move mail, express and to give limited
passenger service aa soon as possible.
That much we believe we can give
on the day of the strike. A freight
service planned to move food and fuel
to consumer will follow at once, the
one aim of the road in this possible
emergency being to serve the people
and to prevent suffering. We believe
we can do that much.
"In other words, from the start, the
ordys will be to move all trains pos
sible." Mr. Thieoff was in Lincoln to attend
a conference of general and division
officers held daring the day in the of
fice of General Superintendent E.
Flynn. Officers from the four divisions
comprising the Nebraska district were
present. Mr. Thieoff said the threat
ened emergency was considered and
plans made to give service from the
start -as much service as possible. No
detailed plans were announced but it is
known that each division officer
took to his home office orders affecting
the conduct of all men remaining in
the service after the strike takes
place.
It is understood that conferences of
general officers have ben held in Chi
cago and that further conferences re-
have a proposal from two leadinir ritiiiu
They
Mr. Brost was in partnership in the , lating to strike emergency manage-
plastering business with L. I. Glarum
of this city, and the two men held ad
jacent homesteads near aioorecrott,
Wyo., where their families are living.
Mr. Glarum left for Moorecroft Sun
day morning and accompanied Mrs.
Brost and daughter to Alliance.
Friends say that Mr. Brost had been
ment will be held between now and the
third of the next month.
Says Record Misstated.
"The public should know," said Mr.
Thiehoff, "that Warren S. Stone of the
eneiheers misstates the record when
he sivs that the strike has been called
EtiflPntr frnm a thrnnt affection for as a means of preventing a runner cut
years, the general impression being in wages. The strike vote was taken
tht come timo airo a blood vessel : and its results known to the officers of
Kmi hnrct in hu throat ThosA who the organizations when the presidents
worked with him say that at times he ! of the road, in a meeting considering
was unable to work when t was nec- me possiuiiuy ot reuucinS irciKn
esary for him to lean over. rates, considered the matter or a lur-
Mr. BrOSt Came tO Alliance in mer rwiucuun in wagca aa a men. ib w
March, 1910, and has since been en- that end. The strike vote was taken
gaged in the plastering business here, as a protest against the labor board s
He has been prominently identified reduction of wages effective in July
with the Alliance volunteer fire depart- and the records of the organizations
seventeen miles out of Alliance. Broad
water merchants are donating gos
oline, but tractors, and men ara fur
nished by their county commissioners.
J. P. Mann reported lhat a bund
could be organized in Alliance und
sixteen summer conceits urion at a
cost estimated at from $1,800 to $2,-
000. The proposal was referred to a
committee of which J. W. Guthrie is
chairman.
There was also some discusr.ion of
road problems, including the i-ecuring
of some $54,000 of federal aid for Box
Butte county before it lapses to the
state. Two commissioners had a eek
ago agreed on applying for these funds
and placing them on roada in the
county, but it is understood that this
arrangement is up in the air. An ef
fort will be made to bring about some
harmonious solution of the problem, if
possible.
Wanted: Home for' orphan child.
Address 386, Hemlngford, Neb. 95-96
alliaWwins
from sidney
SC0RE83T0 6
VISITORS HAD LITTLE CHANCE
WITH GRIDIRON FOES.
Cheyenne, County Football a Players
Out of Luck Till Third Quarter
Play Crawford Friday.
ment and was one of the most faithful
membera in attendance. He has made
a wide circle of friends, who are sor
rowing over his untimely death.
He leaves a wife and daughter.
Dorothy, aged fourteen; a father and
mother, Mr. and Mrs. Ed Brost of
Peoria, III.; three sisters, Mrs. Hans
Jaeger and Mrs. Otto Straub, both
living northeast of Alliance, and Mrs.
Tumlin of Peoria. An uncle, Adolph
Brost, lives in the Fairview neighborhood.
of Sterling, Col., that Alliance get into
uno lur a uuseoau league mat win e
formed from some twelve or fiftee
cities lying within a radius of 20Q
mile3 from the city of Sterling. Th
Alliance men were interested in th
proposition, but the estimated expens
of from $1,800 to $2,600 a moaUk
rather put a damper on the discussion.
The concensus of opinion was that th
club wasn't in financial shape t
sponsor the project, and that it was
more or less doubtful whether th
money could be rained here at , this
time.
Following the meeting, some of th
men are understood to have had a
change of heart, and that thera may
be at attempt to frame some sort of a
plan by which Alliance can be included
in the proposed league. The prospect '
Is a pleasant one for the dyed-in-the-wool
baseball fans, and it may be that
there will be enough enthusiasm to put
it across.
The past seAson was a most suc
cessful one for the Sterling baseball
team, and the Sterling men who am
behind the plan to form a league mad .
a strong argument. Their letter to
Mrs. Lloyd C. Thomas, secretary of
the Alliance chamber of commerce,
follows:
Dissatisfied With Outlaw.
"A number of the citizens of this
city having become dissatisfied with.
Independent outlaw baseball, whera
the players are outlaws and seek to
hold up the fans and supporters ot
baseball because they demand prices
for their services so high that to run a
ball team for the average town of thia
size is too great a -burden; we, there
fore, are writing you to put u itt
touch with any or all parties in your
city that would be interested in back
ing organized baseball. In thia way .
we are assured of a good class of bail
class C, hot to exceed $z,fbO per
month, or D, not to exceed $1,800 per
month and have the assurance that
all clubs will have the same salary .
Alliance won from the Sidney high
school at Alliance last Friday with
the score, 83 to 3, being a fair com
mentary, upon the game. Last year
Sidney twice defeated Alliance, by jimit i tm9 way there can be no ad-
Legion Auxiliary to
Be Organized at Parish
House Wednesday Night
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3 'ference during the day and received
wrM wr r invited Tto be p?e4nt at ' PreHniinary instructions concerning
rnSeK ?K I the conduct l-tei
bear out this statement.
"The railroads and the employes
are equally bound by the decisions of
the labor board. The railroads are
bound by the rate making orders of
the interstate commerce commission
but the. employes have no concern in
this matter so long as they get their
wages. They care not where the money
comes from, while the railroad mana
gers must make enough money under
rates fixed by one body to pay wages
fixed by another.
"We can't say there will or will not
be a strike. We are preparing for
an emergency that threatens. We are
going to give the public the best serv
ice possible should such an emergency
visit us. The entire organization of
the Burlington railroad will be blended
into one department to give that service."
About forty men attended the con
scores of 40 to 7 and 14 to 13, but the .-,ara nf rm town over another aa
tables are in a fair way to be turned Jn Midwest League which has Jtts
up until tne Alliance tnsasier, omney ci0Bed its first season.
"lo tne towns oi uiu sue, met i
the EDiscooal parish house at 8 o'clock
Wednesday evening of this week, at
which time- a permanent legion auxil
iary organization will be perfected.
At a meeting held some weeks ago,
a temporary organization was formed,
Mrs. Andrew Dodge being eieciea
chairman. An application for a char
ter was made, and the charter has arrived.
All women who are eligible to mem
bership in the legion auxiliary are
urged to be present at the meeting
Wednesday evening. At tnis ume mo
charter will be signed, and this will
be the only opportunity to become
charter members of the Alliance auxil
iary. The charter will be sent in to
headquarters for acceptance immedi
ately after the meeting.
General Chairman of
Burlington Carmen to
Address Shop Craft
J. D. Dillon, of Galesburg, I1L, gen
eral chairman of the carmen for the
Burl in don railroad, arrived in Alli
ance this morning, and will address a
meeting of the members of the fed
erated hop craft at Reddish hall this
evening, from 7 to 8 p. m. A large
attendance is desired.
Funeral Services for
Mrs. II. H. Thompson
to Be Held Wednesday
Mrs. Frances Geo Thompson, who
lived in Sheridan county, about twen-tv-five
miles north of Lakeside, died
Monday morninsr, October 24. The
body was brought to the Darling mor
tuary and the funeral will be held
from the Darling chapel Wednesday
afternoon at two o'clock, with Rev. A.
J. Kearns in charge. Mrs. Thompson
was born at Olney, 111., January Zo,
1883, and was married several years
ago to Hurlbert Hale Thompson. She
is survived by her husband and three
daughters, Juanita, Dorothy and Gertrude.
the service should the strike actually
be called. They came from the Lin
coln, Omaha, Wymore and McCook
divisions of the road.
Plans for Lines West.
So far Burlington officials on lines
west have held no meetings to organ
ize for conducting transportation in
the event of a strike, although it is not
improbable that one will be held in
the near future, at which plans will be
made for action should the strike ma
terialize. sAvs the State Journal.
Those who have a chance to Know
that officials of the road are not wor
ried about the strike outlook, believ-
inir that trouble will be obviated in
some way before October 30.
It has been intimated lhat tne or
ionization formed by the road when
a strike seemed certain iieveral years
ago can be quickly revived end that
planning for a big strike is not a mai
ter of mucn worn anyway.
Organist From Denver
Movie Palace Accepts
Place at the Imperial
Io K. Kindig of Denver is the new
organist for the Imperial theater,
Mr. Kindig comes to Alliance from
the Isis theater, and Ms recommenaa
tions show that he is not only a master
of his type of musical instrument, but
h featured in concert work for four
teen months. He takes the place of
Miss Mae Erazim of Grand Island
and gave his opening performance
Monday. , .
had 'three victories and one tie this
season. Alliance will play Crawford
at Crawford Friday of this week, and
meet Bayard, strong contenders for
last year's championship, the week fol
lowing. Crawford is xpected to be
easy meat, having been defeated by
Bayard, 30 to 7, recently.
Summary of Friday' game: '
The Lineup.
Alliance Sidney
Beal re - Campbell
Purdy rt . D reiser
Nolan r? Chambers
Brown . c '. Jolleffi
Herman la: L Flo
Fowler It S Clark
Brennan le S. Flo
J oder - .qb I Clark
Garvin n Davis
Dailey lit Jlaworth
Cross ib Kepler
Substitutes: Miskimen for Nolan,
Nolan for Fowler, Joder for Cross,
Cross for-Garvin, Bicknell for Bren
nan, Gavin for Beal, Kilgore for Miskimen.
Officials: G. O. Emick, Minatare,
referee; Pearson, umpire, Sidney; J.
Vance, head linesman, Alliance; and
Phelps, timekeeper, Alliance.
Score by yuarters:
Alliance 21 27 14 2183
Sidney 0 0 6 06
Touchdowns: Alliance, Joder, 5;
Garvin, 4; Dailey, 2; Purdy, 1. Sid
ney, Flo, 1. Yards from scrimmage:
Alliance. 780: Sidney 10'J. Goals from
touchdowns, Garvin, 11. Fasses: Alli
ance, 4 out of 9 for 105 yards, aver
age, 24 yards. Sidney, 4 out oi i& ior
75 yards, average, 19 yards. Punts:
Alliance, 7 for 310 yards, average
yards; Sidney, 14 for 480 yards, aver
age, 34 yard.s Penalties: Sidney, 6
yards; Alliance, 10 yards.
f irst ijuanrr.
Clark kicked off 20 yards to Cross.
No return. Dailey makes 5 yard3
around right end. Garvin makes 30
on a fake. Dailey makes 2 off tackle.
Dailev makes 10 through line. Garvin
mikoi h throuc-n line, joues sroes o
vards to touchdown. Garvin kicks
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crnoi. Krnre. Alliance i. oiuney u,
Cross kick on u yarcis w ivepier
uhn returns 15. Sidney is unable to
gain and Clark kicks 30 yards out of
bounds, un end runs ana nne uui m
mainly by Dailey the ball is brought to
the 15 yard line where Garvin runs 15
yards off tackle to touchdown . Garvin
lri-U crnal. Score 14-0.
rm kicks off 45 yards to Davis
who returns 20. Alliance takes ball on
down when Garvin attempts a drop-
kick which is blocekd. Sidney recov
ers and Garvin intercepts a pass run
nintr CO varda to a touchdown. Gar-
i vin kicks goal. Score 21-0.
no other sport or amusement that will .
E lease so many, it nanaiea ngnt, aa
aseball and besides there is a feat
ure of advertising in it that will pay
any town to get behind. . For Instance,
see the amount oi auvemsing uin
Sterling has had in the past two year
owing to its baseball team and wo be
lieve that with a class of ball that aft
(Continued on Page 8.) .
Harvey Benjamin
Shot Through Arm
When Gun Discharged
Harvey Benjamin of Spade, Neb.,
was brought to Alliance at midnight
Monday and taken to St. Joseph ho
pital, suffering with a gunshot wound
in the left arm. Mr. Benjamin waa.
returning in an automobile from a
hunting trip, and his gun was on tha
floor of the car leaning up against
him. The gun was accidentally dis
charged, teuring a hole through lui
arm. The accident took place about 4
p. m., and he had no medical attention
for over eight hours. At the hospital
this noon it was said he U restuii;
easily, with good prospects hat hi
arm may oe isaveu uuetwuu uvn
not develop. Benjamin is an oversea
veteran of the world war.
"Bud" Schaf er Gets Part
of Charge of Buckshot
in a Hunting Accident
rernra Schaf er of the Schaf e
a ., finnnlv comDanv of this city.
while on a hunting trip last Sunday
afternoon with his father-in-law, Jim
Keeler, of this city, managea 10 t
the path of a shell loaded with No.
shot nrea oy nis romwun.
about a hundred yards distant at th
.: a. cv,nt mi ftrtL Two of tna
Hiiro " ... .. .--
small shot lodged m me doc w
left hand, another one went through;
his right trouser leg ana gmiou m
as it passed, and a third went through.
his cap. Aside from tnis, ne wm un
injured and seems disposed to make
light of the accident
"It didn't amount to anything, ha
told a Herald reporter. "If you wan
some real news, you might mention,
n. .v m nut tViA fear of tha
me iotv iu " f-- - -kAM9ftor
intA thu heart of a too
friendly dog that went along with ua
on the trip, and managed every tim
to scare the game away before w
had a chance to take a shot at it.