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Further Discourse
On Compulsion.
ttm ro-rrl tn the declaration bv J. C. L. that tne
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1 editor should permit "anti-crusade material"
the editorial columns of the Nebraskan the editor
wishes to state that such contributions are welcome
and upon condition that they deal with the matter
at hand and not lapse into a tirade on personalities.
The more contributions offered on each ide of a
question, the better is the conclusion finally reached.
J. C. L. in his Student Pulse letter appearing
in the editorial columns today goes about refuting
the editorial "Compulsory Dnil Must Go' tnat ap
peared in the Tuesday edition of the paper. He
offers his rebuttal under the six heads under which
the editor classified his arguments of Tuesday.
Those points on which the editor bases his argu
meats aeaiivst compulsory military drill are:
1. Compulsory -military drill impedes progress
made in the direction of establishment of a peace
ororram because it involves military fatalism.
2. The necessity of conscientious objection
caused by the existence of compulsory drill is harm
ful in effect to both the department of military sci
ence and to the student body in general.
3. The course at present is a farce in seeral
ways.
4. Military instructors give the student the idea
that there is only one way in which he can express
his loyalty and patriotism. That way, they say. is
to pledge oneself to go to war if the country calls,
and in oeace times to help build a war machine.
5. The military department has been rather
presumptious in encroaching on the rights of other
departments of the university. Students actually
do put in more than the specified three hours time
a week in drill during the spring.
6. Too much display is permitted by the uni
versity in connection with military functions. .
The champion of compulsory military drill writ
ing in today's Student Pulse column declares that
the editor has failed to nick to a discussion of the
principles of compulsory military education. The
editor stuck to those as much as such attention was
merited and then proceeded to point out other rea
sons responsible for his determination to help rid
the campus of the compulsory element.
Please. J. C L, don't mistake illustrations for
points. Illustrations are used as a means of mak
ing a general point clear to the reader. Such an
Illustration la that pertaining to the honors convo
cation. How a man walks doesn't matter whit
one way or the other in this argument.
If you felt that the discussion was made up of
pot-shots why don't you bring up some new points
of your own on which an argument could be based ?
The editor ha stated bis real objections and if
seed be will enlarge upon the exposition of them.
There Is plenty of Incriminating and conclusive ma
terial at hand, and it will be used if nsKary.
J. C. L.'s arguments as to academic freedom are
at best feeble. Judging from the tone of his letUT,
we take it that be believes that academic freedom is
the Ideal of any university, or at least should be.
Before a student comes to the university be is en
titled to the right to choose his major course n
gineering, Blzad. dramatics, journalism, etc But he
la gtven no choice in regard to military drill, being
forced to submit to the training. Such a situation
meats that there is an entire lack of academic free
dom because of that one black mark on the univer
sity record. Academic frJ'm Im-olve guidance.
Dot force.
War baa always been inevitable declares our
contributor, and therefore, says be, we should teach
that it Is such, and prepare as men have been pre
paring for several milleruum. J. C L. puts his be
lief in preparedness in a bad light when be offers
the argument to above. It is n&tual to
assume that something causes war to be inevitable.
What can that reason be? Perhaps war is inevit
able because of this eter&al prepareln-s. Arms
cause fear, and fear causes bate. One needs or.Jy
to review histories to understand the inevitable In
effectivenens of preparedness.
In referring to argument number two of Tues
day's1 editorial J. C L. forgets that a man need tot
be sincere to have a certain mind-set developed in
him by an instructor. There is psychological proof
tat that statement A baby is not aifected mentally
by bis environment because be sits down determined
to let that effect take bold. One involuntarily de
relcps a mental outlook according to what set of
situations predominates In bis environment. There
fore, the editor's second argument is not inconsistent
wffjt the firs. Vr. J. C U. you should make surf
tft,t there are errors before you condescend to over
look them.
The editor repeats contention number two aa
folio i. If military drill were made optional in
atead of remaining compulsory as at present both
tha atudent body and military department would be
tetter eft than at present Conscientious- objection
la the only basis for exemption from drill now. .No
rinwance Is road for a stuoeni wita intelligent oo-
w-firma to Ukmr part In ar education, (The Ut-
U ... i. rr-xAm in all seriousnesa) A man
basing his objection on intelligence, and having no
conscientious objections, certainly is put in a bad
spot It also is a reflection on sensitive military
men when a young man proves that he has consci
entious objections to entering a field in which the
former have earned their living.
In objection nur'.tsr three, as J. C. L. terma it,
the editor nu'erred to military science being a farce
in several ways. The instructors, conscious of the
fact that students regard it in such a light, are lax
in their discipline in many Instances, particularly in
cases of examinations. If students took the course
because they wanted to, instructors could adopt a
more scholarly attitude, and develop a bit more faith
in their course. Although the. editor disagrees with
the theory of military training in any form on the
campus, he believes that if there is to be a gesture it
should be a serious and good one.
J. C. L.'s attitude concerning the influence of
college youth in the field of politics is objectionable.
It is untrue that college youths are any more hot
headed than their older contemporaries, and it is
true that young people of today are building them
selves a better foundation for useful living than have
past generations. "We are too young to influence
peace but we are not too young to insure peace by
preparing for war," declares the contributor. In the
state of Kansas the fact that politicians seriously
heed the student's word is being demonstrated. It is
also regrettable that he should bring up the Insur
ing peace by preparation' idea.
Far be it from the editor to be jealous of the
publicity meted out to an advanced student at hon
ors convocation. The point of importance in the
editorial is that a military bureaucracy threatens to
gain a hold in any educational Institution where it
receives the emphasis accorded it at Nebraska The
presentation of honors to the outstanding advanced
student occupies the position of primary importance
in the honors convocation, and it certainly isn't the
most important phase of the program. The influ
ence of overemphasis is an insidious one and must
be stopped as soon as possible.
STUDENT PULSE
Brief, concise contributions pertinent to matters f
Muclent life and the university lire m-elrrimwi by this
department, under the usual restrictions of sound news
paper practice, mhirh excludes all libelous matter and
personal attacks. Letters must be sipned. but names
srill be withheld from publication Is so desired.
to university men? We are able and better pre
pared physically to do the job of fighting if neces
sary than any other set of people In the country.
Our only way to show patriotism is to show it our
best way and we are best fitted to show it in actual
warfare if that becomes necessary. Our efforts for
peace should be unavailing but we are hardly able
to do much In that line. What statesman la going
to listen to a bunch of hot-headed college youth
who stage a riot after a hard fought football game
and the next day send in their efforts to further the
cause of peace? We are too young to Influence
peace but we are not too young to insure peace by
preparing for war.
Objection number five. This objection is to the
fact that three hours is devoted to the course a
week. In the opinion of many this course is worth
spending much more time than that which is ob
jected to. It is a matter of opinion. Of course you
think three hours too much and of course I think it
is not That is a natural result of our ways of
thinking on the whole problem and can hardly con
stitute an objection to the principle of compulsory
military training. That is an administrative matter
which is easily settled if it needs to be.
Objecton number six. I think here Mr. Editor
you show yourself in a very unfavorable light
Either you are jealous of the publicity or you let a
very small thing loom as a major objection. Be
cause one student among a huge number at the hon
ors convocation walks' in a manner you object very
strongly to, up to receive an award, you would abol
ish the whole course. Why should not the military
functions you mention be permitted military dis
play. If people object to such display let them stay
away from the military ball and the parades and
the band marches. Let members of the knot-hole
club in boy ecout uniforms do the ushering at foot
ball games, let the one course w(th the most enroll
ment of them all be shut up in a dingy Dasement
Stick to a discussion of the principles of compulsory
military education. There are undoubtedly a great
number of details that could be corrected, there are
such things in every big organization, but before the
whole training system is abolished let the campus
know your real objections to the fundamental prin
ciple under discussion and don't content yourself
with pot shots at minor issues unfavorable to the
system.
J. C. L.
Anstcer on
Military Drill.
TO THE EDITOR:
You publish in Tuesday's paper a long article on
the oft hashed over subject of Military Training in
this university. You say you are "determined to see
the establishment of optional military drill." I hope
in your crusade you will not be so narrow as to use
5'our influence in the paper to permit no publication
of anti-crusade material. After all we form opin
ions from hearing both sides of a question.
First let me say I am in no way connected with
the military department at this university nor have
I even been connected with them. I received my
military training in another way. This letter is not
propaganda from the military department
I would like to take up your objections to com
pulsory military training in the game order as you
present them. First the abstract proposition ot
cancelling academic freedom. It seems to me that
there exists no such thing as academic freedom ol
the type you Indicate. If we had academic freedom
then how does it happen we are required to take
certain courses for certain degrees? Why not lift
the ban on academic freedom and allow a student to
take voice and piano or borne economics and get an
engineering degree? Simply because thosa who are
wiser in experience than we are, those who have
studid and know more than many of us ever shall.
those whose minds are recognized as being excep
tional have determined that certain definite courses
are required for an engineering degree and we ac
cept their cours.-s because we know they know what
they are doing. To allow academic freedom of the
type you stem to wish would be to turn the school
over to a number of inexperienced young people. We
are not old enough to know what is the bett for us.
I believe academic freedom should be curtailed in
the choice of wnether to take military training or
not the same as it is in the choice of whether we
should take applied mechanics and get a law degree.
Objection number one. Military drill Impede
peace progress because it ouilos up military fatal
torn. You say that it is not fair to teach that war ii
inevitable. I ask is it fair not to teach the truth?
History and the experience of civilization have
taught us that war is inevitable Just as It is in
evitable that human beings isbouid fight between
themselves. It is not unfair to teach that we need
to be prepared for any emergency. It is not unfair
that we, teach the danger of war. We place fresh
men under men whose purpose is to teach the truth
cf physics, ethics, medicine and law: should we ab
hor the thought of teaching tbem the truth about
human nature and human relations on an interna
tional scale any more than we abhor the thought ot
teaching them the other truths? My dear editor
when you can prove that war is not Inevitable then
you. can dtcry the fart we expose freshmen to the
teaching that war is Inevitable. .
Objection number two. You here state that the
fact that the students are not sincere in their tak
ing of the course or their application for exemptions
is a reason for taking the compulsory feature from
drill. This Is directly Inconsistent with your objec
tion in the first paragraph. If the students are not
inere in their taking of the course then bow can
their minds be affected by the military fatalism
which you set forth aa an evil? On the other hand
if your first objection is sound and the course has
ruth a mind-set as you claim then your second ob
jection cannot stand at all Overlooking that error
in your argument I do not see that lack of sincerity
is aa objection to the fundamental purpose of the
course. Many students take courses just because
they need certain required hours for a degree and
not because they sincerely like the course. If we
only took courses that we sincerely wanted our ed
ucation would be lop-sided.
Objection number three. This seems to be a
continuation of the second objection. The course la
a farce because the students are insincere. I do not
claim the military department la perfect At the
outset I stated that I bad do connection with the
department Other course which studenta are not
sincere in taking become avrioui to them and If the
military instructors on tUa campus cannot do the
same for their classes It should be remedied, of
course, but that is hardly an objection to the theory
and purpose of military training.
REGIONAL PEACE
GROUPS FORMED
(Continued from Page II.
groups for and against war.
2. Local pre3s and study of true
facts (cause and cures of war). In
ternational Relations clubs.
3. Arouse individuals to need of
peace action and their part In the
machinery. YM and YW.
a. Exert efforts to eliminate
compulsory military training, and
commend conscientious objectors.
State
1. Steady contact with congress
men and senators. Local inter
ested persons.
2. Election of people with right
view points. (Questions and plat
forms. 3. Cooperation of interested
groups in state.
National
1. Support and encouragement
for the continued investigation of
munitions manufacture.
2. Support future measures on
"Arms Embargo" and the "Non
Aggression Pact," etc.
3. Education of the group in na
tional and international affairs.
4. Education of the group in
causes and cures of wars.
5. The support of all efforts for
the substitution and arbitration
and cooperation for military con
flict (Adherence to World Court
and joining of League of Nations.)
6. Opposition to any increase in
the building of fleet and equipment
of armies and favor the reduction
of armaments by agreement
7. Steady contact with congress
men and senators (political ac
tion.) 8. Opposition to the exclusion of
aliens on the grounds of race.
The regional program for peace
education and peace action in
volves: 1. Supporting of all efforts for
the substitution of arbitration and
cooperation formilitary conflict
This involves adherence to the
League of Nations and the World
Court
2. Opposing any Increase in the
building of fleets and equipping of
armies and favoring the reduction
of ar raiments by agreement
3. Supporting and encouraging
the further investigation of the
manufacturers of war materials.
4. Supporting of future meas
ures such ss Arms Embargo and
a Non-Aggression pact.
5. Exerting the efforts of the
organization to eliminate compul
sory military training from stat
educational institutions.
6. As a matter of principle op
posing the exclusion of aliens on
the grounds of race. (Particularly
we oppose the Japanese Exclusion
Act. I
The group of delegates at Man
hattan also went on record as con
scientious objectors to compulsory
mjlitary drill, particularly com
mending those at Kansas State
coIJee.
Peace Action committees in the
fctate of Kansas have already
gained a fair degree of success in
working thru political channels,
according to Paul Hoff, Kansas
state chairman. Organization is
ery exterjwve in that state.
ZETA TAU ALPHAS
WIN SCHOLARSHIP
CUP SECOND TIME
(Continued from Page 1.)
Pepplc, assisting artist sang "Only
My Love for Th'-e," "Love Ever
lasting" and The Arrow and the
Bong."
Scholarship ratings of the so
rorities were presented by the use
of a large five foot book with Bar
bara Jeary and Dorothy Chap low
acting as pages.
Mrs. Leon Larimer was general
hanquet chairman, assisted by Miss
Marsha!!, tickets; Mrs. Haecker,
program; Mrs. Chapman, menu;
Mrs. Morton, seating; Mrs. Bard
well, charts; Mrs. Keefer. caps;
and Mrs. Drain, decorations.
Mrs. V. A. McEacben, president
of he city Panbellenir, was toast
mUtress and presided during the
program. Mrs. E. A. Burnett, wife
of the chancellor, was first Intro
duced, followed by Miss Amanda
Heppner, dean of women. Commit
tee chairmen for the banquet were
then introduced to the guests by
Mrs. McEacben, and also Mrs.
Jwi, treasurer of the city Pan
bellenic. Reasons why one should attempt
to get as bi?h scholarship as possi
ble were outlined by Mrs. Frederick
Coleman, speaking on "Scholar
ship." "It takes brains, charm, per-
Objection number four. This again la an objec
tion to the military tnstrvclora and may be well
founded as far as I know atice I am not acquainted
wita u men. if !- wsxrucuon is going on ii is
false. There are more ways than that to show pa
triotism but bow many of those other ways are open
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sonality, and hardwork to suc
ceed," "she emphasized, "and the
lack of positions make it evident
that you should prepare yourself
now."
One should study for the t
ure it gives, she added, as ki
edee adds zest to living. I' 'i
helps to make leisure time useful,
she stated.
"There is no doubt that modern
sororities have helped to raise
scholarship." she concluded. She
ended her speech with a toast to
Nebraska girls.
OFFICIAL
BULLETIN
ernoon in Ellen Smith Hall. Mar
garet Ward is the leader.
Tap-Dancing Hobby Group.
All those who signed up for Big
lister tap-dancing hobby group
are to meet Thursday evening
1 rom 7 to 8 in Ellen Smith hall.
Upperclass women are also in
vited. Lois Rathburn is in charge.
Student Council.
Postponement of the regular
meeting of the Student council to
day until Wednesday, Oct. 24, was
announced Tuesday by Jack Fisch
er, president.
Free swimming hours for women
have been changed from 4 to 5
o'clock on Monday, Wednesday and
Friday to 4:30 to 5 o'clock ou those
days due to the increased demand
for instruction the forepart of the
hour. Other recreation hours are as
previously announced.
Corn Cobs.
Corn Cobs will meet Wednesday
evening at 7 in U. halL room 8.
Be prepared to check in ticketa
Money should be deposited imme
diately at Student Activities office
in Coliseum.
Staff Meetings.
Hours for the Y. W. C. A. stafi
meetings are as follows: Ag presi
dent 5 o'clock Monday, Helen
Lutz; Church relations, 5 Wednes
day, Mary E. Hendricks; Confer
ence, 5 Friday, Breta Peterson:
Finance, 4 Monday, Marjorie Shos
tak; International, 4 Monday, Lor
raine Hitchcock; Membership. 5
Wednesday, Arlene Bors; Nebras
ka in China, 4 Thursday, Laura
McAllister; Posters, 5 Wednesday,
Ruth Allen; Program and Office,
4 Tuesday, Jean Humphrey; Proj
ect 5 Thursday, Theodora Lohr
man; Publicity, Thursday, Dor
othy Ca there.
Lutheran Bible League.
The Lutheran Bible league will
meet for Bible study with Rev.
Erck from 7 to 8 Wednesday eve
ning in room 205 of the Temple
building.
Gamma Alpha Chi.
Gamma Alpha Chi will meet
Thursday night at 7:30 at Ellea
Smith halL All members are re
quired to attend.
A. 8. M. E.
A. S. M. E. will meet Wednesday
evening at 5 o'clock in Mechanical
Engineering, room 204.
Outing Club.
Outing Club will sponsor a roller
skating spree, Wednesday, OcL 17.
The group will start at 5:00 from
the Armory.
Y. W. C. A. Discussion Groups.
Y. W. C. A. freshman discusnion
times are Tuesday at 11 o'clock,
Lois Rathburn and Bash Perkins;
Tuesday at 1 Faith Arnold; Tues
day at 4, Anne Pickett; Thursday
at II. Violet Crowi and Elaine
Fonteln; Thursday at 1, Corinn
Claflin; Thursday at 5, Marjorie
Smith. Ag discussion groups are
on Thursday at 12:30 under Cladys
Klopp.
Nebrjaka-m-China Staff.
Ntbraska-ln-China Y. W. discus
sion group will meet at 3 this aft-
College World
More than 2,000 cubic yards of
Kaw river bottom soil were moved
to the University of Kansas cam
pus to insure the growth of foliage,
as the nil on the V. grounds was
found to be too sterile even for
hardy plants.
Th primary duty of organized
society is to enlarge the lives and
increase the standards of living of
all the people Herbert Hoover.
SPOLRTSINC
By
LLOYD HENDRICKS
Ending a ten day Journey tho
Kansas Aggie football team ar
rived home at Manhattan, Kas.,
Monday. Tbey began Immediate
preparations for their game with
Kansas this Saturday. During this
jaunt the K-Aggies had seen parts
of New York, Michigan, Penn
sylvania, Ohio, Illmois, Iowa, and
Kansas. That made quite an itiner
ary for the state gridders from the
cornflower section.
The K-Aggle game with Kansas
is known as the "football classic of
Kansas." It will be the thirty-second
annual meeting of the two
schools In the past thirty-three
years. The first game was in 1902
but the two teams did not play in
1910- in v
The game on Saturday will be
the major attraction of the an
nual Homecoming, celebration for
the Manhattan school. Parading
bands, a pep meeting Friday night,
registration of alumni and reunion
of friends Saturday forenoon, a
luncheon for alumni at noon Sat
urday, followed by the game, and
dances and parties are only a few
of the events which annually at
tract thousands.
Several hundred Kansas news
papermen will be guests of honor
at the game.
We do not see how the Kansas
Aggies can possibly lose. Kansas
university has own nothing in a
football team to date. But there is
alwavs the ancient rivalry between
the two schools to be considered.
Out of the thirty-two games play
ed, Kansas has won 20, Kansas
State has accountea loreiguj
three frames ended in tie
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scores.
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