TWO TIIE DAILY NEBRASKAN WEDNESDAY, MARCH 23, 1932 The Daily Nebraskan Station A, Lincoln, Nabraaka OFFICIAL STUDENT PUBLICATION UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA Publlihed Tuaiday, Wadnaaday, Thursday, Friday and - Sunday morninoa during the acadamlo yaar. THIRTY-FIRST YEAR ' Entarad aa aacond-clata mattar at tha naatofflca Lincoln. Nebraaka. undar act of conaraaa, March . 1879, and at apeclal rata of poataga provldad for In aaction 1103, act of Octobar 3, 1917, authorlted January 80, 1122. Undar direction of tha studant publication Board - SUBSCRIPTION RATE M yar Slngla Copy S canta I1.H a aamaatar $2 a year mallad 11.75 aamaatar mallad Editorial Oftlca Unlvaralty Hall 4. Bualneaa Off lea Unlvaralty Hall 4A. Talephonee Dayi B-68911 Nlghtt B-MM. B-333S (Journal) . Ask far Nabraakan adltar. 4EMBERP Tliia paper la rarranntW for nrl advertising hf tha Ntbnuka fttm Asaoeiatioa. EDITORIAL STAFF Arthur Wolf Edltor.ln-chlaf MANAQINQ EDITORS Howard Allaway Jack Erlckaon NEWS EDITORS Phinip Brownall Ollvar Da Wolf Laurenca Hall...., Virginia Pollard Joa Millar .................. . Sporta Editor cveiyn oimpaon...., Asaoclata Editor Ruth Schlll Wtmtn'i Editor Katnarina Howard Soclaty Editor CONTRIBUTING EDITORS. Gerald Bards Oaorga Dunn Don Larlmar Edwin Faulkner Boyd Krawaon William Holmea ueorge nouns Art Koialka BUSINESS STAFF Jack Thompaon Bualnaea Manager ASSISTANT BUSINESS MANAGERS Norman Qallehar Frank Muagrava Hernara jenninge Day Dreams. .Actual work on the organization of Barb groups will begin soon according to the realign ment committee which holds in its hands the political future of the campus. The plan ad vanced by the committee provides that every house containing over five men will be con tacted and asked to elect a representative who will attend a general meeting looking toward the organization of the Barb groups. After this organization is completed the group will join with the weaker faction in an attempt to obtain a balance on the two sides of the fence. There is one question in the minds of the cam pus politicians: will it work! The entire success of the project depends upon the willingness of the Barbs to cooperate. I'pon them depends the future of the campus. Will they take hold and help? "Will they be interested enough in their school to work for it Do they believe in the activity side of col lope? It is upon the shoulders of the unorgan zi'd groups that the burden lies. There is no ioubt but that a reorganization must take ptace. That fact was generally agreed upon in the all-activities meeting held by the Innocents stjeioty a few weeks ago. And then the ques tion arose of how that was to be done. A general realignment of present factions was suggested. Abolition of all political af filiations was suggested. Organization of the Barbs was suggested. Of the three plans the most feasible seems to have been the organiza-j tipn the Barbs. Abolition of political factions is the ultimate solution of the whole situation. of course ,but the committee did not deem it best at this time. It must be recognized that always there will be alignments and cliques. The human creature naturally seeks coopera tion. If this is to be it is much better to have these cliques operating above board than in an underhand fashion. It is much more conducive to honest elections to have the factions recog nized by and responsible to the Student Coun cil than to have those groups operating as sub rosa. backers of favorite sons of one clique or another. Choosing p new sides will not aid the situa tion either. That is apparent. In the first place it would be difficult to break the exist ing ties which hold the present affiliates to gether. In the second place shifts would un doubtedly occur which would eventually bring the same state of affairs back again. The committee recognized that as long as there two groups so widely separated on the campus m the Greeks and the non-Greeks it is between these two that the best political riv alry can take place. Each possesses a differ ent set of ideals and each is conscious of a dif ferent outlook upon life. Widely varying in their desires and needs in undergraduate life, .hese two sections of the students would make n ideal party system on the University of Ne braska campus. " With this in view the commission appointed rr the Student Council took a step toward that end. by an attempt to organize the Jiarbs into an efficient enough organization to effectively aid the Yellow Jacket faction in the spring elections. This ,5f the Barbs are willing to cooperate, will result in at least a few of the non-Greek candidates being placed in responsi ble offices. With this for a starter it is not beyond the realm of reason to suppose that the Barbs will gain strength and eventually with draw from the fraternity group to form a fac tion of power of their own. This in turn will cause the fraternity groups to drop all of their alignments, as they did four years ago, and will cause the race to become Barb versus Greek, as it should be. This may be a modernistic painting which is ntirely symbolical. It may be a beautiful dream. It may even be true. It is desirable md it is possible. Upon one thiDg it depends and upon that one thing only. If the Barbs will cooperate with the committee the dream nay not be far from realization. If they do jot then the situation will have to remain a t is. house he would offer to draw one for the brothers. His offer was generally accepted and he gained admittance to the house. He would draw a rather humorous caricature, and then for four-bits a picture would offer to depict the others. He would generally walk out of any house with ten or twelve dollars in his pocket. The other of these, if you will excuse the term "college racketeers" generally have something to sell. Ties, suits, tie-pressers, magazines, jewelry or what have you. Some are legitimate business men, other arc frauds. Both types see to it that they make a very handsome profit. The point of the whole mat ter is this. It is difficult to distinguish be tween the legitimate salesman and the fraud. Furthermore, even though you can distinguish between the two. it is only fair to the local business man that you spend your money wit?, him. He is the one that aids in the support of your college activities. Firms with offices in out-state towns have no other interest than to remove the money as swiftly and ns efficiently as possible. J he policy of patronizing local merchants should be a good one for everyone to follow. Dr. Millikan Says Man lias Found Living Cell More Complez Than Atom Where? Oh, Where? Somewhere on this broad citinpus is a com mittee. Some day that committee is supposed to meet. Sometime the committee will report. Many, manv moons ago a committee was constituted to look into the offiees of class presidents to see if they might not be imbued with something worth while. The committee even went so far as to set. a date for a meeting. So far as can be ascertained the meeting was not held. The proposition still hangs fire. Now if ever has come a time 1o invest those offices with some functions which will make them something more than traditional. It is generallv recognized that Nebraska has all too few traditions but when those traditions degen erate into passivity and students no longer have an interest in them it is tune to do away lit with them. The presidents of the four classes ! are not necessary portions of campus life. They l do nothing of value. There is no justification of them. This has been recognized and the committee i A was to seeK. out some worm wnne projects 10 which the presidents could bend their efforts. That committee has never functioned. It is time for the committee to inot. May we re quest that the committee meet in the very near fuure or shall another committee be appointed to look for the first committee? Class presidents are unnecessary as they are now constituted and little is accomplished by their election. They are nothing but political plums to be battled for by the strongest fra ternities. It is time for them to be given something to do or they must go the avay of the minor class officers. What about it, committee? Author of 'Applied X-Rays' And Divisional Editor 0? Radiology. LANTERN SLIDES SHOWN Dr. Georire Clark, of the Unl versity of Illinois, addressed the members of the Nebraska section of the American Chemical society on "The Service or tne A-ray in Chemist rv and Industry," in the chemistry building Tuesday eve' nlng. Dr. Clark is divisional editor of Radiolorv and author of "Ap plied X-rays." He is considered an outstanding authority in the field of radioloev and is largely re sponsible for the development of what has been termed the "new research tool" of the chemist About fifty attended the meeting, The lecture was illustrated with lantern slides depicting the forma' tion of various substances as seen under the X-rav. By the use of these Mides he pointed out the value of the X-ray in the field of medicine, in the field of industry to detect flaws in castings and weldinifs. in the field of art to de tect fraudulent paintings, and in Ihe field of chemistry. Dr. Clark showed the composi tion of wool, cotton, rubber silk, and gutta percha as seen by the X-ray. In conclusion a short film showing the work carried on in the Illinois laboratory under the direc tion of Dr. Clark was shown. The film also showed the various ma chines, tubes and instruments used bv the students in this laboratory, A short open forum was held at the conclusion of Dr. Clark's ad dress in which all those interested took part TREND OF THE TIMES bv GERALD BARDO the Boners by Those Who Pulled Them. 1. The Daily Nebraskan Tuesday morning in commenting editorially on the centemal com memoration of the death of Goethe, greatest German writer, attributed to him authorship of the opera Faust. Goethe, who was born m 1749, wrote the drama Faust which appeared in installments from 1790 to shortly afler his death in 1832. The opera Faust was written by the French composer Gounad (1 SI 8-93) and was produced in 18n9. 2. The Daily Nebraskan Tuesday morning announced that Dr. Herbert Kraus, German in ternational lawyer, would speak in the Temple at 11 o'clock yesterdav. The Kraus convoca tion was not yesterday, but has been set for next Tuesday. The Nebraskan regrets the occurrence of these in accuracies and offers no excuse It re grets that it published without complete investigation. College Editors Say Buy at Home. - There is a standard joke among business men, legitimate and not so legitimate, that col lege boys will buy anything. Solicitors, maga zine salesmen, clothing peddlers annually make the rounds of colleges and swiftly and pain lessly relieve the unsuspecting collegians of their money. Every year some unrecognized genius thinks of a new gag to pull on the stu dents and his ingenuity if rewarded a thousand-fold. '. For instance one gentlemen this year had an Exceedingly clever racket. He was a mediocre artoonist,"biit in Ihe eyes of the collegians h was second John Held, jr. He specialized in caricatures. Upon arriving at a fraternity After College, What? What college student has not at some lime worried about his future One of the saddest things in college is to reach your junior, or sometimes your senior, year and suddenly realize that the work for which you are study in gis not entirely suited to making a living, particularly in the days immediately following graduation. A California professor recently recommended the teaching of short courses especially designed to equip the graduate to make a living iu the days just after leaving college. The demand for college men is greater today than ever before, but even no jobs are not usually available the day afler graduation. Openings for college trained men are some thing that must be striven for i fa position is to be obtained. The suggestion of the California man. if car ried out. would provide the large yearly crop of new grads with a means to earn a living while they are locating the position for which they have trained. This at first seems a waste of time but since times are so hard and so few jobs are available some plan such as this would be valuable. The main trouble with so many trained col lege men today is that they eipect too much in the way of progress immediately after receiv ing their diplomas. When undergraduates realize that the hard work only begins after graduation and settle themselves to work of any kind rather than searching the field of their training, they will solve their own eco nomic problem to a large extent. The undergraduates would do well to con sider this question periously, and give some thought to the problem ,and fortunate is the man who has it already solved. With nearly every field of human activity overcrowded and plenty of well trained and experienced men going begging, the college man should study the situation and try to find a future career that holds some hope of ad vancement. This can best be done if the student can lo cate a line of endeavor in which the supply of workers does not exceed the demand. This is a very hard thing to do with law school-,, en gineering schools, and art schools turning out graduates faster than the demand is being created. New Mexico Lobo. FRONT page story of Kansas City Star (Sunday) by VarrM Wallcnsteui showing ue United States as a "strange land of crime" in the eyes of England is not the first picture ot tne wir opean attitude since the Lindbergh kidnaping. The correspondent says the be lief is growing that the United States is not a safe place to live nd that this "country is in the crip of a hideous cancer-like rrnwth." European beliefs may not all be correct. Newspapers over there may maroifv our crimes till a de- plorable picture results. Yet there must be some cause for Europe's attitude. In the news coming to America from Europe, that of gov ernmental developments and eco nomic progress predominates. On the other hand our governmental and economic undertakings arouse little of the interest that crime news secures. And it is net that the European public demands the sensational type of news. Europe is watching a" development in a young nation that it considers grave. Europe is therefore interested. England, who has developed Scotland Yard, where 'graft in high places is sternly put down," and where criminal gangs do not flourish, has a foundation for its critical alti tude. ICE-PRESIDENT Charles Cur tis will probably have some opposition fo r re-nomination. No one seems to have anything especially against him, but repub lican wets besides wanting a wet vice-president pay an easterner is needed to balance Mr. Hoover, a westerner. Their argument, that a younger man for second place is needed to carry the heavy load an campaign speaking, is weak. And about Mr. Hoover being a westerner if we neighbor, "Alfalfa is right here in Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma. Iowa. etc. That's about the way a lot of us feel the West is here between the Mississippi river and the Rocky mountains. We don't claim Mr. Hoover. We don't think of the Pacific coast states in speaking of the West. Then there are some who say Mr. Hoover isn't from any part of the United States because he has hardly been in the country enough to establish a residence. But that is aside. The point is that wet's want a wet vice-presioent. IJNITED STATES has a popula tion of approximately 120 mil liens. The estimate of Germany's population is 62 million. In our lai-t presidential battle in 1928, we polleo 30,678,414 votes. In Ger many's last election there were 27.680.377 votes. Suffrage in the United States and Germany is the same. Germany's was a spectacular, in tense election. Germany always votes on Sunday or on a holiday. But these two reasons alone can not account for the fact that Ger many with half our population polled 780,963 more votes than we last did in a sational election. This is more or less characteristic of all European nations. Voting is not considered a privilege but a re sponsibility. If such a reform aa was recently proposed in France were suggested in United States we would have a fit. Some Frenchmen wanted to make voting obligatory. But they wanted woman suffrage and some other things along with it and the bill didn't pass the Chamber of Deputies. Getting back to Amer icaour type of citizens who won't take the trouble to vote, but still like to criticize the government are far too numerous. NEW YORK. Dr. Robert An drews Millikan, noted ecientist, dl rector of the Norman Bridge labo ratory of physics at the California Institute of Technology in Pasa' dena and winner of the Nobel prize in physics, claims there ia no quarrel between religion and sci ence, said Frazler Hunt, corre spondent and author, in a blo graphical story of Dr. Millikan, given over the radio recently, Hunt quoted Dr. Millikan as say ing: "Man has turned bia micro scope upon the living cell and found it even more complex than the atom, with many parts, each performing its function necessary to the life of the whole; and again he has turned his great tele scope upon the spiral nebulae a million light years away and there also round system . and order, After all this, ia there anyone who still talks about the materialism of science Rather does the scientist join with the psalmist of thousands of years ago in reverently proclaim' ing 'the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament anew eth His handiwork.' The God of science is the spirit of rational order and of order development, the integrating factor in the world of atoms, and of ether, and of ideas, and of duties, and of in telligence. Materialism is surely not a characteristic of modern sci ence. Frazier Hunt's Story, In Full, Follows. Tonight, let's turn the clock back. It is the evenln gof De cember 15, 1895 almost thirty seven years ago. We are in a leo ture room of the Physical Society in Berlin. Learned scientists are gathered to see for the first time the working of a mysterious ma chine a machine of vacuum tubes and electric currents regarding which, it is whispered. Professor Roentgen, its discoverer, has high hopes. In the eager audience is a twen ty-seven year old American stu dent a post-graduate student of physics at the University of Ber lin. His name is Robert Andrews Millikan and he is one of the youngest men in this distinguished group of scientists. For two years he has been absorbed by the iasci nating and endless search for the eternal truths for unknown truths of science. It is a search that is the definite duty of pure science to carry on. But this young man is a little bewildered he isn't sure just what course to lay in these uncharted scientific seas of the un known. The X-ray Gixen World. And now, the lecturer, Professor Roentgen, is introduced to the au dience. He points to a black hori zontal box, cone shaped and about a foot and a naif long. He cans k a "fluoroscope." The larger end is covered with a sheet of paper sub- little searcher for truth and light that there ia in the world. What courage! what determination what ceaseless emergy and what purpose, carried him thru these long years of endless experiments often years of failure to the point where he could perform such scientific miracles as he isolating and weighing of this Infinitesimal electron this tiny speck of power mac is a part ot ail lite and me universe ! Son of Real Pioneer. coated with a fluorescent stance. A few inches to front of this large covered end is a vacuum tube. He turns on the current. Then be puts his hand between the vacuum tu'fe and box and mira cle of miracics. When his audience one by one look thru the smaller end of the box, they can see the bones of the hand, outlined aa clearly and distinctly as if drawn by pen on paper. It is magic! Thus it was that tne great A-ray discovery was announced to tne world. It was one or the supreme moments in the whole history of man's search for knowledge. Here at this moment and in this lecture room, a great gift from the Gods was given to suffering man kind. To this discovery to this child of pure science millions of stricken people owe lite useir. And to, the eyes or tnese men oi science it was as if they were wit nessing the birth of a great new world of inspiration and beauty. Profoundly impressed was this twenty-seven year old American scientist. At once the Roentgen I . . .. i nr. M listen to our X-ray gave airecuons io ms me w , Bill," the west science. He couia now ei nis com pass on an exact; course in me un-1 known and unchartered sea of pure science. He would take up the research magnificent he would search out the ultimate structure of the universe he would make an Mnloration into the unknown an All this is a story of pioneering ana or a pioneering tradition, Robert Millikan was the son of real American pioneer. In 1834, his grandfather moved by covered wagon from Massachusetts to the Western Reserve in Ohio and later in 1838 to the western part of II linois county. It was in 1834 that his father was born and when four years old was taken to the Rock River country near Morrison, 111, In this home there was even then a yearning for knowledge and truth, and this pioneer boy, -Rob ert Millikan's father, was sent to Oberlln college, where he studied for the ministry. And here he met the remarkabl woman who a few years later was to be the mother of this future great scientist, Rob ert Millikan. When Robert was five, his father left his Congregational pastorate at Morrison, 111., and moved to tne little town of Ma quokita, Ia., some forty miles northwest of Davenport. When he was eighteen young Robert Mil likan followed in his father's foot steps; he was sent to Oberlin col lege where he earned most of his college expenses as a gymnastic instructor. He specialized in Greek and mathematics. However, when be graduated and wanted to teach, there was no vacancy at Oberlin in either of these departments, but there was an instructorship in physics. With more than a little trepidation, young Robert Millikan accepted this place as a teacher in physics; and then, by sheer force of contact, he became absorbed in the subject. Prof. Pupin and Dr. Michelson Now, at Columbia University in the City of New York was a great and inspiring professor, Michael P u p I n an extraordinary emi grant-inventor, born in Hungary, who was doing thrilling things in physics. So deep waa young Rob ert Mii.likan's interest in physics that be decided to go to Columbia and work under Prof. Pupin. Here ha felt, for the first time, the call of pure science. This gentle and learned Michael Pupin quickly per ceived the fine mind and high am bition of this student of his, and opened for him the beckoning vista oi a scientific lire, and tne divine appeal of what be so beautifully called "tne search for the eternal truth. One summer Robert Millikan worked with the great Dr. Michel son in his laboratories in Chicago and again, he was taken to the top or tne mountain of pure science and shown the beautiful and alluring world of the unknown that lay below. Returning to Col umbia, this brilliant student, the following spring, was urged by Prof. Pupin to continue bis scienti fic studies in Germany. "But I haven t the money to go. Millikan told him. Maybe you can borrow the money," Pupin answered. "But I have no collateral and how can a poor fellow like me bor row without collateral?" The grand old man of science smiled: "Your face is the best col lateral in the world. I'll lend you the necessary money myself." And he did; and Millikan hurried off to Berlin. Then came that day, six months later, when he witnessed the reve lation of the X-ray and his voy age through science was charted forever. Soon a cable called him to the University of Chicago, and for years, in this great and free uni versity, be plodded ahead on the rough and discouraging scientific road. Here it was that he com pleted certain studies that resulted after eighteen years of tireless labor in the isolation and weigh ing of the negative electron that When a student at Colorado col lege was caught drinking, he was sentenced to attend Sunday school for three years. Sixty former college athletic heroes are now presidents of col leges and universities in the United States, according to the Washing ton University Student Life. Four of the fiv fraternities at Oglethorpe unlvemf'y will be forced to relinquish their charters unless their scholastic averages come up to the general average of the whole college for this semester. exploration that in the course of unbelievable part of the unbeliev aoie atom wnicn iinany, aiong wun his work on the experimental veri fication of Einstein s photo electric time would lead him to study the force which produced this myste rious X-rav. and. in the end, to search for the smallest speck of power the invisible granules that make the universe. That day in Berlin was the turning point in his life. For almost 2 decides he has con tinued the great research for the ultimate truth of the world and of its structure: and nine years ago he was awarded the Nobel prize in physics for his masterful work in isolating the negative electron and determining its electrical cnarge. Today, his search goes on the search for what is probably the ul timate speck the ultimate ganale of the universe. Weighing the Electron. Now. I certainly am not much of a scientist, but I have been al ternately amazed and amused by the "eyesight" of this man. Dr. Robert Millikan. You know, If we see the point of a pin, we think we are doing pretty well. Well. Dr. Millikan has the atom, that is one millionth the diameter of a pin bead taken this atom apart and found the small nucleus that is one-ten-tbousandth the diameter of this parent aim. And then be has looked inside that nucleus and counted in uranium exactly 238 positives and 146 negatives Whee! let's get that straight; he has been able to isolate and to measure a fraction of an invisible granule that, in turn, is one-ten-thousandth the size of an atom, which in turn, is one-millionth the size of a pin head! Well. I think I am too much of a pin bead about science to' get any deeper into this scientific matter. But to me, t be lif of a pure sci entist like Dr. Robert Millikan should be an inspiration to every Kidnaped Queen Is Returned Too Late F or Her Coronation The kidnaping of Miss Mary Butterfield of Kansas City, who was to have been crowned queen of the engineers' St. Pat's ball at the University of Missouri Saturday night, has turned out most suc cessfully for the perpetrators so far. Miss Butterfield was returned in time to be introduced at the ball, having spent the evening playing bridge, although too late for tha coronation ceremonies. The investigation is still beinir carried on, according to Dr. Albert C Heckel, dean of men, though the identities of the kidnapers aro still unknown. Students of the collece of law. as well as certain members of tho college of engineering have been blamed, and it is thought by some to be a continuation of the feud between the lawyers and the engi neers. Members of both factions denied participation, however, and the abduction remains a mystery. equation, brought him the ultimate reward in science the Nobel prize. In 1921 he was made director of the Norman Bridge laboratory of physics st the California Insti tute of Technology and now he voyaged deeper and deeper into the unknown res-ions Hearchinc eternally for that mysterious thing "the Cosmic Ray." On the ever lasting scroll of history he has writ his name high in the lists of the great men of pure science and research. Religion and Science. Yet somehow the man Millikan means more to me than Millikan, the scientist. It is his religious approach to science that has mada the greatest appeal to me. There is no quarrel, he claims, between religion and science. Pure science the eternal search for truth is as beautiful and as mysterious aa the teachings of any organized church o rsect. The great instruments of prog ress for maukind sre research." he says, "the discovery of new knowl edge and education, the passing on of the store of accumulated wis dom to our followers. It is our knowledge alone that makes us men instead of lizards." "Man," he says, "has turned his microscope upon the living cell and found it even more complex than the atom, with many parts, each performing its function neces sary to the life of the whole: and again he has turned his great tele scopes upon the spiral nebulae a million light years away and there also found system and order After all this, is there any one who still talks about the materialism of cience?' Dr. Millikan asks. Rather docs the scientist join in revently proclaiming 'the Heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth His handi work.' The God of science is the spirit of rational order and of orderly development, the integra ting factor in the world of atoms, and of ether, and of ideas, and of duties, and of intelligence. Mater ialism is surely not a characteris tic of modern science." The eternal search for truth goes on and today this man of sci ence this clear-eyed, white-haired. distinguished looking sixty-three ear old exprorer of the unknown. has his ear attuned to the music the spheres and his eyes focused for the tiniest invisible granule of nature of the universe Truly, it is the research mag nificent! Fishnet stockings are causing an outbreak of coed cribbing, accord ing to Professor Brandish of Northwestern. It's easy, you see, for instructors to overlook the hid den slips of paper beneath the stockings. 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