UNIVERSITY OP NEB Viet Nam: War QEC 2 1806 QfUU.S., following is in installment of a series on the Viet Nam war written by Howard Moffett, former editor of the Yale Daily News. Moffett Is a full time correspondent for the Collegiate Press Service and is presently working in Sai gon. SAIGON (CPS) - "I don't give a damn about the Viet namese, we're fighting a war against China. Nobody wor ried about the Alsatians dur ing the battle of Alsace-Lorraine." A prominent Washington columnist made the comment during a recent visit to Viet Nam. To many educated Americans, the striking thing would be its crudity. The striking thing here is that Advisory Proposal Approved By a large majority, the students of the College of Arts and Sciences approved the constitution for the Stu dent Advisory Board. According to Mimi Rose, who represented the ASUN Electoral Commission in the counting of the ballots, the vote was 443 in favor of the constitution and 14 opposed. Six ballots were invalidated because they were marked incorrectly. Mel Schlacter, ASUN Ad visory Board Coordinating chairman, said that he h a d hoped that more students would take part in the voting on the constitution. "I hope that the board is not hindered in any of its future actions because of the lack of voter Interest." There are over 3,500 students enrolled in the college. Within the next several weeks, Schlacter expects the Advisory Board committee to get publicity and information out on the interim advisory board, which will serve until the spring ASUN elections. At that time, a regular board will be elected according to the specifications in the con stitution. Schlacter said that the lack of voter turn out could posi bly be explained by the fact that the students have never seen any results from such a board. "It will be up to the board to create a good image through its actions. Then the students will have something upon which to base their vote." He said that the board could possibly work to change college requirements and add new courses to the cur riculum. "The board will provide for student responsibility and in volvement in educational planning," he explained. The board would consist of a representative from the six area divisions within the col lege, two "holdover" mem bers from the previous year and one ASUN senator from Arts and Sciences. Schlacter has stated that the board will become a part of the "total education" of a student because students will work with faculty and admin istration, coordinating and planning their educational programs. "The board is a means to an end, that of students help ing to plan curriculum," he added, "and the board will be successful only if students show interest and participate." lMIIIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIW First Snowfall Of ''-' - i 'J 4i ' A' 4 ' i I ' t "f - Vt J 1 DA , rt- VV 4 d I ' y ' ' It -H V' ' 'f J WHAT A WAY TO START DECEMBER . . . Lincoln's first big snow fall brought 1.5 inches of snow to the University campus as well as the rest of the city. China many Vietnamese, deploring the sentiment and despising the speaker, would never theless accept it as an ac curate appraisal of what is happening in and to their country. How ever Americans view the war in Viet Nam, many Southeast Asians see it pri marily as a struggle between the U.S. and China for pow er, influence and the vindica tion of ideology. It is the tragic fate of the Vietnamese that they live in a rich and politically strategic border and between areas dominated by these two great powers. "Fuzzy And Far Away" To Americans, the conflict often seems fuzzy and far away. American interests in Southeast Asia are nebulous ly defined. Despite growing malaise, the war in tiny Viet Nam has touched the lives of most Americans only indi rectly. Likewise, no one knows very much about the Chinese, and their role in Southeast Asia is often minimized. Americans, impressed with their own strength and con fused by Chinese counter claims, conclude that the Chi nese must realize they would be foolish to get into a fight with the United States. It seems China and Ameri ca are always shouting at each other, but neither wants to understand what the other is railing about. Americans talk in somber tones of rais ing the price of aggression and buttressing democracy and freedom around the world. A shrill Chinese voice pro tests that the great Ameri can react ionary imperialist, bourgeois power is besieging the revolutionary champion of the oppressed nations, China, and trying to stamp out a popular struggle against colonialism by her ally, the People's Democratic Repub lic of Viet Nam. Outside World "That doesn't correspond to reality," we say thinking of our suburban home, our coun try club and our kids. And, "You don't understand h i s tory," say the Chinese, ob livious to what is happening in the outside world. The issue between the United States and China is confused because we still tend to reduce power strug gles to their military dimen sions; they are more dramat ic that way, and easier to understand. Look at any American commercial news paper and compare the space given to military and politi cal developments in the Viet Nam war. Thus the conflict between China and the US would be much clearer if both sides were actually fighting for a territorial conquest of Viet Nam. But this is ruled out, so a typical line of reasoning goes, by the fact that neither power could afford it Amer ica because of her scruples and China because of her internal problems. So the con flict stays fuzzy. Sophisticated War But to put the issue in these terms is to take it back to the nineteenth century. To day's power struggles, part ly because of the threat of nuclear war, are more indi rect and not nearly so crude. In fact the Viet Nam war is one of the most sophisticated in modern history. China's rhetoric is lost on us, and vice versa. But I think both sides instinctively understand the major ten sions lying beneath the rhe toric. Basically they are pow er and poverty, with all their Cont. On Pg. 7 Col. 5 Friday, December 2, 1966 H ousing Administrator s By Cheryl Tritt Junior Staff Writer Participants in the s t u dent housing forum Thursday agreed that group living can be beneficial for the student, but disagreed whether group living can be beneficial if it is required. Explaining the criteria es tablished for women who are allowed to live off campus, Helen Snyder, Associate Dean of Student Affairs, said that freshmen women are almost never permitted to live off campus. . However, if for health fac tors, "dormitory living would be incompatible with a wom an's life," she is allowed to live off-campus, Miss Snyder said. This permission is chan neled throught the University Health Center. If a woman can't afford board and room and is will ing to work for her board in a Lincoln home, she may re side off-campus. In other cases, women are allowed to live with relatives residing in Lincoln and some times two or three students from the same family are permitted to live together for economic reasons, Miss Sny der added. Russell Brown, assistant to Dean of Student Affairs, said Bill Of Rights With Resents ' ' By John Fryar, Junior Staff Writer The preliminary draft of the ASUN Bill of Rights conflicts in some areas with the Rules and By-Laws of the Board of Regents, according to Dean of Student Affairs G. Robert Ross. Ross added, however, that many of the rights are al ready operative under Univer sity policy. He further as serted that the University does not operate under a system of "in loco parentis," but rather a wider educa tional concept. The Regents enacted the regulations through a Nebras ka statute empowering them to "to enact laws for the gov ernment of the university; to elect a chancellor; to pre scribe the duties of all the professors and officers, and to fix the compensation." Right Conflicts Ross said that a liberal in terpretation of the ASUN "right to choose living envi ronments in accord with rights and responsibilities as a citizen of a free democratic society" is in conflict with Re gents policy. Sections two and three of "Rules Affecting Students" gives the Regents power of requiring students to live in University approved housing and living units. The Dean of Student Affairs may make exceptions. Ross said that even in a "free democratic society" Year I Panel: Students Question because of the shortage of living quarters for male stu dents, rules are not as rigid ly enforced as the women's rules. There remains a strict ad herence to approved housing for freshmen and sophomore men, but because of an in sufficient number of staff members, senior men's off campus housing is not as PROS AND CONS C-J there are principles of regu lation in housing. He pointed out that because of zoning and housing codes of commu nities, "a free choice doesn't exist outside the University." Housing Code The University Health Cen ter proposed a housing code which was adopted in the fall of 1965 by the Regents. Ross said that this code is a ma jor factor in judging Univer sity approval of student hous ing. The Regents "Rules Affect ing Students" also states that "No fraternity, sorority, club, organization of any kind, or group of students associ ated in any way with the Uni versity shall be permitted to build a residence, own, sell, lease, rent, acquire or dispose of real estate without the con sent of the Board of Regnets, or hold its regular meetings at any place not approved by the Board of Regents." This seemingly conflicts with t h e draft's rights of using campus facilities after gaining ASUN approval for the organization. Off-Campus Rules The rough draft states "the right of students to engage freely in off-campus activi ties, exercising their rights and responsibilities as citizens of the community, state and nation, provided they do not claim to be officially repre senting the University of Ne braska." In the Regents' section on "Student Behavior," students "Are expected ... to conduct themselves in accordance with the rules of morality and decency which obtain in well ordered communities and to refrain from behavior injuri ous to the good name of the University." Ross said that the section in the ASUN Bill of Rights could be interpreted "in es sence, that students are not to be responsible for their be havior." The Regents state that "To remain a student or continue as a student or to receive the appropriate degree which a student is working to obtain, the student must at all times meet the behavioral expec tancies that obtain in a weil ordered community." Areas Covered The "Rules Affecting Stu dents" cover areas of "or ganizational houses, res i d e n c e of undergraduate women, residence of under graduate men, student organ izational funds, student be havior, regulations in college and University bulletins, rules governing scholarships and fellowships, rules governing remission of fees, the Alumni Boards for Fraternities and " , - . IMsllS The Daily Nebraskan On D thoroughly checked, Brown said. Bob Samuelson, second vice president of ASUN, said that residence in dormitories should be a matter of "in dividual choice." He added that mandatory on-campus residence for a year or two could be beneficial, but after this time, residence was an individual matter. . of campus living, as seen by Bob Samuelson, Dave Snyder, Dean Helen Snyder and Russell Brown. Draft Conflicts Rules. By-Laws y Sororities and information ob tained from students." While the bill of rights draft states the "right of stu dents to decide the content and amount of his University record . . . that is disclosed to . . . inquirers," the Re gents Rules already state what constitutes a student's record. Modify Differences Ross said that he antici pated the modification of dif ferences in the rough draft and the Regents regulations. He said that from a strategy standpoint, areas of faculty and regents objection should be considered by the ASUN Student Conduct committee before they present a docu ment for student ratification. Ross said that the Regents regulations do not provide for NU Education Called Pimchcard Variety EDITOR'S NOTE: This is the first of a four-part series by Senior Staff Writer Julie Morris concerning the concept of total education and its application on the Uni versity campus. "This is the Nebraska Training School." "We're getting a punchcard education." These statements were made by University upper classmen who were two of many interviewed regarding the quality of the education they feel they have received at the University. The statements made by the students interviewed asd the results of a survey taken by the ASUN Legis lative Liaison Committee show that a large number of students on the campus are dissatisfied with the educa tion they are receiving. Trains, Not Educates Many students agreed with Bob Trotter, a junior in pre-med, who said, "The University is training people, not educating them." LlzAitken, a junior English major and a student senator, characterized many of the courses offered at the University as "punchcard education." "A student's curiosity plays small part in his college curriculum," Dick Schulze, a senior in engineering, said. Schulze, who is chairman of the ASUN Student Conduct Committee, said students play only a "passive role" in their education and are more or less receptacles to have facts poured into. Andi Block, national vice president of the YWCA said, "I feel there are very few challenges offered at 'the University, I've had more education from my ex periences during the summer and with the Y." "As far as my major is concerned it is definitely training," Gaynelle Podoll, a sophomore in medical tech nology said. "The opportunity for individual study should be there, I don't think it is; not in my stage of the game anyway." "I feel the eneral level of education at the Uni versity is declining, Roger Iliff, a senior in civil en gineering, said. Poor Support Students cited various factors they feel have contrib uted to a lack of quality education for them. Some men tioned poor dollar support from the state, others spoke of the quality of teachers and the ''faculty drain." Other font. On l'g. 4, Col. 3 ormitory Using her expericnes in both an apartment a n d a dormitory as a guideline, Jan Kaufman, AWS board mem ber, said that interaction with other university students is difficult for persons living in apartments. She added that a dorm atmosphere is more academic and offers leadership oppor- the policy of "in loco paren tis" at the University. He stressed that this was a legal 'terminology formed by the courts, and that the expecta tions of parents are only one consideration in the formula tion of University policy. Ross termed "disturbing" any argument based on a "need to assert rights" be cause this implies a basis of mistreatment, a situation that he aid he had not not iced. He said tht the Regents are anxious to hear student view points on policy as well as faculty and administration viewpoints. He commended the conduct committee for the "systematic" approach it is taking toward such a bill of rights document. Vol. 90, No. 43 Living t u n i t i e s not available in an apartment. Elaine Kallos, president of Pound Hail, agreed that the dormitories do offer these op portunities, but that there are many women "who want to live off-campus and do not want to have any interaction with other students." Experiences in both apart ment and dormitory living are often necessary for a stu dent to achieve a total educa tion, Tish Voichhoske, a Uni versity student who has lived in both types of residences said. In relation to the Student Bill of Rights "if a student is going to develop he must be responsible for his ac tions," Dick Schulze, chair man of the Student Conduct Committee, said. He added he believes the present housing rules are being administered arbitrar ily. As an example he said that some women who are 21 and have lived in dormi tories are allowed to live off-campus while others in the same position are not. Men who have lived off campus for the first semester are often required to move into on-campus housing in February when dormitory oc cupancy is at a low, Schultze added. Miss Snyder stated that be cause of the continual changes in the registration system, there is often a delay in find ing a student's residence. It is this delay rather than dormitory vacancies which necessitate requiring a stu dent to move into a dormi tory. Referring to the a r b i t rary administration of housing rules, Miss Snyder said some women live off-campus with out permission and because of delays in obtaining this in formation, these coeds may go unchecked. If a student is found to be living in unapproved housing "an effort to work with the student and help him meet the requirements established for housing is made," Brown commented. Brown added that in the immediate future, more strict regulations will be incorpor ated for male students while ' regulations "will be modified downward for coeds." Bob Samuelson noted that the University has contracted for bonds to build new high rise dormitories, and students "may be trapped into living in these dormitories" because the Regents are required by law to fulfill their financial obligations. Brown said that 4,200 stu dents now live in residence halls, and this number could double by 1970. Therefore, these dormitories must be built to accommodate t h e growing numbers of students who will want to live in these complexes. "Many aspects of student housing, both off-campus and on - campus, need examin ation," Brown added, "a n d existing rules and regulations are open to question and change." Senior Key Discussions Set Monday Orientations will be con ducted Dec. 5 for the three sorority houses which have received the locks required for participation in the sen ior key program, according to Carol Bischoff, senior key chairman. Seniors may check out their keys Tuesday, Dec. 6 providing the locks have been installed, Miss Bisch off said. The Alpha Chi Omega house has already had its locks installed. Other houses to have received locks are the Kappa Kappa Gamma and Chi Omega sororities. Instead of AWS board members conducting a mass orientation, board members will conduct them in small groups determined by the living units which have received their locks, Miss Bischof; explained.