T 'APRIL 12, 1007 The Commoner. 5 inr jkiff. THE HARRIMAN-ROOSEVELT CLASH The correspondence and the story of the sensa tion is told by the Associated Press In this way: TUB IIARRIMAN LETTER New York, April 2. A sensation was created here today by the publication of a letter written in December, .1005, and addressed to Mr. Sidney Webster of New York and signed "E. H. Ha'rri man." Following 4s the letter: "Mr." Sidney Webster, No. 5 East .Seventeenth Street, New York. Dear Sir: I am glad -to see that you are in town and hope soon to have an opportunity of talking matters over with you. X had printed copies of The testimony sent you, in hopes that you would, after reading them, give me some idea of where I stand, for I confess that I feel somewhat at sea In the whole insurance matter. The trouble originated in allowing my self to be drawn into othor people's affairs, and partly from a desire to help them at their request I seem to be like the fellow who got in beftveen the man and his wife in their quarrel. "As to my political instincts, to which you re fer In your letter of December 13, I am quite sure I have none, and my being made at all prominent in the political situation is entirely due to Presi dent Roosevelt and because of my taking an active part in the autumn of 1904, at his request, and his taking advantage of conditions then created to further his -own interests. If it had been a pre meditated plot It could not have been better started or carried out. "About a week before the election In the au tumn of 1004, when it looked certain that the state ticket would go democratic and was doubtful as to Roosevelt himself, he, the president, sent me a request to go to Washington to confer upon the political conditions In New York state. I com plied, and ho told me he understood the campaign could not be successfully carried on without suifl clent money, and asked if I would help them in raising the Accessary funds as the national com mittee, under control of Chairman Cortelyou, had utterly failed of obtaining them, and there was a large-amount due from them to thof-New York state committee. "I explained to him that I understood the diffi culty here was mainly caused by the up-state lead ers being unwilling to support Depew for re-election as United States senator; that if he, Depew, could be taken care of in some other way I thought matters could be adjusted and the different cdn tending elements in the party brought into alliance again. We talked over what could be done for Depew, and finally he agreed, If found necessary, he would appoint him as ambassador to Paris. "With full belief that he, the president, would keep tills agreement, I came back to New York, sent for Treasurer Bliss, who told me that I was their last hope, and that they had exhausted every other resource. , In his presence I called up an in timate friend of Senator Depew, told him that it was necessary, in order to cany New York state, that $200,000 should be raised at once, and if he would help I would subscribe $50,000. After a few words over the telephone the gentleman said he would let me know, which he did, probably in three or four hours, with the result that the whole amount, including my subscription, had been raised. - "The checks were given to Treasurer ' Bliss, who took them to Chairman Cortelyou. If there were any among them of life insurance companies, or-any other like organizations, of course Cortelyou must have informed the president. I do not know who the subscribers were other than the friend of Depew, who was an individual. This amount enabled the New York state committee to continue its work, with the result that at least 50,000 votes were turned In the city of New York alone, mak ing a difference of 100,000 votes in the general "There are between 2,200 and 2,300 districts in. Greater New York and in a campaign such as that the expenditure of, say $50 in each district for campaign purposes, not including the watchers on election day, would take more than $100,000. "Some time In December, 1904, on my way from Virginia to New York, I stopped and had a short talk "with the president He told me then, that he did not think it necessary to appoint De pew as ambassador to Paris, as agreed; In fact favored him for the senate. I had not expected that he was the one to say as to what would be necessary, but he arrogated that to himself, and I, of course, could say nothing further. After that I used what influence I could to have Depew re turned to the senate, as I considered there had been tax implied obligation which should be lived up to. "Tills Is the way I was brought to (he surface In the political matters, as I had never before taken any active part and had only done what I could as any private citizen might, so you see I was brought forward by Roosevelt In an attempt to help him, at his request, the same as I was In the insurance inatter'Tjy Hyde and Ryan by their request for my help; and in the case of Ryan I probably would have dropped the matter after our first interview had it not been for my desire to save Belmont from taking a position for which he could have been criticised by the public press, as ho was the one Ryan desired me to influence from opposing Morton for election as chairman of the Equitable board, and Belmont afterward thanked me for taking his part, as, if "he had voted against Morton in view of his local traction contentions with Mr. Ryan, it would have been misconstrued. "Ryan's success In all his manipulations, trac tion deals, tobacco combination, manipulation of the State Trust company Into the Morton Trust company, the Shoe and Leather bnnk Into the Bank of Commerce thus covering up his tracks has been done by the adroit mind of Ellhu Root, and the present situation has been brought about by a combination of circumstances which has brought together the Ryan, Root, Roosevelt ele ment. "Where do I stand? Yours sincerely, "E. H. HARRIMAN." Sidney Webster is a lawyer and a writer on political subjects. His wife is a sister of Stuy vesant Fish, who lost the presidency of the Illi nois Central railroad a few months ago after an tagonizing Mr. Harriman. Mil. ROOSEVELT'S RESPONSE Following is an Associated Press dispatch: Washington, April 2. President Roosqvelt to day emphatically denied the statements contained in a letter published tills morning purporting to have been written by E. H. Harriman to Sidney Webster of New York, in the latter part of Decern-, her, 1905. In Mr. narrlman's letter the statement is made that at the request of President Roose velt, he, Harriman, assisted. In raising a fiind of $250,000 to be used in carrying New York for the republican party in the election of 1904. This statement the president characterizes as "a de liberate and willful untruth by right It should be characterized by an even shorter and more ugly word. I never requested Mr. Harriman to raise a dollar for the presidential campaign of 1904." The president's denial was contained in a brief statement, and copies of letters written to Repre sentative Sherman of New York. The letters are dated October 8 and October 12, 1900, respectively. The president, after furnishing the letters to the press, dictated the following statement: "After writing these letters to Congressman Sherman the president was assured that Mr. Har riman had not made the statements which Mr. Sherman credited him with making. Inasmuch as the same statements appear in the major part of the letter of Mr. Harriman, now published, the president deems it proper that the letters he sent Congressman Sherman last October shall now themselves be made public." In the first letter reference Is made to a con versation between Mr. Harriman and Mr. Sher man, which was repeated to the president, in which Mr. Harriman is said to have given as a reason for his personal dislike of the president, partly the latter's determination to have the railroads su pervised and partly the alleged facts that after promising Mr. Harriman to appoint Senator De pew ambassador to France, he, the president, failed to do it. It appears from the conversation repeated to the president that Mr. Sherman had gone to Mr. Harriman. to ask him for a .contribu tion for the campaign. The president says that Harriman also urged, him to promise to make Mr. Depew ambassador because this would help Gov ernor Odell by pleasing certain big financial In terests. The president said he informed Mr. Har riman that he did not believe It would be possible to appoint Mr. Depew and furthermore expressed his surprise at his (Harrlman's) saying that the men representing the big financial interests of New York wished the appointment made, Inasmuch as a number of them had written asking that the place be given to Mr. Hyde. Mr. Harriman, on learning Mr. Hyde was a candidate, hastily said that; he did not wish to be understood as antag onizing him. The president, it appears, was unwilling to ap point either Depew or Hyde as ambassador, and also left unchanged his recommendations to con gress concerning the Interstate commerce law, not withstanding suggestions and criticisms, by Mr. Harriman of (lie president's course in that regard as expressed In certain letters which Mr. Harri man wrote to the president "So much for what Mr. Harriman said about mo personally," says the president In concluding his first letter to Mr. Sherman. For more import ant the president regards the additional remarks which Mr. Sherman said Mr. Harriman made to him when he asked him if ho thought it was wMl to see Ilearstlsm and the like" triumphant over the republican party. "You," says the president, "inform me that ho told you that he did not care In (lie least because those people were crooks and he could buy them " and other similar remarks. This, the president says, was doubtless partly In 'boastful cynicism and partly In a burst of bad temper, but It showed' in tiie president's opinion, a cynicism and deep seated corruption which he denounces In strouir words. b The second letter to Mr. Sherman simply con tains an addenda to the first. The text of the first letter to Mr. Sherman Is as follows: "October S, 190G. My Dear Sherman: Since you left tills morning I succeeded in getting hold of the letters to which I referred and I send you a copy of Governor Odell's letter to me of Decem- ,i , "$BJ am ent,rc,y willing that you should show tills letter to Mr. E. H. Harriman, I shall begin by repeating what you told me he said to you on the occasion last week when you went to ask him for a contribution to the campaign. You informed mo that he then expressed great dissatisfaction with me, and said In effect, that so long as I was at the head of the republican party or as it was dominated by the policies which I advocate and represent, he would not support it, and was quite Indifferent whether Hearst beat Hughes or not, whether the democrats carried congress or not He gave as a reason for his personal dislike of me partly my determination to have the railroads su pervised, and partly Uie alleged fact that after promising him to appoint Depew ambassador to France I failed to do it, and I understand you to say that he alleged that I made this promise at' a time when he had come down to see me in Wash ington, when I requested him to raise two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for tiie republican pres idential campaign which was then on. J'Any such statement is a deliberate and will ful untruth by rights it should be characterized by an even shorter and more ugly word. I never requested Mr. narriman to raise a dollar for the presidential campaign of 1901. On the contrary our communications as regards the campaign re lated exclusively to the fight being made against Mr. Higglns for governor of New York, Mr. Har riman being immensely interested in the success of Mr. niggins because he regarded the attack on Iliggins as being really an attack on him, Mr. Harriman, and on his friend, Governor Odell, and he was concerned only in getting me to tell Mr. Cortelyou to aid Mr. niggins so far as he could, which I gladly did. He also (I think more than once) urged me to promise to make Sen ator Depew ambassador to France, giving me in detail the reasons why this would help Governor 'Odell, by pleasing certain big financial interests. I Informed him that I did not believe It would bo possible for me to appoint Mr. Depew, and furth ermore expressed my surprise, at his saying that the men representing the big financial interests of New York wished that appointment made, inas much as a number of them had written to me ask ing that the same place be given to Mr. Hyde, and that, as a matter of fact, while I was not pre pared to announce any decision, I doubted whether I could appoint either Mr. Depew or Mr. Hyde to the place. As soon as Mr. Harriman heard that Mr. Hyde was a candidate and had asked the names of his backers he hastily said that he did not wish to be understood as antagonizing Mr. Hyde, and would be quite willing to support him; and though I understood that he still preferred Mr. Depew, he left me strongly under the Impres sion that he would be almost as well satisfied with Mr. Hyde and was much discontented at my Informing him so positively, not once, but repeat edly, that I did not think I should be able to ap point either." "His and my letters now before me of the fall of 1904 run as follows: "On his return from spending the summer In Europe on September 20, he wrote me stating that If I thought It desirable he would come to see mo at any time, either then or later die had been, as you remember, a delegate to the republican na tional convention, having voted for my nomina