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About Omaha daily bee. (Omaha [Neb.]) 187?-1922 | View Entire Issue (Oct. 14, 1897)
Omaha , Oct 11 , in ? . To be beautified by the great ruccess of our popular dress goods department. Good goods at reasonable prices have the cause of this grand success , Agents for Me Call's Paper Patterns. A STRANGE to buy nil wool ChalHos KID Ono of llio busy departments TIAIK but wo received n beiui- (1LOVES In our Htoro Is our Kid Glove tlfnl asHortiiioiit of thorn dupni'tinont Why ? Hounuso ycstcnlny. Slrnii Li to any wo Imvu ninny w carry two of the hc.sl HIIOH In the customers waiting to sco thi'in. They intU'kot. Tlio KCiiiiliiUjKostor nd the mnku Hiii-li handsome hou.se clasp glove , which { jive nnlver- Wo nro showing a hand- Jlllil.TONS Bomo ufi.sortmcnt of these dcdlrublo fabrics ft ! Inches wide ntSl.oO. NOVELTY Such un- DHKSS bounded GOODS fnltho Imvo we in our novelties Unit wo Buy bring them back and irut your inono.y if ihoy nro not exactly as wo renro- sent them. Further wo know that when wo do not trlvo moro- torious yoodrt at more- toriotirt p cos then our ' power to britiK you hero to buy census There is more merit - . In our novelty dress goods this year than ever before and we have an extraordi nary largo line too. Prices rre-2i'/4c-20. lOc SO ; COc beau- tlos-S3c-t.OO-St.2r -$1.50. HAIR We believe this to be the near- DOMH est correction of any slclrt stif fening yet introduced. Tlio goods arc thoroughly sin-unison , so that you need not have any hesitancy or fear of there being any change wlmtovpr from coining In contact with daintiness or moisture. Another good feature la no sizing whatever - , ever is used consequently It will re tain Its prefent elasticity until the B.ir- inent In which It Is used Is worn out. PRETTY CAPKS Liidies are always NEW JACKETS interested in some thing new in the way of a winter wrap. Every express brings us Un > now novelties a.s we .soil hundreds of garments every week it en ables us to show every day new htyles and exclusive novelties only shown here. Today me show n plain tailor made c.ipo In extra line kersey all sill : lined with plaited back and fu.-Uootis round the shoulder If we wcro to put th's garment in our show window .vIMi a ereat blif ll..fO mark on it you would think It cheap price Is only flOOtf. H < bite and proposed to do the labor for ? 2,100. It Is not material what It would cost us to do the other work. Ho proposed to do the whole thing for ? 2,100. including the piling. That was for the labor alone , without ma terial. We had then bought about $3,000 worth of lumber , and I am ready nnd pre- ixircd to riiow that no more than $ : t,000 worth of lumber was used , and that If we had lot thUf contract at $2,100 and bought our own materials wo would lave saved not less than $1,000. And it Is further true and can bo substantiated that the work la not done , that portion of It that relates to the file driving la wretchedly done , that we have been cheated on the plies they have been putting in , and In that regard the work Is very In ferior to what the original plan contemplated as submitted to the contractors. And I want , In substantiation of this charge , to submit here a letter fllgned by Mr. Thomas Shaw. I will read It to the board. ( Letter 'Is road. ) I did not read this report until two days ago , elnce I preferred the charges , but I had a personal Interview with this gentleman and from personal talk I had reached the con clusions that I embodied In these charges. Since I had the charges preferred I took the trouble to ascertain as near as possible ex actly how much lumber has been used In that lagoon , and nloo to ascertain as near as I could the value of that lumber. I had a report In the first place of every stick that is In that lake , so that wo would know what they were , and they are hero described. I submitted the measurements first to Mr. - Baker , our superintendent , who Is a flrst- claH mechanic , and hero is his statement. I submitted It also to the IJullard Lumber company , and there la thclr's , and they agrco to a foot. The only mistake , Mr. Maker made was In figuring sixteen here , instead of 100. nut these figures as shown hero are correct , representing this lumber. Mr. Dullard says this : ( Heads. ) So there was about 200,000 foot. lie says the above bill of lumber any dealer In Omaha would have been glad to fill from August 1 to August 15 on the basis of $15,60 per 1,000 , f. o. b. earn Omaha. The came white plno would have cost at least $3 , and possibly $1 , per 1,000 more , as those sizes In wlilto plno reach from $1.150 to $2 moro than the sixteen Inch , Nearly two- thirds of the bill Is composed of those two Items. Aupust 13 , tlio day on whlrh the con tract was let. the regular retail price for yellow plno , dimension , was only $13.20 per 1,000 , delivered In town In small bills , and the regular price of 3x12 delivered In small quan tified was only $ lfi per 1,000 feet , I submit this letter to the board. SOME KIGUUKS PRESENTED. Taking- different summary from what I have presented there and It Is not material to the main point as regards the care that has been exercised to protect the Interests of the exposition ; it is not very material whether the first estimate Is exactly In ac cord with this estimate showing about the state of affairs. I wanted to estimate It , knowing ju t what lumber has been used , what wo could have done this \\oik for If wo had Mono It ourselves with our own lum ber at the reduced price , or at a higher Weak , Tired , Nervous Llvornnd Kldnoy Troubles and Pal pitation of the Heart Appetite Poor and Could Not Sloop. " 1'or nearly 10 ycnra I have been tvoutletl with my liver and kidneys and palpitation of the heart , nnd waa under tlio doctor's euro most of the tlmo. I could not llo on my left aide. My appe tite waa poor and I could not Bleep. In January the ( jr'P ' confined mo to the house. I was very low and WPS attended by the very beat physicians I could got. It accrued as though nothing would help me. In March I began taking nood's Bareaparllla. In less than a week I could got a good night's sleep. I con tinued taking Hood's Bareaparllla and I am now nblo to llo on my loft side which I bad. not beep able to do ( or years. My appetite is good and I have gained in flesh and strength. " Mns. NICHOLAS MAAB , Independence , Iowa. Remember Hood's Sarsaparilla Is the HcstIn fact the One True lUood I'url- Oer. All druggists. Jt , six for S3. Oct Hood's. " ' . . - , , , , are purely vegetable , re- S PlIlS Uablo and beneficial , iac. Hill satisfaction. AH the new fall fancy shades ns well an s'tnpla colors. Grey suede gloves with fancy stitching , Gluce gloves In the new opera colors. Kid gloves nt Jl.CO-l.SO-$1.75-aml- per imlr. Ladles' Scotch mixed ynrn bicycle gloves , Just the thing for these cool mornings Me per nulr. CORSHTS AND Knbo Corset , MUSLIN UNDBRWKAR extra long a n (1 short wilst ut ? 1.00 each. W. 1 $ . clastic cutaway hip in black , ruy or wlilto sateen nt $1.00 each. Children's muslin drawers Mulshed with hem uml tucks nt Sc lOc 12',4c loc nnd ISc ciich , according1 to Kl/.e. Children' ; ! drawers better quality muslin trimmed with embroidery edging and tildes at 25c and 33c per p.nlr. Ladles' white nprons made of line lawn extra wide finished > \\lth liemstttch- Intr at 50c each. CHIL DREN'S WINTER BON NETS Have you nuido youi1 bclcctii ns yut in tlio now Bon nets ? If n o t , it would bo well to do so early , as the choicest nra belli ; : picked out. Poke Bonnets colored silk bonnets- cream silk bonnets croum and colored silk crochet caps. Angor.i caps In white or grey. Stockinet caps silk skull caps. Caps ranging In price from Me to eacX Do not fall to see them. price , and also what It actually has cost. I put tlio summary In this form : Kst. 200,000 ft. yellow pine at $13 $2.000 Labor , according to Connelly's bid. . . . 2,10u Total .TTroO If the lumber was bought at $13.50 , add ? 100 ; $14 , add another $100. The difference In favor of Crcedon & Mahoney , the ex position furnishing the lumber at $1,1 a 1,000. would have been $1,236.50 ; furnish ing It at $13..r,0 , $1.13C..r.O ; at $14 a 1.000 the difference would have been $1,030.50. That 13 substantially the basis and I want now to call upon the secretary to substantiate the figures as regards the contract. I do not suppose Mr. Geraldlno will deny that the contract of Crcedon & Mahoncy was $5,930.50. If he dees not deny It , then there Is no need of controversy on that point , and every cent of that amount has been paid , although they have not completed their work. Kountze What Is the amount ? nostwater $3,936.50. If that be true , and It Is not denied , then we know what wo have paid. Wo also know what the board was to have paid for that lumber. And now I want Mr. Geraldlne to answer this question : Did Mr. Connolley have an opportunity to use the yellow plno turned over to Creedon & Mahoney ? Was that opportunity offered him ? Geraldln.e . Am I supposed to answer this man's questions ? Kountzs I presume It would be right. Geraldinc It was not. llosewater Was any other contractor offered that opportunity ? Goraldlne No. llosewater Then that part of It Is sub stantiated. It shows , as I have alleged , that there was partiality In favor of Crcedon & Mahouey as against all the other bidders , and that the bid as made by Crecdon & Mahoney was practically a preferred bid. Kountzo In regard to this contract to Creedon & Mahoney , was that let by the board ; did the board approve It ? llosewater The board approved It , but the board had no knowledge that Creedon & Ma honey were given the special preference. We were notlflcd that the contract had been let and closexl ; that this lumber had been turned over to thorn.'o did not know , cither , what concession they made for It. What conces sion did Crcedon & Mahoney make on the lumber which they received through this ex position ? Ceral-Ine Whjt concession did they irake ? Hosowater Did they make any reduction from the amount of their original bd ! ? Gcraldlne None whatever. llosewater I have nothing further to say as rcgaids this particular part. I will now piocccd to the other case. I thln.k the second end charge Is the Daly contract , Is it not ? Wells There Is ono point hero. Sonic- thing Is said here about consent. llosowatcr That matter Is stated exactly and I don't think .Mr. Gcraldlno will deny that the contract contained this provision , that ccircnt shall lie used at the option of the exposition , with the superintendent de ciding whether or not it shall be , Now , no cement has been used there and I don't think anyone will contend that cement.has been used , and I do not suppose I will have to prove that no reduction has been made In the contract. Has theru been any reduc tion ? Gcraldlne There has been no reduction. HKUB TAMM COMBS IN , llosewater Now a to this other matter. I don't suppose there will bo any dispute. The board had a session. I think , on the 27th of August , and In tho. absence of Manager Klikendall the president , who had taken his place temporarily , presented a request from Mr. Gcraldlne to the baard that Mr , Tamm bo employed as an assistant superintendent at a salary of $100 per month. Objection was made to the employment and the matter was laid over without action. I think that Is exactly what happened. Mr , Wattles made the request on behalf of Mr. Geraldlne. ' The request was not granted , but the motion was laid over and no action has been taken slnco that time. On the let of September , when thn board of directors received Its copied of reports , I. among others , received my notice of the names of employes In the various departments and found Mr. Tamm's name on the pay roll of the Department of Ilulldingg and Grounds , under direction of Mr. Geraldlno , credited with titxteen days' work as superintendent of construction , $60. That , of course , as anyone can figure , Is In excess of $100 per month. And It showed that at. the very tlmo when we were asked to employ this man ho had already been em ployed as superintendent , uiuler a title he had no right to , and he has been there since. He has been on the pay roll at $1 a day for September and on Saturday last the board , In order to enable him to draw his pay legally , as lie had never been authorized , wo had to legalize the action so far as his pay is concerned. The point I raise Is that It la the duty of Mr , Geraldln * to make his request In tlmo for employing these men. If It was a proper subject for the board to act upou , having filled to receive the atuctlon of the board , ho should have left the board the responsibility of anything that might happen by reason of that failure , nnd not to force upon us on the pay roll a man whoso employment was not authorized , I don't think that requires any great amount of talk. talk.Kountze I would like to know what Mr , Gcraldlne's authority Is for the employment of men In the absence of any action being taken on the subject by the board ! whether ha Is only allowed to employ men or assist ants with the consent of the board ; whether ho has any discretion at all of his own that ho could exercise , Klrkendall It li not Intended that ho shall use any discretion , The rules arc that he can simply suggest or recommend. WattleI will call your attention , Mr. Klrkcndall , to a general rule that was adopted. Kountzo Do I understand that Mr. Gcr- nlillne had any authority ? Wakelleld There was authority given In March for some work. Mr. Klrkcndall stated it was necessary to put up a shop to keep the tools In and so on , and ho was author ized to secure the material nnd employ the necessary labor to make the temporary bullJ- Ing. Wattles Under what authority have all these men been employed'since that time ? Wakcfleld They have not had authority. Wattles Then do I understand that you have been flaying these salaries without any authority whatever ? Wakellcld We have been paying the wages on the pay roll of the manager of the department. OTHERS MADE nEl'ORTS. Uosowater One thing Is clear. There had to b3 Rome latitude given to Mr. Gcraldlne. Wo could not expect him to report every laborer he employed to the board. Under ordinary circumstances , In the case of a laborer , where a man Is employed and maybe bo laid oft In few days , I suppose there would be no action , but Inasmuch as ho asked this board to give Its consent to the employment of Mr. Tamm , then lie should have rested. You cannot do both things. You can't cat your pie and have It at the aame time. That Is rot such a very serious mat ter , except that it does Involve financial con siderations In the long run. It Involves dis cipline , too. In this way the board has no authority. It might just as well abrogate Its power to Its superintendents and men on the pay roll and let them do just about as they please. In every case I have had any thing to do with I have had to report every thing and have It approved by the board , even to n messenger boy. Kountze I was trying to ascertain just what authority had been given Mr. Ger aldlne for the employment of persons , or whether it took the action , of the executive committee to employ anyone , unless it was an ordinary laborer. Klrkendall We cns'dered at the time that the action of the board was necessary , al though there have been several times when something was coming up when they granted mo the authority to go ahead and do what vas necessary to finish up the work. Kounlre Then after the application , was made tor the approval of the boaid for Mr. Taram's emplojment , was the board cog nizant of the fact that Mr. Tamm was still retained" Wattles-Yes , I think so. Kountze And was it with their silent con sent , or knowledge , that ho was retained ? Wattles I know the matter was men tioned several times , that he was on the pay roll anyhow. Kount7c And the board knew It ? Wattles I think every member of the board heaid It. Rosewater The first knowledge we had of It was when that pay roll that the secretary eenda monthly to every member of the Hoard of Directors reached us. Kountzc--Mr. Tamm was employed by Mr. Gcraldlno and a report made , and a request that ho be continued In employment ? Hcsewater That was not the way. The request was that wo should authorize him to employ Mr. Tamm. We did not know he was on the pay roll , but after we had de clined to act upon It the report reached us , three or four days later , that , he had already been on the pay roll for twelve days before that request was made. That is the point. Of couise In the absence of Mr. Klrkendall ami the way things wore running the matter was allowed to rest , as everything has been allowed to rest. There has been some talk about It , but It was not the right way to do business. We do not contend that Mr. Tnmm was not earning his money. I don't know anything about that. NEVGIl EARNED TIIE MONEY. Now as to Mr. Daley. I won't dwell any length of time on him having $5 a day first. It simply shows that It was paying a man recklessly more than what was the standard for the same kind of work , as paid by the city. He never earned $5 a day from the city In his life. But here was the fact. Plans and specifications were supposed to be diawn In the ofllce of Mr. Geraldinc , for the sower. Bids were advertised for and the bids were opened. On opening the bids we found that Mr. Daley was $1.18 below Henry Sharp , the next lowest bidder. In view of the fact that Mr. Daley had been an em ploye , or at least was known to have been on the pay roll , objection was raised that a man on the pay roll s > hould bid for a con tract. This objection was sustained by the board and the contract was awarded to Mr. Sharp. Two days later a meeting of the board was called and we were notified that there was a mistake ; that Mr. Daley was no longer on the pay roll and had not been for some week or ten days and , as he was the lowest bidder , ho was entitled to the contrc.-t. Thereupon the matter was recon sidered and the contract was awarded to him to Mr. Diley. Mr. Sharp was in the ante room I' ' don't know but In this room when the proposition was before the board , and after we had received It he was notified that he had no contract. He had been notified first , or had supposed from the announce ment , that he had been awarded the con tract. On the way down I Inquired of Mr. Sharp how It could be that he could be within $1.48 on a contract of $809.ir : ; how \ ' could be within S1.48 of another bidder. And I asked him what plans and specifications lid had had. Ho said , 'There are no specifi cations. ' I was very much surprised.Hut I die' ' not kinow much about It and supposed when the contract came for our ratification tlut the plans and specifications would be with the contract In some form. Hut no contract was over submitted to this board , nor any bond , and at the end of some weeks a couple of weeks we discovered that Mr. Daley had finished his Job and drawn his piy. I then wemt to the secretary and asked whether or not there had been such a con tract and bend filed , and found there had not but after the work had been completed a letter written by Mr. Gecaldlne lo Mr. Daley , saying that his bid was accepted , and with the city specifications for c.ewor work pinned thereto , were filed with the secretary. It Is not material to go through , tliosu specifications , Hut I want to show I ycu how contractors are treated hero. I saw- Mr. Sharp this .evening Juat before I cam , down. He came Into my office accidentally and I asked him about this , and I will read you what he sa > s , ( Reads. ) Illd Mr. Daley Inspect a sewer that was built by the expedition on the exposition grounds ? Was that the work he In spected ? Gcraldlno Ho was formerly the superin tendent. GERALDINE DODGES ISSUE. Rosowatcr Now Is It not true , Mr , Ger- aldlno , that on Thursday of this last week Mr , Daley was asked to find the Y for a con nection with a plpo In the sewer which ho had superintended , and that he could not find It ; that yards and yards of dirt were raked up and nothing could bo done ; that the engineers on Friday spent the whole day In trying to find this place , although they had their maps showing where It should be found , and that on Saturday morning they broke Into the sewer to make that connec tion ? Answer yes or no , Gcraldlne-- ! never heard anything of the kind. kind.Ro Ro cwator You can Inquire Into It then , and I will prove It by your engineer. I want to say now , though , that he did not commu nicate this , because bo knows nothing about this , and I don't want him to rest under that suspicion. I know that spies are kept out there on the grounds and I know that our reporters cannot go through the grounds without being followed , Now , taking up the next case , This refers to the erection of a planing mill In very clean proximity , I am told within about eighty feet , of one of the main buildings. Wo had been Informed by Mr , Geraldlne months and inoiHha before that the erection of that mill waa In contemplation and that bo had been negotiating with the party to have It erected In that neighborhood , where , I did not know. I take , however , that he kept himself Informed tnat he ehould have boon notlfic.1 at or.co , If he illil not see It , himself , when'fthKjim.nail for thjt mill was . driven. It sciifiMthaf with reasonable vlg- llnnco if any notice hail been served upon the board wo could have ROHO to the city au thorities and had that mill stopped ; that Is , either have prevented the Issuance of a per mit for Its construction or have declared the building of silrfi a concern a nuisance and dangerous to the exposition. I bcllcvo that oven now wo have a right nnd can go before - fore tlio council , If iwo want to , nnd cause n flro llm'lt to bd established within two blocks or three blocks nil around that exposition , to bo good until the exposition closes , so that no more Minn ! buildings can bo put up surrounding time 'exposition , nut this Is not a pirt of my .co ntfalnt. That should have been prevented ami. wo ought to have been notlflcd by Mr. Gerdldltle , who la supposed to bo at the grounds every day , that the plan- Ing mill was to bo built' by those parties 'In that neighborhood , GEHAliDINE'S STATEMENT. As to the last charge , In order to save the tlmo of this body anil not to pester It with looking over maps nnd specifications , I will withdraw It. There have been alterations made. but. It Is not a Tnatcrlal matter. WellsTherc Is ono t > ont ! hero that seems to 1mvo been passed over. It Is regarding this changing of ground plan. Hoscwatcr Yes , that Is what I Just re ferred to and I will let that go , at least for the present. Gcraldlr.e How would you lllto to have me deal with this matter ? Kountzc Wo gave Mr. Hoscwator full scope to make his own statement and I thluk you would bo entitled to the same. Goraldlnc On the evening of October 2 I received from tlio sec'etnry n cooy of the charges made by Mr. llosowater and on that evening I dictated A reply to the executive committee , as I understood that my answer to the charges was to be heard by the execu tive committee. Since that tlmo tlio matter has been changed. What I dictated then la here. In carbon copies , anil whllu going over this matter verbally In detail I would be pleased to hand you each a copy. Tlio first statement hero is that the plans and specifications were prepared by Mr. Shaw. Mr. Shaw was employed on this work fcr n few days. Ho made the drawings under mv direction and prepared a rough sketch of the specifications , which I revised , ns I also made some changes in the drawings. It is stated hero that the bids on those plans and snsclficatlons were opened by me with no blildor present. The bids were opened In the otnco of the Department of Grounds nnd Buildings In the presence of Mr. Klrkcndall , the chief clerk , and others. After opening thrso bids and finding them too high , as stated In this reply , I stilted to Mr. Kirken- dall that the work should be done sean , that tro were behind on It then , having been de- laved In the matter unexpectedly , and that the lumber Tor the sheet v'l'lns ' would lake some tlmo to procure and get the quality and the condition It required. At the tlmo df advertising for the bids , on or abaut July 15 , J also asked seve ul local lumbermen , to make us n figure on the lumber for sheet 'pil ing and the propositions I received are hereto attached. On the day the bids were oponi'd and found to be too high I explained to Mr. Klrkendall that the work of the a'.icet piling should be dcno as soon as pifslblo and , as theio was project cf further delay In letting the contract , suggested that we order the sheet piling for the reason that I wished to have It specially selected , and all this would require considerable time. It was better , therefore , to order the lumber at once and ifVH afterwards lot the work by contract to turn the orddr ove'r to the contractor niul have the order' that 'far under way. Mr. Klrkendall told mo jto go ahead with such anangemeiit ana ho would bring the matter before the exposition ) Immediately , which lie did and received then authority to- the pur chase. It is stated by Mr. Uoscwater and confirmed. I think , by Mr. Klrkendall , that tiie lumber was1 purchased before any au thority was given. "There was a meeting of the executive cpmmlttcp on the evening of the day on which the biJs were opened and Mr. Klrkendall went ( from my olllce direct to tl'at meeting. fThc lumber was o'dered at that time verbally with the understanding ( hat unless Lonflrrf'ed ' by Mr. Klrkendall from the executive cofnrnitfee thst It was not to ap ply. Prior to this" time all question of using white plue has m apqearpd from our calcula tions for .the1 following reasons : In examina tion of. tlio stockjlni-tho Omaha lumber yards , otn. ( reading from written statement. ) It has been state'd here that the difference between white pine and yellow pine wcs about $1. Hero nrc two proposals which I received at that time from the lumbermen. I had proposals from nearly all , if not nil , of them. I am unable to find them ; I supposed they were on the flic , but I find these only and I would like to have the committee look at these. "WHITE AND YELLOW PINE. Dldwell I notice that white plno Is quoted lower than the plain , yellow pine and that yellow plno dressed and tongucd and grooved is quoted lower than white pine. Gcraldine The reason for that Is th's : Yellow plno Is shipped from the south , a long distance , and the matter of freight cuts a very high figure In the price of the lumber. If It can be ordered In time so that they can dress It , It removes that much freight and they arc enabled to deliver It at a lower price. I might refer to that at this point to settle this question of the difference Incest cost of lumber. The No. 1 white pine In three- Inch planks which I found in the yards of Omahp and which I conferred with lumber men about In not as good quality as the yel low pino. It has morp knots and defects and It Is admitted from the northern classifica tion , where it Is not admitted by the south ern. The only possible preference there could bo for white pine Is Its durability In this climate. Yellow pine Is much stronger and the element of strength Is to be consid ered in this work. For that reason I wanted a plank that would dress fully three Inches. In ordering this lumber from the Cady Lum ber company , their wholesale dealers , a coal and coke company of Kansas City which con trols the larger portion of the lumber supply over the new road from the gulf , was here. I wanted to get a plank that would dress on ono side to three Inches. They agreed to saw this lumber to three and one- quarter Iiichrs , or nearly three and ono-quar- trr InchfH , and dress It to three Inches , which would give the strength and thickness wo required. They also agreed to tongue nnd groove it on the drawing that I submit ted. It Is stated hero by some one that tills tongue was only three-eighths of an Inch ; that statement is untrue. The tongue Is fully one-half Inch , made In V shape and Is a special duslgn particularly siiltablo for this work , In ordering that bill of lumber I took nil these matters Into consideration ; I also j called for No. 1 select lumbrr , the very beat quality , and because of these specifications and the Increased thickness I agreed to pay $1 per 1,000 feet higher than I could have got the common lumber at. It Is stated Hontv- whcro in thrso charges that this lumber that wo furnished is of second quality ; that state ment is absolutely untrue ; I have not In my experience for j'carp handled as flue a lot of lumber as was f.urfLshe.d ] for this purpose by the Cady LuroJer > cpmpany. The lumber Is out there ; auyorui can examine It and It will speak for Itfiflf.T Kountzo I thlnJK , thjro In a charge here that the speclflcadijriir called for white plno , Geraldlne rYes , , , 'Ap | } that In letting the contract preference < J"ji given to yellow plno , which was , according' lo the charge , a lower priced material. Was that corre'ct , that the specifications called for white plno ? ' I1Y ANOVKRSIGHT ; , Geraldlne The spctlflcatlons called for white pine. The blanks for bidding submit ted called for a bid oi ( both yellow and white pine. If you win look over the bids you will notice that ,1a qacd | ) for In all cases. Hy the time the , Itld * were received I had carried the Investigation to that point and the summary of the bills that Is given hero and elsewhere was made entirely upon yel low plno , because at that time the qustlon MEDICAL MEN 'J Unit coffee ns the kidneys , and recommend POSTUM. . , As tlio proper drink tit meals of yellow plno had entirely disappeared , liy nn oversight It wa still loft In the specifica tions and copied. Kountzc Hut nil the contractors had the Information that they might bid cither with jcllow or while plno ? Gcraldlnc Yra. sir , and their bids are there on both kinds. Hosewatcr Are these the bids of the lum ber dealers ? Geraldlne N'o , sir ; the contractors. Hoscwater Am I permitted to ask some questions a * wo go along here ? Kountzc I presume so , so long ass you don't break In. tJcrnldlne Ho has my full consent If he doesn't take too much time. lioscwuter I simply want to know at what date these lumber bids wcro made or asked for ? Geraldlne The time of these bUfl. this 3 el- low plno bid , was the 15th of July , 1 think the Ifith of July. Ilosewntcr Why were these bids not sub mitted to the beard the bids for lumber ? Geralillni' Why were these bids for lum ber not milimltted lo the board ? llecause It was not called for , and there was noth ing to require It. Ilosowater You said that you made a pur chase. At what price did you buy this yel low pine and how many thousand feet did you buy ? Geraldlno The price of yellow plno pur chased was $14.50. llosewater And you thought t that Hmo that that was $1.50 lower than you could buy It at any other place , from any other dealer ? Ocrnldlnc I thought so. Ilcscwator Didn't you know that you could buy lumber at that time a dollar cheaper than $14 ? Gcraldlno Thi-ao bids explain that , llosewater Why did you not report this purchase the quality , quantity and price to thd-board at any time ? Geraldlne Mr. Kountze , 1 think these matters have been fully explained. Tlicro was no call for reporting all this. These bids were taken for Information , not knowIng - Inglibthcr we would be called upon to buy the lumber or not. When the bids were opened and found to be too high I then sug gested that wo purchase the lumber and have these bids as my authority as to where to go for U. The lumber was purchased on the 24th. Ilotcwater Why was not the contract or the order for that lumber Hied with the sec retary for the Information of this board ? Geiuldlne I was never Instructed to file that order. Hosewater And you knew how many thousand feet jou turned over to Creedon & Mahoney ? How many ? HIS MEMOIIY DEFECTIVE. Geraldlne I dori't recollect , llosewater You don't know how much lumber > ou bought ? Gcraldlne I don't know exactly. My memory Is not quite as retentive as thit on all details. Tue lumber that I ordered wiiii somewhere , I tiinlc , about 170,000 feet. Kountze I presume the olllco has a rec ord of the quantity of lumber that was pur chased ? ItcEOuatcr We luve no such record here with the secretary. Have you ever hoaid ! how much was bought there ? Geialdlne There was never any occasion to turn any order over , because the order In a few days was turned over to the con tractor and he assumed It. Tnat Is , the contiactor paid the liunocrmati. Rosenater At what price ? Geialdlne At the price 1 ordered it at $14.50 ? 1 higher than I could buy It at the common size and common quality. This quality was the highest quailty obtainable. It was sawed a quarter of an inch thicker than the ordinary size and tongucd and grooved on a special d&slgn , for which the mill had to make their knives. For these leagons , In order to get the requisite thick ness and quantity , I agreed to pay $1 higher per thousand. Have 1 made that clear ? Kountzc The lumber that was furnished was of a higher grade than the lumber that these bids were put "In on ? Geialdlne Yes , sir. Ilcsewater Didn't you say to Mr. Klrken dall tlut you were saving the exposition from $200 : o $300 on this deal because the lumber was S1.50 cheaper than it could be bought for from any other dealer ? Gcraldlnc Xo. Hcsewater We will let you settle that with Mr. Klrkendall. Bldwell As I understand It , the lumber which you purchased was one-quarter Inch over stock size , so that It would dress down a full three Inches. And this lumber which you bought , was that some which was manu factured for this purpose ? Gcraldlne Specially. Uldwell Wasn't anything you found in stock ? Geraldlne No , sir , It was ordered from the timber. Uldwell I can understand readily how an extra thickness in the lumber < would cost more , Mr. Hcsewater , than stock size. Hosewater Hut we were assured that we were getting a great bargain In buying tbli lumber cheaper than anybody would sell it for , and we were never taken Into the confi dence of Mr. Geraldlno us xto how much he bought , at whH price he bought It or how much ho turned over. Kountze You said about $3,000 ? Geraldlne That is about what it was. That is approximately the amount. Kountze As I understand it the associa tion , as an association , never actually bought this lumber , never pild for 'It ? Goraldlne No , sir. Kountze The contractor simply stepped In and took the contract which you had the option upon ? Goraldlne Which I had already ordered at the time the contract -was made and which was supposed to be under way. Kountze And he stepped In and took It off the association's hands at the same price at which you had contracted for It ? Gcraldlne Yea. Kountzc And which the association would have paid had they taken the lumber ? Gcraldlnne Yes. Welta And you submitted that proposition to turn over this lumber to only one of those bidders' ' ONLY ON'K niDDElt. Geraldlne Yes , sir , only one , because it was not made until the final proposition. I was not foolish enough to tell those con tractors that wo had ordered the lumber and put myself In that position. That ques tion was asked hero some time ago. Now , after these bids were rejected , I was sur prised to find them so high ; supposed It could be done for less. I wantel to place It under contract. I went over the specifica tions anil drawings carefully to see If I could rut out apiy expense hero or there , I con ferred with as good authorities as I could find on that class of Avork and I made some changes. It Is not customary In letting con tracts to reject bids and ask for bids again on exactly the sanw specifications , becauae a contractor Is not expected to alter his bid under such circumstances unless a change is made. It is customary In such cases to call In the lowest bidders. Iiii this case the two lowest bidders were Connolly and Cree don & Mahoney. Connolly was the lowest bidder , having bid $7,800 on the entire job , as you will BPH by his original proposition. There was another bidder , the third , Mr. Raymond. I also called him In. If you p'easo , I will read what I dictated here. ( Heads. ) Now , it has been stated that Mr. Connolly turned In * a proposition to do the work for $7,100. That statement Is absolutely untrue. Hero Is his proposition. Here arc all the propositions ho ever offered. It U stated hero that ho turned In a proposition to do the labor for $2.100 , That Is also untrue. I will read his. proposition. ( Heads proposition. ) I explained to Mr. Connolly th9 changes that we made of changing the connection between the mainstay piles and the anchor piles to Wire rabies Instead of stringers and of sink ing a ditch one foal to bo filled with clay and tamped and drive the sheet piling six inches. Wells Hy what authority did you change those ( specifications ? Goralulne Hy the same authority by which I made them. I was authorized to do that work by Mr. Klrkendall. That la what I am supposed to be hero for. Kountzo All the bidders were aware of the changes In the specifications ? Geraldlne The three lowest bidders. The bids received were : Hamilton Hrothers , $11.512 ; A. A. Raymond. $8.724.38 ; Creedcn & Mahoney , $8,181.10 ; James I' . Connolly , $7,900. Hosowater That la on the first proposition ? Oeraldlno 'Yes. Rosonater He sayn that tills Is faUe , that Connolly bid $7.100 for this work , and that it in false that ho bid $2,100 for thu labor. Isn't It true that In his bid , on tlio face of It , you ray that lie offered to deduct $700 If he were allowed to do what you did allow Mr. Creedon to do ? Geraldlno That is not true , . Hosewater You read It there ? REFUSES TO ANSWER. Geraldlne It U not ( hero. The modifies.- ' I tlon wo proposed for vetting the piling In th , ? I ground wan to iilnk a ditch ono foot and drive I the plllnR six Inches , the Idea being that by driving six Inches we could pel probably ns Rood ft Jolt s by driving a greater depth. 1 nlBo dpclilpil that Instead of shnrppnltiR the piles as shown hero , to shnrpcn them on the sldo so that they would form a wedge on the sides , Uosowater Who nudethesci plans7 Oemldlnc I must nsk , .Mr. Kountzc1 , that this Keiitleir.au be required to sit down nud ualt until 1 get through. Kountto t think Mr. Oewldlne nhould have the right lo make nn expl.inntlon. Ueraldlnc I explained that these pinna wore drlwn by Thomas Shaw , Mr. Connolly stiRKcetcd that In&tcJd of driving at nil , If I would relieve him from dolilK nny driving that ho could put ( he piling In n ditch nnd fill It up so that It would hold water , t didn't think so , nnd told him 1 couldn't con sider It. When he put -In thU bid , "If sheet piling Is allowed to bo set In a trench In stead of bcliiR driven , deduct $700 , " It was on the proposition to do no driving nt nil , which wo could not consider , and I dis tinctly ) told him so. Ho then said he could make no deduction onthat score and his bid stands at $7SOO , and he refused to do It for anything less. I had 'nsked him the same as the others , to submit A proposition for the work , nnd for all the materials nnd the wotk , or for such portion of the muterlals us he could furnish to the best ndvnnt'jRC. Thin was ills proposition. There Is the prop osition I received from Crcedon & Mahoney. ( Heads. ) After receiving tint proposition from Mr. Crcedon , I asked him what price ho had limited on lumber. He said ho had IlKurcd $13.50. 1 nsked him If ho could buy lumbrr of the quality called for. Ho Insisted that he could ; that he could get a good quality at that If he could have tlmo to get It here. 1 then explained to him tint I had ordered the lumber , explained the specifica tions under which It was ordered , the degree of thickness , the better quality nnd the EPC- clal design of the tongue nnd groove , nnd asked If he would be willing to take tlut order oft our hands at that price nnd still do the work at the figure ho bad nude. He said ho wanted t'no to consider Unit , went away , came bcvk , nnd finally said ho would do so. I then reported -this matter to the manager of my department and recom mended that the contract be given to Cree- don & Mahoney at the figures named ( iml under these conditions , ami that the l.lllng bo let as a separate contract or done by ourselves. I explained that the lowest figure I could obliln was 5 cents per foot for driv ing the piling and the other prices men tioned for drlvluR the sheet piling. Mr. Klrkcndall asked mo If 1 could do It for a less llgurc. I told him I thought we could. As a result of the conference 1 recommended that we do the pIlliiR ourselves , the con tract to bo let to Crecdon & Mahoney. It went to the executive coninvltlce. There waa some criticism offered on the specifications. It was on the day that Mr. Klrkcndall left the city , I think. Mr. Hosowater and Mr. Lindsay came to my ollicc to get the speci fications. The criticism was offered , to which I replied and naked for a BURRC-stlon of some thing better , which was never oltered. Liter the buinc proposition was presented to the executive commlttco by the prodident , who. In the absence of Mr. Klrkendall , acted as manager of this department. 1 was called before the committee In regard to the matter - tor , I was asked numerous questions In re gard to It and explained every detail as far us was required. .Mr. Hosenater was present and asked some questions about it ; asked me In regard to the cement mentioned and other questions. I don't remember Just what. Hut I do remember that I explained all th'.s matter , much of which I am explaining now. In my piesenco the executive committee voted unanimously to award the contract to Crecdon & Mahoney , and Instructed the act ing manager to do the rest of the work our selves. 1 Immediately proceeded with It. Kountze < May I ask you The cement was omiUcd in doing the w.rk ? Had the cement been used , would It have added to the coat of doing the work ? Geraldine No , sir. Kountzc The puddling of the trench cost the contractor ns much ES It would have cost him had he used the cement ? GerJldlne Yes , It cost him more. Kountze And the work without the ce ment Is preferable to that with the cement ? WAS SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN. Goraldlne Yes , sir ; I believe It Is. At the time I drew those specifications I was some what uncertain about the matter and thought that possibly the use of a small amount of cement there might aid in some cases. I was fearful of finding decomposed strata of clay or poms material that would not pud dle. In that case H wanted to make a joint Inside the sheet piling through this strata If I found It. There was ono stratum of that material found higher up in the clay which made mo apprehensive of finding more. I might explain that further. Here Is the contract of Crcedon & Mahoney. ( Kcads from contract. ) You will observe I state that the ditch shall not be more than five Inches in width , the Idea bulng that Ihe narrower \\o made the ditch , without dls- ' turblng the clay at the bottom of the ditch , j the better Joint we . could make. This | ditch being five Inches wide , the plank would fill three Inches , leaving only two Inches to be filled. I thought that possibly to nil the balance of that with American cement might be better than undertaking to tamp it. I found on more careful examination of tlio clay that it Is what is called Joint clay ; that is , porous , having perpendicular ports ; that to break those pores it was 'better to do It by puddling it and tamping It. N'ow , you will icadlly understand that if that ditch , two inches wide and only a foot deep , was to bo filled with cement It wiuld only require a small quantity of cement. The cement was never Intended to apply In any place except where I might find decomposed ma terial. The facts are that thlj ditch was dug a foot wide , I found that In going on with the work , testing It , that a better Job could be obtained 'by digging a ditch wider , puddling It and tamping , which was done. Ilidwell Was there any extra cluigo on the part of the contractor for that ? Gcraldir.c Ho was not allowed any. Hidwcll DM he ask any ? Gcraldlne Ho did and it was refused. Hidwell Was It refused before or after ho did the work ? Did he nitko his claim before he did the work. Geraldinc He made it afterward. Is that matter of the cement satisfactorily disposed of ? Kountze I think It is explained In a man- tier that is Intelligently understood by the committee. GeraUInc Are there any questions to be asked about It ? It seems to be made a point In thesa charges. I should be glad to answer them. Kountze I think the question was asked whether the cost cf doing It one way or doing it thn other , which was the cheaper , whether there was any difference In the cost. And I think thi ) answer was that the tamping cost merci than putting in the cement. Is that correct ? Geraldint Yes , sir. The work as done , In digging the ditch wider anil tamping It thor oughly , us was done , Is more expensive than putting In the cement. And the cement was r.uver contemplated except In such places as might bo found porous and might be put In us a safeguard. FIGURING ON THI3 COST. Kountzo I think It might be well perhaps to state to the committee what would have been the probable cost and quantity of cement that would have been required to have done the work If It had been done with content Instead of clay. Gcraldlno Well , the quantity of cement ( Continued on Third Page. ) For Jnfanti and Childreii. IIOTJSI.S , 13th aij Uougldl Mraot. 0 NTItxr/jV L)0\T l > . American | . .in. . & 0 pt r clay up. l-.uiupuuu plan , $1.00 per duy up J. / : . MAllia'.l. .V SOX l'rui > . BACKER HOTEL. 'rillUTKK.YJ'H AM ) .IO.VICS .STIllIiriH. 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